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A man gets sealed inside a rusted coffin of steel and lowered into an ocean of human blood. The radio tells him it’s a mission, but every new instruction feels like another layer of the sentence. We watched Markiplier’s Iron Lung and then went line by line through the details that make it hit so hard: the Quiet Rapture lore, the uneasy silence, and the constant fear that the only “help” he has is lying to him. 

We talk about why the movie feels so “video game” in the best way, how the x-ray camera changes what you think you’re seeing, and the moment the blood touches skin and reality starts slipping. We also unpack the monster reveal, the idea of the blood as a hive mind, and the ending imagery that connects Simon’s Eden seedling to the “thousand trees” prophecy. If you like cosmic horror, sci-fi suspense, and stories that reward a second watch, there’s a lot here to chew on. 

Then we zoom out to the wild production side: Markiplier (Mark Fishbach) as director and lead, the craft choices, and the behind-the-scenes grit that went into pulling off a contained indie horror film with big ambition. We even spiral into a listener challenge around The Coffee Table, because sometimes the scariest part is what you’re willing to sit through. 

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Welcome And Markiplier Bit

SPEAKER_02

Hello, survivors, and welcome to another episode of Will You Survive? The Bast. I am your host, Eric, and I am joined here by my co-host Alex. That's me. And our uh in-house demon TJ. That's me. He's also known as Batman.

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I'm Batman.

SPEAKER_02

He's Batman. Which would not have saved our main character in the movie that we watched today, which was Iron Lung. This movie was made by the YouTuber Markiplier. Big fan. Big fan. Okay, Mr. Cool Guy over here. You never heard of him.

SPEAKER_05

No, I I only I only know the director, Mark Fishbach. I'm actually only a fan of his movies. I'm not sure who much of his YouTuber is. But uh the director of this movie, yeah. I actually really respect him as an artist and a director.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, it's cool if he wants to do his little fun, little tiny side projects or whatever that he does on YouTube, but like it's really the meat of it is here in Iron Long.

SPEAKER_06

You know, this markipler guy, he's not a good guy. He slept with the director's wife. Dude, that's crazy. What a piece of shit. That's crazy. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_03

I did know that. I think it was like an ongoing regular thing, too. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02

Did everybody on set know? Dude. I'm pretty sure. What a controversial reader. So we sound like the media.

SPEAKER_03

We're so the media. I think except for the fact that I would be the only person before watching this movie who would have been fooled by it. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I doubt there's anybody out there who didn't know. Uh I I'm probably one of the only few who didn't know that Markiplier is Mark Fishbach.

SPEAKER_02

Him getting married, it um I mean, his name is kind of like widely known out there, but like him getting married is kind of news. So like I could see that joke kind of working on somebody. Uh to clear just in case you are confused, uh, Mark Fishbach is Markiplier, and Markiplier was the director and lead of this movie. So,

First Impressions And Silent Storytelling

SPEAKER_02

yes, Markiplier uh slept with his wife. I mean, I I guess we don't know, but I assume. We we assume they're the same person. Well, that's not what I meant. So great movie. I'm not gonna lie. The like the last half of it kind of was not losing me in a bad way, losing me as in like I feel like I was missing some key minor details. Absolutely. And I most certainly was. And when TJ went back and showed me, I'm like, oh, that's actually there's a lot of cool little things in this movie that I think I'm gonna I'll tell you about it more. A lot of them, yeah. Well, a lot of the like beginning 20 minutes or so, there's a lot of like silent moments where he's just discovering things, and it's obvious like there's there's little details being shown to you like a lot at once, and he's not saying anything throughout that time. So it's I think it was an interesting stylistic choice because I was thinking back to like um a lot of movies one won't do like a like a character by himself for the most part. It it's tougher to do that, but then even the ones that do, I mean I was kind of thinking of what's that like white bitches stuck in places. Yeah, I was also thinking buried. Buried buried was one, but then uh this kind of reminded me of um oh god, I lost my train of thought. I had it. We were not cast away.

SPEAKER_05

No, we just saw Project There is a ship that uh happened because people are like, these are very similar movies, just like very opposite ends of the spectrum where this is cosmic horror, yeah. But uh Project Hail Mary was like cosmic hope, you know?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, so the thing about Project well, I meant more like style. Yes, I agree. But I was thinking more stylistically of the movies, like no, uh Project Hail Mary, um he was always talking, it kind of similar to like The Martian. They set it up and and the style and directing was that, and the script was that the main character would be talking even if it was to himself. It but this was very different. It was a lot of uh at least like that first like 30 minutes or so, there's a lot of like him not saying anything and just discovering things, and I think that's cool.

SPEAKER_05

I that's yeah, it's very video gamey, which this is based off a video game. So he's kind of playing the part of you when you're playing it, you know? Like your discovery.

SPEAKER_02

Really quick to wrap up my point that I I wanted to make here. I I think that it has like an older style to it. Because like a lot of older movies, like 90s, like I see that's crazy, but a lot of like a lot of really old movies, like way back in the 90s. Ancient nineties movies, you know, when there were black and white pre-your life. Yeah, it's pre-google, nineties and like two thousands. There's a lot of movies where there is more silence and discovery, even like the beginning of Resident Evil. There's no there's no talking there uh in the very in the first one. Like a lot of those movies around that time period are more like we're gonna show you rather than tell you. But I think people don't have the attention span for that nowadays.

SPEAKER_05

It's all like so.

SPEAKER_02

That's why Netflix tells you four times. Yeah. So, but this kind of went back to that kind of like, I'm just gonna show you, and I like that.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the was anybody else confused in the first like five minutes? Uh what was actually.

SPEAKER_06

No, because I think we we know of the game. Uh okay.

SPEAKER_03

Remember, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Um when I like because I seen this in theaters. I remember being like mad confused about some stuff.

SPEAKER_02

But well we knew like we knew the first five minutes, right? Like immediately like I know the premise, I know it's happening.

SPEAKER_05

Like you said, it's very old movie-esque because it kinda dumps shit on you literally right at the start, where there's a man with a deep voice and he's like, the stars are gone. This is happening, this is happening. Blood ocean. Yeah, iron lung, and he's like getting dropped into the blood, you know?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so well, I could see from like Alex's perspective, who hasn't seen the video game, hasn't seen Mark play the video game, to be like, what in the world is even happening? What do you mean? Like, what is this red liquid? Like, I I guess it's blood, and the well, what was your thought process? Like watching it.

SPEAKER_03

So I thought it was blood, but I didn't understand how the blood was tied in. So it didn't make sense to me, and I was a little distracted. I mean, I I don't have ADHD, but I'll say a shout out to you. My ADH moment, my ADHD moment was uh that voice. Uh I I watched it today, and I had to watch it at uh kind of a high rate of speed, so I watched it at 1.5 and the funniest. Well, it sounded like Liam Neeson. Oh and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm like, is it did they get fucking Liam Neeson to voice?

SPEAKER_02

That's Markiplier. No way, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that was funny.

SPEAKER_02

That's classic Markiplier. He's got a deep voice. He he constantly does like that I'm the narrator voice.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and it was it was really interesting. So I was like, I kept thinking, I'm like, who the fuck is voicing this thing? And but anyway, I get I get through the intro, and I did think blood. Um, the other part of it was of course, you heard the captain tell him when he was on his descent, um, don't let the blood touch you. I think she said, Don't let the blood touch you.

SPEAKER_05

Did she say that? It's yeah. Oh, I didn't catch that. That's acidic. That's why, like, what yeah, when he like unwraps his arms, you can see it's like bubbling up and shit. Yeah, it's like acidic and it kind of like so But it's more than that. Yeah, it's more than that. But from like at the start, that's kind of where you don't let it touch you. Yeah, you know, it's bad. I would say and it is blood, it is human blood. Yeah. Um at the start of the movie he's like explaining the thing, the quiet rapture happened. All the stars and all the planets disappeared. Right? Where'd all the humans go? I'll tell you where they went. Into an ocean of blood. That's everybody's blood.

SPEAKER_02

If all the stars and planets disappeared, wouldn't it just be a universe of darkness?

SPEAKER_03

Well, essentially, yes. Wouldn't there be zero light? It would just be pitching everywhere. Okay, you you have to you have to understand how important it was that he's hearing this voice telling him about light.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I guess so. There's there's a line in the movie, um, Eric. Uh you know, because the stars are so far away. Uh if you know, like when they say, Oh, if our sun went missing, we wouldn't know for eight minutes. Right.

Blood Ocean Premise And Confusion

SPEAKER_05

So imagine all of the stars and shit disappearing all at once. You're still gonna have stars for a long ass time, but they are no longer there. You know?

SPEAKER_03

So that is you're gonna see the light for a long time.

SPEAKER_05

You're gonna see the light, but in the immediate immediate vicinity of where you're at, you're not gonna be able to see Jack Diddly Squat other than faint stars going away. You know?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, well, I mean that's that's very interesting, but so okay, go on about the the moon of blood.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, uh so yeah, moon of blood. That's what they set you up at the start. It's blood, he's going into it to look for some shit. Um, and then they also drop some exposition on like, you know, kind of why he's kind of there. He's like, hey, hey, we'll uh, you know, you go down and we'll consider it time served when we bring you back up, you know. So he's thinking, look for some shit, come back up, you know.

SPEAKER_03

And and by by the way, I I also have this uh sinking suspicion that so she did not tell him that it was human blood at first. She told him it was blood, but she didn't tell him it was human blood. Did she know? And he learned it when he was down there. It was either a hallucination or she actually told him.

SPEAKER_05

I think that was very when the uh he came across the ship at the boat.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I think too. Uh what was very interesting about the whole communique was she he's talking to the captain, and I th I at this point I thought it was legitimately the captain that he was talking to. He wasn't hallucinating yet. But she outright lied to him, right? This was uh I think we already knew that this was intended to be an execution chamber. It wasn't gonna be a successful mission. There's no way for him to successfully complete this mission.

SPEAKER_02

They didn't give him enough oxygen, they expected him to die. Yeah, they were bold.

SPEAKER_03

The thing is the part about it was it's constantly connected. Well, but the the part that was interesting to me on that front was she's lying to him every step of the way, and then at that point when it becomes critical, you're right, ram it, and he says, What is that gonna do to the ship? Trust me. I'm like, Lady, I already don't trust you, and it's only been about I I think this was total a two-hour movie, and I think at this point it was like a sample.

SPEAKER_05

Very there's nothing on the front to collect it, they're hoping that that the weird great things just so happen to rip a chunk off or something. Right.

SPEAKER_02

So, but here's also the thing, I I could kind of believe that in a sense of like, you know, if you're in like a world at like extinction moment, like all the stars and planets just disappeared, you're desperately just trying to find, I assume, any place to call home. I can understand where you're like, we don't have a lot of technology.

SPEAKER_03

Well, this was the most realistic and honest thing that she said, right? I know you think that we're doing this as punishment, but it's not. We don't have the people to spare to do this.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. So why not start with the bad ones?

SPEAKER_03

Right. But she did lie that he was the first.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, she did.

SPEAKER_03

She she said he was the first one, and he was like, wait a minute, he's talking to the the crew of SM8 who shouldn't be there. Which he What is your take? What what were they there? Was he talking to the monster?

SPEAKER_06

I think it was the monster.

SPEAKER_05

It is the monster. Yeah. The monster is the crew of the SM8. A uh the person like one of the people who worked on the movie confirmed it. Uh that so because like when you see it, like the sub down there that's broken open, you can see it's broken from the inside out, big hole on the side. Um, and they all kind of like merge together, like well, we c we kind of do this all the time. Jumping to the end of the movie, you've seen how he was starting to like stick to things, you know, and it was trying to like consume him and like amalgam him into the you know, so that's what happened to the crew of the previous sub. And they turned into the monster. Um which and also I think if you look on IMDB, um it shows like the name of the person and like who they played. It was uh SM8 research thing and then uh the voice, and then there was another one who was the whisper. So it was two different people playing, you know. So yeah, crew with SM8 monster.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and that also makes sense because again, we're jumping to the end of the movie. Uh he was starting to meld with the monster too.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he was starting to meld with like everything because uh I I said this to Eric. Um the blood, it's kind of like a theory, but not a theory, it's like pretty valid. Um the blood kind of is like a hive mind type beat, you know? Like when he f He only started hallucinating once the blood.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, once the blood touched him is when he started like which if you remember, that was pretty close to the beginning. When it spat at him from the Yeah, it was it was when he welded shut window.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I think wasn't it when he like got dropped back down and then it like shut and then it just did a little spurt. Um yeah, that's how it ended up talking to him, and that's like when he was like first starting to hear the voice, you know. Um he like heard it fr coming from the speaker or whatever, and then like the speaker's unplugged. So like how was yeah, how was it talking? But then it wasn't, but then it wasn't.

SPEAKER_02

So that's where I think like I think at first it was just messing with him. Like that was the first time you realized. I think that was the first like time you realized like, oh shoot, this thing has been really messing with him. Like it we're now at a point where like nothing can be believed as reality because at any point you could be in a hallucination and you just don't know.

SPEAKER_05

There was a couple things messing with that's terrifying the blood, um also the radiation from the x-ray, because if you

Execution Mission And Captain’s Lies

SPEAKER_05

well, you know, it's a quick moment, but he's scrolling through the uh the booklet, the instructions, the what to do and what not to do of the submarine, it says like don't use the x-ray camera too much, it's bad for you, radiation. Um so the radiation is fucking with him and also I don't know if you noticed I couldn't I didn't see it the first time I watched it, but he drank the fucking isopropyl alcohol, um which is explained I was like, oh, because he starts coughing up blood um at one point, which that causes that.

SPEAKER_02

Why did he drink the isopropyl alcohol? I don't know. I I that was when he took like a shot at the front of it. I don't know. Was he trying to throw up for some reason?

SPEAKER_03

I I didn't get the idea that he was trying to throw up. I thought because I thought he was trying not to throw up because he drank all of the water, and that was kind of funny. He was like, I had water this whole time. But let me read you this quote that comes from this movie. The guy who told you to cross the wires. This is not an expedition. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_05

Let me somebody's alarm going off.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, holy shit. Perfect timing.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, go on.

SPEAKER_03

The guy who told you to cross the wires, this is not an expedition, it's an execution. When they put you in here, they don't want you to return. And even if you do, and even if they keep their promises, what freedom waits for you? A few dying ships and a sea of dead stars? If there is still hope, it lies beyond the veil. Hope in this void is an illusionary, is as illusionary as the starlight. I will choose to breathe my last at the bottom of an ocean, unseen, unheard, and uncontrolled. They will get their execution. Yeah. I will get my freedom. It is the most logical statement to say what freedom awaits you. There's no such thing after a quote successful mission.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you still go back to something where there's pretty much no hope.

SPEAKER_05

Right. Plants, trees, planets, animals, nothing. Just a bunch of which was but then he found that hope. Um yeah. So when the black box. Not the black box, that's I had to sh show Eric this because he didn't see it. Um which like I don't know if it was obvious to you, but the little seedling, he he finds a little seedling and uh turns it into like a bracelet. Do you remember that? Yeah. So um the reason that is a thing is because um there's the Coalition of Iron, which who has him like captive um as a you know, inmate convict. Um, and then there is Eden, which is where he's from, where Simon the main character is from. Eden had the last tree, and their belief was that you know, even if we're dying out, you know, we will become soil so that there may be more trees. So that's why the seedling is kind of important to like him. That's why he was, you know. Um and that's why on the message it was it said like something, something, uh brother. Uh, because they all, you know, it's kind of culty, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that was that was a really fast detail that that they just show for like two seconds and then yeah, and then go away from.

SPEAKER_03

I'll say it was pretty fast. The only thing I noticed was that he kept looking at it over and over and over again on his wrist. Uh even when he noticed that the bandages were getting heavily soiled and he started unfurling them and seeing all of the burns all over his wrist. The last thing that he had on his wrist was that bracelet that he made. So I knew it was important, I didn't understand why.

SPEAKER_02

I completely missed him finding it, so I don't think I noticed him checking.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I I like I I saw him cross the wires, I saw that part, but I don't know how I missed him breaking the way like the bracelet out. So I missed that. So I didn't yeah, so I didn't notice, like I said, there's a lot of like silent details that happened here. So he grabs that that bracelet, which ends up being very important and says nothing about it, like not even like a what's this? Like nothing, just silence, grabs it, puts it on his wrist, but it has such important meaning, and I missed that, so I don't think I noticed him checking it or looking at it throughout the rest of the movie. It just didn't seem like a weird movement to me. It just seemed like he was doing that.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Jump to what happens with that seedling. I don't know if you noticed it, Alex. Eric did.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I I didn't I didn't outright notice what I thought I what I thought he did was he attached it to the life vest, the buoy. Um and set it up with the black box.

SPEAKER_05

He did he did put the you know the black he saved the black box. But at the very end of the movie, it's a very quick little glimpse or whatever, but you see uh his wrist, his arm got pulled off, right? That's where the that's where the seedling was.

SPEAKER_04

Yep.

SPEAKER_05

Right? So you see it do a little spark and then it goes does a close-in on Simon's face and his eye sparks a little bit. And then it does a little zoom out, and you're seeing through the blood, and you're seeing the monster eating the submarine, and then it explodes. And if you pay attention, yeah, you can see roots growing at like a rapid pace. So that's what yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, I did so so that's interesting. I didn't understand that that was so relevant. Me neither. Because I thought that was part of the the undersea, the undersea ocean. I thought it was becoming like the ship was being overtaken by those roots. I didn't know that was coming from that little seedling.

SPEAKER_05

Coagulated blood, so it shifts, which is really gross. Um, there's a line, I'm trying to find it, but um Oh, that is gross. Uh the character at the beginning that like does um he says something about the last son of Eden um like will become a tree or some shit. Um yeah, like kind of like a prop. So it's like a prophecy. Yeah, kind of kind of like a prophecy.

SPEAKER_02

That's pretty cool. There's yeah, there's this is definitely a movie that I could see myself watching again and catching more details on. Because it's uh I I don't mean this, I don't mean this in the way that it probably sounds. It was a tough watch, not in a bad way, like it was a very enjoyable watch, and I want to watch it again. I I guess I say tough in a sense that it was long and there's a lot of small details in there that make up the important storyline. Um so like it's a it's a little trickier of a movie to watch than it's not a Netflix movie where they where it tells you what the plot is four times every time something happens.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you become soil for the next trees or whatever. Uh and there is a prophecy which it's in the movie somewhere. Um he's like, When the last son of Eden joins the grove, there will be a thousand trees. Um so yeah, there's kind of uh you know little foreshadowing thing. Also, um there's a part in the movie where he sees. He's like a dead thing at the like a kind of a zombie looking thing in the back of the iron lung. And then he goes and then he looks, it's not there, and then he turns around and it's behind him. Um,

The Monster As The Crew

SPEAKER_05

and if you notice, it's doing the same movement that he did.

SPEAKER_07

Yep.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so it like he he like when he seen it first, he did like a little head tilt. I did catch that. And like looked at it, and then he went to go look, right? And then when he looked back at it, it was doing that head tilt, but he was also doing the movement of when he seen it. Okay, so that was also a little uh foreshadowing moment of the fate of him, which like first movie, first like hint time him like writing, pretty good. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I was telling TJ this coming from a critique standpoint, not not a judgy standpoint, because I think this is a great movie, and I sure as fuck couldn't do better. But coming from a critique standpoint, I was worried coming into this that I might not be able to see him as another character. Like, I mean, I I've been watching this guy on YouTube since I was like 13, 14. I've been watching this guy on YouTube for a long time, and he's he's you know, been somebody that I've I've watched grow as well, and it's just really cool to to see him make something like this, but uh so I definitely couldn't do fucking better. But I did notice that or I was worried that watching this movie I would have a hard time seeing him as a believable character and not as markiplier.

SPEAKER_09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Because I've seen him as markiplier for so long that it's hard not to. Like it's not like an actor, really. Like, this is a guy who's been like just real and trying to be just as human as possible uh uh while holding the markiplier brand. And now he's an actor and trying to play this character. The first like 20 minutes, it's weird because I know movies aren't filmed this way, they're not filmed in sequential order, they're filmed in whatever order makes the most sense, cost efficient-wise for sets. So, but it seems like the first 20 minutes, it was almost like video game dialogue. Like the dialogue was a little stale and a little like kind of cheesy, but after like the first 20 minutes, I feel like I really started to believe the character. And like w when they were when him and Ava were talking, it suddenly felt more real. Like at first, I'm like, that doesn't really feel like a human reaction. Like the way he would be like, let's just get this done. It was like that feels like a very video game character reaction to this, you know? That doesn't feel very human. Like I feel like a human would be a little more scared about this situation, you know? And he gets there, but it's that first like 20, 30 minutes, but then after that, I I think for me it was like when he got angry uh at the uh speaker, and he like at that was the first moment that he really lost it. Like, for instance, in the very beginning, there's a moment where it like pans to the side and he just goes Okay, and it just like starts going. I'm like n I think the more human reaction would have been like I was I guess I was kind of thinking like uh maybe like a uh like a Kubrick movie or something, but like it would like put the camera outside the sub, like looking in, and then he would just like scream, like belt out a scream, but it would be silent because it's like you're outside of the room, so you don't actually hear him screaming. But like that's what I thought was gonna happen, but then he was just okay, and I was like, I just didn't feel superhuman right there. Um but then when he like that first moment where he lost it, where he just got so angry, I was like, okay, this feels like a real character now. And that was the moment where I was like, Okay, I'm no longer seeing you as Markiplier, I'm actually seeing you as this character. And I thought that was cool.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I I also have a hard time like when I first went to go see it, I was like, Yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to. I could see him as him eventually, maybe like 40 minutes in, and I was like, Yeah, yeah, Simon.

SPEAKER_07

It got better.

SPEAKER_05

Like But the thing is, there's another person in this movie that whenever I hear his voice, I'm just like, oh, it's that person. And that is the dude on the uh the speaker uh once you know he's dropping back down. That's just Troy Baker. He's in like every video game and like anime and whatever. I've he's Joel in The Last of Us.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, that guy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Mr. Uh what's that song? What's the one we always do?

SPEAKER_05

If I ever were you, yeah. Um that guy's him. Every time, every time I hear his voice, I'm just like, that's just Troy Baker. That's cool. To the point where I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02

That okay, and now I know who that is. Like, that's that's a really cool person to have on.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, no, that's it's a very, very dope that he was able to get him on there. Oh, and also Jack Septiceye was in it, but you don't really like you kind of see his face for like a millisecond. He was cleaning off the glass when he uh X-rayed, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so I had to do a Wait, do you know who Jack Septike is? Yeah, I know who you guys are talking about. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, the Jack Septikeye is uh he's another like really famous YouTuber. For a while it was like top three gaming YouTubers were PewDiePie, Markiplier, and Jackseptikeye.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, no, no. I I thought you were still talking about the actor. But um, I had to look up what you were talking about, TJ. And what's funny is there's the lore surrounding Iron Lung, the game, and crossing into the movie. Uh the original quote was something like From the game? I like this better. This is from the lore. I don't know if it's from the game because I've never played it, but it was there will be a thousand trees once the last son of Eden joins the grove.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, and in the movie, they actually quote it when the last son of Eden joins the grove, there will be a thousand trees. So they they reversed it, but it's the same point, they make the same the same statement, if you will. Um, and then of course there's variations in the transcript, so how he actually delivered the line could be up, but I don't remember it specifically.

SPEAKER_05

It's in like assuming that what was the station call that he had blow up a station. And he's like, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_03

It was called the Filament Project.

SPEAKER_05

Filament station, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Filament station.

SPEAKER_05

Um so I'm assuming Which he didn't blow up. He says. He says. He says, but he definitely said that he didn't. Yeah, he was referred to as the butcher.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_02

He also later said, like, he kept saying, like, I didn't know they were gonna do that. Like, that wasn't the plan, that wasn't what we were supposed to be doing. So it was it really seemed like he was a part of something, but they had other plans that he was not aware of, and he just kind of got blamed for it because he was a part of it.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, it it might have been like uh like a suicide by by cop, you know?

SPEAKER_02

I I imagine like the way he worded that kind of made me feel like if you were like hanging out with people and then all of a sudden you're robbing a bank. Yeah. And you're like, I did not know we were gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't know we were shooting old ladies on the floor.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, or like, you know, it's like, okay, we're gonna we're gonna rob this liquor store, but then you pull up to a bank and take hostages, and you're like, I did not know we were doing this. Like I we were doing something bad, but I did not know it was this.

SPEAKER_05

Which I think that's kind of what it felt like resulted in the last tree dying. Um, which we can assume means he is the last son of Eden because um his people

Eden Seedling And Thousand Trees

SPEAKER_05

have been sent down to the blood ocean as well. That's how he got the seedling. So last son of Eden joins the grove, turned into a tree at the end. Um there is also more lore in this. Um because I've wa this is my third time watching it. I watched it again today. Um when he is getting talked to by the monster, and she's like, Yeah, go to these coordinates, and he goes, and then there's like all the light and shit beaming through and whatever. That's in the game too. It's like a little anomaly in the water. Um, I think it's referred to as like a portal or something, which if according to lore and kind of like speculation, um it's kind of like it kind of kind of shows what caused the quiet rapture to happen in the first place where he gets to that and then he like wakes up in the blood. You remember him like standing up and then he looks up, there's this giant eye. Um so that giant eye apparently um then there's like a line in the movie talking about like you know, a god peers in through a pinhole and something, something so that is assumed to be some other you know, greater being from another universe that weird into ours and then just kind of you know, quiet rapture happened. Um which that's like you know, speculation or whatever.

SPEAKER_03

But I I I think that's pretty much which uh so I'm thinking that what actually happened wasn't a hallucination, that the monster took out his host ship. Right? Captain Ava was gone and started talking to him through the monster, if you will. That was kind of my interpretation when she was like, This is bigger than this is bigger than me, this is bigger than you, you have to do it, because then you heard like the static, the screaming, and then it was like all competing voices telling him.

SPEAKER_05

She went down in another submarine to go retrieve him, is what happened. And then um, if you look at the screen when the camera like it's continuously like flashing, yeah, um and taking pictures, it shows her submarine getting crushed by the the monster. By him, okay, okay. You need to get the black box, you are the only one who could do it because she's about to die. Um and then at the very end you see like the light on the the surface, and then a you know, ship comes and finds the black box, which we're we're assuming they found it.

SPEAKER_03

Um and and also he destroyed the monster, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, see the the tree explosion destroyed the monster.

SPEAKER_03

Um, see, I I wasn't sure if it was the tree explosion or if it was him rigging the submarine to implode, which was pretty free.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, no, all all all of this is me watching it three times. And I kind of pieced it together each time. First time I watched this shit, did not know what the fuck happened. Sat there for two hours looking at the screen, could have sworn I wasn't even watching the movie.

SPEAKER_03

It was tough. It was it was a tough watch, I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_02

I I definitely think that like having watched him play the game adds a little context, not a lot, because a lot of what's in this movie is all lore that Mark made up, but Mark was working with the creator of the game who liked it apparently. Yeah, so I feel like he I feel like they were like coordinating where like Mark was like, This is my idea, do you think this fits? Or like I I assume there was some conversations like that of like this is your game, I want to make a movie off of it, I'm thinking this is the plot. What do you think? Like, does this make does this consistent with your world, or should I swap it up a little bit? Like I assume there was that that kind of conversation when the script was being made.

SPEAKER_05

It had lore, but it wasn't as like deep as you know how the movie took it. It was really just you down in a submarine, voice tells you to go to 13 points, and then you're just frickin' going through taking pictures, and then the way the game ends is you're going to the final point, and then that's when a jump scare happens. Most of the time it's like not you don't even no jump scares, no nothing. Maybe you see some freaky shit on the camera.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the the game is maybe like an hour, an hour and a half long to be. Yeah, I saw that. It's not a long time.

SPEAKER_03

Depending on on how you play it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It's not a very long game. Um, you know, Mark, uh, Mark was saying that you know the numbers on the on the I guess call it the dash.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh when he would like push up and down or whatever. On his podcast, he talked about how he spent a lot of time in post making sure that the numbers were correct. Which that when he would push up the numbers, that they would be going up at at the right interval, and that the right number would start before it would start going up, and to make sure that like anytime the camera turned to that, that the numbers were realistic and correct for where he was going. So that it would be like you because in the game, you're in the submarine, if you could call it that, you're in an iron lung.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, and you have a forward button, a backwards button, and then a rotation, and and a rotation button. So and you're you're given your coordinates, and then you're given a grid map. Which looks like the map.

SPEAKER_05

You have this tunnel system, like a X-ray. Yeah, you know, so you can't really see shit.

SPEAKER_02

So you're looking in the game, you're looking at it, and you're blind in the submarine. So you're going off of the grid and going like, okay, well, there's a wall at about 35 north, so I need uh I'm at 25 north, so okay, let me rotate this way. Let me make sure am I reading this map the right direction? Like it it's a it's a whole thing in the game, but that's that's the whole point of the game, is that you're going to these points blind, so you're blindly f uh driving this submarine uh and to try and collect these pictures.

SPEAKER_05

There also is like uh like it's there's like man-made shit in the ocean in the game, or like not even man-made. I don't even know. It's like there's like pillars and shit. So it's very different.

SPEAKER_03

It's kind of focused on like well, and they they do, I mean, what they they say a couple of things in here that m lead you to believe that there's such a thing as aliens too, don't they? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say the game kind of implies that there was like maybe some alien species.

SPEAKER_05

And he's like alien shit. Like he writes it on the Yeah, yeah. Uh, I wanted to bring this up at the start. Uh I don't know how stupid these characters are, but considering that, hey, this camera I'm using that I just seen is an X-ray that only sees bone, right? Only sees bone. Why

Acting Notes And Surprise Voice Cast

SPEAKER_05

would I assume that this skeleton sitting at the bottom of this blood ocean is just bone? Isn't alive. I didn't even ram the creature at the start.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that makes sense. I didn't even catch that, but that makes so so much so much sense because when he told her, like, no, it moved. Right. Like the skeleton moved. So that makes so much sense. I didn't even I didn't even consider that. But you would think that they would consider that that where they're like, well, I guess they did, because they were like, okay, we gotta pull you out. Like that's that's not okay.

SPEAKER_05

They clearly were like, okay, if the skeleton moved, then it's not a skeleton. But um they they they kind of assumed that it was like the bottom of the like ocean floor moving that made it move or something. But again, she was like, hey, dude, it's an X-ray. And he's like, damn, I didn't know it was an X-ray. Goes down. Hey, there's a skeleton. Yeah, yeah. I didn't put that together like till like on my drive like home from when I watched it. I was like, Oh, he rammed into it and it was mad. Yeah, I wouldn't have caught that either. There's also like a little scary moment that I didn't notice when I first watched it when he's going to grab the like seed or whatever, and he's constantly pressing the button. He presses it, turns around, kind of moves to the right a little bit, and you could see what pops up on the picture, and you can see the frickin' monster just staring at him, and then he presses it again, and then it's gone.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And it was gone. Yep.

SPEAKER_02

I did not catch that. I knew there was gonna be some stuff in those in those pictures because obviously there has to be. That's a big part of the game, but also like whenever it's like, oh, I hit the button and I walk away without looking at it, it's like, okay, well, you're gonna show me something here. Like, you're gonna show me something that me as the audience is gonna see, but the character doesn't.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so but I knew they were gonna throw stuff in there, I just didn't catch it.

SPEAKER_06

Also, why would they put a window on it?

SPEAKER_03

This was true, right?

SPEAKER_06

Why why put the window if you're gonna have to close it anyways? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05

By the way, what we scavenged this window from the uh fucking station. I keep forgetting its name. Filament station is what she said. Filament, kind of alluding to what happened. But that just makes me think it's a regular ass piece of glass. Like who made this thing, dude?

SPEAKER_02

Ocean gate? Oh man. Yeah, I don't know if I have too much more to say about this movie, other than I think it was pretty great. Um, I'm a little biased because I really like Markiplier. Um, but I think I think fair objective is like maybe eight out of ten.

SPEAKER_05

I think eight out of ten.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, okay. What would you say? Wow, would you put it higher or lower?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I I don't know that I would put it higher, just if we're rating it against other movies, um I think it had some areas of of uh opportunity. I I would definitely give it an above average, but I would say a solid uh and I'm not trying to be mean here. Um, I think it's a very tough sell to be alone in an entire movie like this. He did a good job, he sold his psychosis, uh, but I wasn't very clear on when he was hallucinating and when it was real. But I think that was the point. I I get that. It's it's a it's a choice, right? And and I'm not faulting him as the actor, this might have been a little much for acting and directing, in the sense that there was there was a lot going on, or so little to be happening.

SPEAKER_05

And Judge, if he gives it lower. I think that other needs you to it I need you to explain.

SPEAKER_03

No, I would say a six for sure.

SPEAKER_05

What he went through to make this movie.

SPEAKER_02

Oh wait, yeah, you don't know all this backstory. Okay, so to kind of fill you in a little bit, Markiplier has a podcast called Distractable. We've talked about it on here. Um, onset podcast. He's been talking about this movie since he started production like three, four years ago. He's been in the final stretch of the movie for like the last two years. Uh he kept saying like every time they'd be like, How's the movie going? He'd be like, We're in the final stretch. In the final stretch, we just have a little more to go. We're almost done. And that was like two years ago. And and for like the next two years, he'd be like, We're in the final stretch, in the final stretch. But this guy built a render farm in his bathroom so that he could render the images, the CGI images, as much as he wanted. Because he was like, I could hire a company, but then I have to pay them for every render until I get the perfect render, or I have to settle. He said, So the other option is I make a render farm, I put it in my bathroom with a bunch of AC units, and then I can render it as many times as I want for basically free. Kinda. He was not accounting for the power usage. So he kinda was. His power bill was very expensive. First of all, it's very expensive to buy a server farm. Yeah. So he was buying a lot of parts on eBay and was like raving about how awesome eBay is, and how you gotta look like he was like, I'm giving away all my secrets right now. Like, you could find these awesome parts for so cheap. And then, like, two weeks later, he'd be back on the podcast and being like, So I got scammed, and uh turns out there's a reason they were this cheap. And so he was running into a lot of problems with it,

Game Connections And X-Ray Clues

SPEAKER_02

got it running. Um, then he got the power bill, and he was like, Holy shit, it was like $13,000 or something like that in one month. Yep, and he was like, That's a problem. So he bought solar panels, got solar panels installed on his roof, didn't change.

SPEAKER_03

Is he in California?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, didn't change. So he was like, What the fuck? So he's on his roof. He said he was on his roof with a water hose, watering his solar panels and scrubbing them clean, thinking that maybe they're just dirty. That didn't solve anything. He hires an electrician who comes in and goes, Oh, dude, it's just filling up the battery and then sending the rest to the grid.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And he goes, What the fuck? So he had to get that all sorted out. Um and so long story short, he built a he built this. Farm, which there's now pictures of it, and it is so much worse than you could imagine. It's so funny. Like, this is the most like in a bathroom, this is the most jank redneck like software computer shit I've ever seen in my life. It's so funny. And it worked. And so he apparently like went on a subreddit, which is like it's literally a subreddit about like janky setups that work, and even they were roasting the shit out of him. And he was like, Is this not the subreddit for this stuff? Um, Apple invited him out to an event recently to talk about his render farm and basically be like, So how the fuck did you do that? It's so funny. So he did that. There's also another funny story that I I want to tell. I'm literally just kind of telling his stories, but like you could go listen to it on Distractable. I don't know what episode this is from, but um, in one of his small talks, he talks about how he had some contractor, inspector, or something come over. Oh, oh, he had a guy come over, uh, a trash guy come with a big like trailer to just throw away a throw away a bunch of stuff. And so he tells the guy, he's like, Hey, don't open these buckets, they're really stinky. And basically, the bucket ends up getting open, and all this guy sees is a bucket of blood. Oh. And it reeks. And my I Mark was at first, I think he said like he didn't realize at first what had happened, and then he I think he said he was like desperately trying to explain, like, it's for a movie, like I I'm making a movie about like a moon of blood, and there's like which but he had like this has the wet record of just blood for the most amount of blood.

SPEAKER_05

I was gonna say Yeah, no, it's it's above uh Oh, he officially got it. Uh what was it? What was the last one? That's awesome! Um fucking Sam Raimi movie. What the fuck is that one? Evil Dead, yeah. Um has 80,000 gallons of blood, which would be approximately 60,000 gallons. I think is what I read. Uh worth of blood. Uh all like corn syrup or whatever. So that's why it's stink. Because he just has like corn syrup blood. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because it's rancid corn syrup. But they just but they they they open this this bucket and it's just this rancid bucket of blood. And it's just so funny.

SPEAKER_05

Because he was constantly himself. He got it in his eye.

SPEAKER_02

Think of the think of the scenes where he's where the where it's flooding. Now I know what he was talking about, where on the podcast he was saying, like, oh yeah, I I went to the hospital recently. Like, this guy's always in the hospital, by the way. Um, but he posted a picture on Instagram with like blood shot eyes. And everybody's like, oh my god, like, are you fucking okay? And he's like, it's die, I'm okay. Like, I just had to go just to like get everything checked out, I'm fine. Um, but he was saying, like, yeah, he he took like a full fucking straight eye shot of blood.

SPEAKER_05

Of fake blood straight to the eye. He probably had yeah, he probably had to film that a couple times. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_02

That'd be a good idea. Yeah, that that's probably to get the right like look constantly. Yeah, that's yeah, it could have happened at any point in this movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because when when he got hit, he kind of seemed a little shocked. I can imagine. Maybe that was just good acting, but it was it it looked really genuine.

SPEAKER_02

He was I bet. He was also talking about how oh well that that reminds me of like I think it was Beat It's Michael Jackson. They did like they did like some ridiculous number of like 38 mixes, and then they went with mix two. Um sometimes it's like that. You know, you take it, you take the shot 20 times and you use the first take.

SPEAKER_03

And it and it depends on how you're doing it. Like when when we went into I had a experience going into a recording studio. When you go into the recording studio, you already pay for it ahead of time. So use up the time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you get you get your great take, you're like, wow, that was it, but you're like, fuck it, do it again.

SPEAKER_03

We still have the time. Like we we already went in predetermined, we're gonna do each song three times. And for two of them, you're right, like the take one was okay, that was it. But that was like our thing. We practiced five days the week before because the idea was we're gonna go in and freaking nail these. That's exactly what we want to do. And we ended up doing it. It was a four-track demo that we intended to uh we intended to just take the time to do the four tracks, but we ended up being able to bust out all of our songs because of that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's definitely it's it's helpful to go in with the plan, but go back to the movie. Um I think there was uh wait, how do we how did we get there?

SPEAKER_03

The uh fake blood all of the all of the uh spatter in his eye,

Behind The Scenes Blood And Render Farm

SPEAKER_03

all of the takes, probably was the first take.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. We were oh man, I had a moon thought process. I kind of forgot it.

SPEAKER_03

But 420?

SPEAKER_02

It's one in the morning. The moon in the movie.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that could be it. Maybe survive.

SPEAKER_05

Um it's hot. He he says it's hot down here. Blood blood in order to be see, I don't get that. You know, not coagulated needs to be at a certain temperature. That's why it's all liquid. There are no stars to keep it warm.

SPEAKER_07

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a molten core. It's coagulated blood at the bottom.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_05

And he's hearing this heartbeat at the start. He's like, Do you hear that?

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_05

The moon is alive. Also, the tunnels kind of look like, you know, valves and shit.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's an interesting theory.

SPEAKER_05

Again, third watch. It's definitely interesting.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't catch that part. That all makes sense. No, yeah, I mean that that makes sense. I mean, like, um, I'm trying to think of any other shit.

SPEAKER_05

The logic of this movie. Um, yeah, any final thing to get there in the story. Actors I don't think I had anything else other than Mark's character. Um the monster's name is Ellie, uh, officially because the person who designed it named it that. Um Monsters Made of People. I already told you that. Um Yeah, I don't know. Oh, the reason that the main voice of the monster is that person is because that person was drinking the blood, so they were exposed to like the hive mind. Um yeah, they found out that you could uh make food out of the synthesized food. Um I think that's game lore, but also movie lore, also. Um yeah, that's all I got. Good movie. I'd say eight out of ten. Um I th I think stuck in one place movie. I think eight out of it. I I personally think out of ten. I think I might be a little biased, but this one is better than all of the white bitches stuck in place movies.

SPEAKER_06

Um I would give buried like a six. I think if this is not a low A, it's a high B.

SPEAKER_02

I I agree with that. I think like low A high B is fair for this movie.

SPEAKER_07

Low. Low B, high A?

SPEAKER_02

Low low A, high B. Low A, high B. That's kind of where I think this movie sits. Um But again, I might be a little biased with it, because I I do just like Markiplier as a person. And I think uh I I I just I like the work that he does, so I I'm willing to support it. I like I said, I mean I I think there's definitely like things to critique, but I at that point you're just kind of getting into the minutiae of things, and like he's not I mean he is, but he's not an actor in that sense. Like he's definitely come a long way from where he was even like in his last project compared to this this last one. Um and I I mean I had a feeling that from this one he learned a lot. So I mean I am really excited. He's talked about like he's like, I'm actually gonna take a a break and actually just get back to YouTube for a bit, but we'll see how long that lasts. You know, this it it He always wants to do something. If there's anything I've learned about Markiplier, it's that this guy cannot stop working in any way. So he he is go go go on things. He said he's gonna take a break right now, but we'll see. Yeah, he's back to his numbers, dude. As like as somebody who's been a fan of him since uh probably like 2013, it was excruciating these last like three or four years getting really inconsistent video schedule from him. He's always been a little inconsistent on his video schedule, but uh it's been especially horrible these last three to four years. And he's mentioned it, he's like, it is baffling to me that I have not lost subscribers. He was like, I really he was like saying a lot of thank yous and just being like, I can't believe that you guys are still like sticking around through this. Like I know it sucks that like like I'm not releasing any videos, like it's rare I get to release them out because I'm stuck in Texas or some shit. Like working on the movie.

SPEAKER_05

You're like, Distractable's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, also okay, I'll give it a try. Huge fucking props to him. Although his YouTube channel uh videos were very inconsistent, he didn't miss I don't think a single podcast episode. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

And they were releasing like twice a week?

SPEAKER_02

They were doing twice a week up until you took us honeymoon recently. And then they did once a week.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, once a week now.

SPEAKER_02

Now that the movie's done. Like, that's crazy. He was doing podcasts, and he literally recorded podcast episodes from a bathtub. Oh, yeah, because he has uh go my favorite sports.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, thank you. And Power Wash Powers, by the way.

SPEAKER_02

But dude, the guy doesn't stop working.

SPEAKER_05

And he was releasing some YouTube videos. And he was working on a movie.

SPEAKER_02

And he has a clothing brand, yeah. The guy just doesn't stop working.

SPEAKER_05

And he has a wife.

SPEAKER_02

To be fair, she works with him, so that's another job.

SPEAKER_03

I wish I could be like that. When I grow up, I want to be a body.

SPEAKER_05

You are like that. When I grow up, I want to be like Markiplier. That's right. Vaguely Korean.

SPEAKER_06

Hey. He's not a bad role model.

SPEAKER_05

No. I th I yeah cut to it like a year from now. Markiplier found with eight terabytes of child pornography on the horrible form in his back.

SPEAKER_02

Some horrible fucking thing. No, that would be that would be heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_05

I legitimately blood for Iron Lung was sourced from babies.

SPEAKER_02

I legitimately don't know if I it like if if it if it came out like, oh, he's done this horrible thing, I'd be like, I don't believe you.

SPEAKER_06

I can't believe you. Guys, dead babies.

SPEAKER_05

No. We didn't talk about the coffee table.

SPEAKER_02

Nope. Okay. I feel like we should do that another day when we don't start so late.

SPEAKER_05

Everybody, it's a great movie. Nothing to do with dead babies. Go watch the coffee table.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_05

I watch it.

SPEAKER_02

I cannot do that to people. Uh that's a tough watch.

SPEAKER_05

That's the thing we were gonna do.

SPEAKER_02

We were supposed to do that movie last week, and I had to pivot, and that's why we didn't record last week, is because I watched that movie and then said, Oh, there's 0% chance we could talk about this movie on the podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I knew it was gonna I knew it was really bad when TJ texted in our group chat and said, I feel like I need to watch Bluey or some shit now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was it was a tough watch. Okay, so no, I I don't agree with TJ. I don't say just go watch the first 20 minutes of it. No, I say try to watch the movie, and most people don't finish the movie, and I understand why.

SPEAKER_03

So let's do this. Try and watch the movie, come back and leave a comment, a text, or email us at the boys at will you survive the podcast.com and let us know how far into the movie

Ratings And What Worked

SPEAKER_03

you made it.

SPEAKER_05

And that movie is called The Coffee Table. It is a Spanish movie released in 2023.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, 2022, 2023, one of those two.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. It's called the Coffee Table. You'll know it's the right one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I okay. Uh I I gotta be so honest though. Like, I'm warning you, this is that's a tough watch. That is not one to mess around with. That one was brutal.

SPEAKER_05

And guess what? I'm gonna cut out all seeing dead babies. Yeah, well, they're not gonna know. I'm not even gonna watch.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not even worried about that now. What I'm worried about is I the reason I didn't want to talk about that movie is that TikTok already hates us.

SPEAKER_09

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And there's no way they're gonna let us talk about that movie anymore.

SPEAKER_05

They popped up with that setting last time where it's like we'll auto-censor you, so yeah, I don't know how much they can auto-censor that. But if I say dead babies.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, well, yeah, well, there's a reason we didn't talk about there's a reason we didn't talk about that movie. Um But yeah, what Alex said, if you if you want a challenge, if you want to go watch that movie, go watch it. I will say, if we're well, since we're already freaking talking about it, since we've just devolved from Iron Lung, um what I will say about that movie is that the I looked it up on Reddit, and the re the reactions to that movie are incredibly mixed. It's like a third of people saying, What the hell did I just watch? Oh my god, that was horrific. Another third of people saying, Ha ha, that was the funniest movie I've ever seen. That was so fucking ridiculous, so stupid, ha ha ha ha. I was laughing the whole time. And then another third of people just being like, it has pacing issues, I got kind of bored, it's a little, it's okay.

SPEAKER_05

And I was in that first category and some change.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, I was like, I I'm in that first group where I was like, that was horrific. That was a horrible in the best way, horrible movie. Yeah, I'm like, uh, so the thing is like if you look it up, it's advertised as a dark comedy. Yeah. And on Reddit, it's funny. Like, people on Reddit are like, big emphasis on the dark part, because holy shit, like the humor in it, like from what I heard people describing, is that the humor in it is the fact that things just keep getting worse. And I'm like, I don't know if I necessarily find that like funny. Like, there's no part of me that really is like, oh my god, ha, it got even worse. Now his wife is about to find out that their baby died. Oh my gosh, like it didn't make me want to laugh at any point, and then there was like a couple of ironic parts that people were like, oh, that's the humor. And I'm like, I didn't really see that as humor as much as ironic. Like when it panned to the girlfriend's shirt and it said no bad days. I'm like, Jeez, that's it's ironic. I don't I and I I they like very intentionally panned the camera to that to show you that, but that didn't like make me laugh. I didn't see that and I wasn't like ha ha! Oh my gosh, look at that. It says no bad days, and the baby just died. That's so funny. So I'm like, I don't I don't feel like we didn't watch the same movie, Reddit.

SPEAKER_03

I would say it's it's one of those ironic statements, right? It's funny because it's

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SPEAKER_03

true, not ha ha funny. Right.

SPEAKER_02

But even that, like their whole point of like, oh, it's so funny because it just it keeps getting worse and worse for him. And I'm like, I don't know. I found it pretty horrific to be stuck in his mind with him for an hour. Like, that's what that director does so well in that in that movie. Like, if you do watch that movie, it is the first 20 minutes is you know, they build up the tension, and then after that, you spend the next hour being the only person with him that knows what happened. And for an hour, you are just well, uh, we should throw a spoiler alert at the beginning of this, TJ, because I really do feel like this is a movie that you should go into blind if you're gonna watch it. Any spoilers that come up, or just like put some sort of warning in the beginning that's like, hey, if you're going to watch this movie, don't listen to the rest of this yet. Listen to this after you watch the movie because it is better if you're going to watch this movie, if you want the challenge of watching this movie, it's better to go into it blind, or it's not gonna have the same effect that it normally would. But going back to what I was saying, like after that first 20 minutes uh of the tension building, now you spend the next hour stuck in this guy's mind with him, and you're the only other person who knows what happened besides him, and you're just watching this situation unfold, and it does keep getting worse. We're like, fuck, now there's people coming over. Like, fuck, now they want to go into the room, like, fuck, like it just keeps getting worse and worse where you you feel like the same tension and horror that he's feeling about this, about something that is but is not his fault. It was an accident, it wasn't anything on it, malicious in any way.

SPEAKER_05

Like, hey, I'm gonna geek.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like this was just a horrific accident. Is this was just a horrific accident, and I I don't know. I think the director did a great job. Like, there was moments where someone would tell a joke and he would like kind of like smirk for a little bit and smile, and I felt the exact same thing where I like felt a sense of a little bit of relief, and then it like immediately hits you again of like, but fuck.

SPEAKER_05

Fuck, there's driven coming from the other room.

SPEAKER_02

We know what that is, yeah, and you feel that with him where you're like, Oh, like a little bit of relief, and you're like, but it's not gone. And that spending an hour stuck in his head with him was brutal. Oh, and brutal I worked.

SPEAKER_05

That was the so hard multiple times. Uh I was talking to Eric about it. Um, and you s like it's at like 19 minutes and 40 seconds when the thing happens and you know, baby's crying stops, right? And then you see it roll under the chair from the hallway from like the back peel.

SPEAKER_02

Oh which are you kidding are you kidding me? The detail phenomenal and then also I love that. That's insane for how horrific that is, but like from a directing and a and a cinematic standpoint, to add that detail and the uh spatter the detail of this movie was insane.

SPEAKER_05

Very accurate, to my knowledge. It looks very accurate.

SPEAKER_02

The this movie was like it was actually so well done. It was so horrific, and I think that's why a lot of people it was also a Spanish movie, so I think that's why a lot of people didn't watch it or didn't have it didn't have the same effect on them, but I I truly think this was a phenomenal movie. It was just so hard to get there. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, my personal opinion, the 13-year-old deserved it. Everybody else is a victim. You wanna go start shit like that? No, you deserve to see that. You deserve to now have a panic attack. You're not gonna watch this, right? No. There is there's this little girl who lives upstairs, she's like 13. The guy is like pushing 40, if not in his 40s. And she is like, I know you're into me. I know you want to fuck me. Like, she literally says that at one point, and he is like, What are you talking about? And she was like, You tried to kiss me in the elevator. He goes, No, you tried to kiss me in the elevator, and she was like, Well, because you were sending me love poems, and he goes, Because you said you had a school project on love poems and asked for recommendations, so I sent you love poems from a book, and she was like, Well, you need to tell your wife about us, and he's like, No.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, Alex didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_02

And so all that, like, that's in the beginning. No, he didn't watch it. I'm not, yeah, he's not going to. That's why I just asked him, Are you gonna watch it? And he said, No, so that's what I'm telling him. Um, but then that thing with the baby happens, so he has to clean it. He doesn't have any cleaning supplies, so he goes upstairs, and she's like, Well, you need to tell your wife about us. He's like, Fine. He's like, I'll tell my wife about us because he has much bigger fish to fry at that point. Gets the cleaning supplies, so then at the end of all this, um the the guy's brother and the brother. Girlfriend are having dinner with them. Yeah. The brother now knows what happened.

SPEAKER_05

The girls don't know what sees it, and the dude, where is the top? And he's like, it's under the chair.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so the brother says, like, okay, here's what we're gonna do. He's like, we can't hide this anymore. Like, this can't be hidden anymore. Your wife needs to know. And he's he's basically saying, like, look, under no circumstances can she see this. So we're gonna go to the table, we're gonna sit down, you're gonna shut up, and I'm going to tell her what happened. And we're gonna go from there. And that's what's gonna happen. Well, then they get out, uh, or while they're having that conversation, it goes to a different camera where the little girl's knocking on the door. The mom opens, and the little girl's like, Oh, like, is your husband home? And she goes, Yeah, but now's not really a good time. And the little girl's like, We need to talk, and she's like, No, it's not a good time. And she's like, We need to talk, this is important, and she's like, No, like, go back home, no, and she's like, Your husband tried to kiss me. Uh and she was like, Okay, well then I guess you are coming inside. So she comes inside with her dog, sets the dog down, the dog goes sniffing around the chair, while the little girl, the the dad walks out, the brother walks out, the dog starts sniffing around the chair, the brother's like, get your fucking dog. And the dog starts barking, the brother's freaking out, the dog starts pulling out the head. So then the brother picks up the head and starts trying to hide it, and and this is like this is literally all in the last five minutes of the movie. So, like, you've been stuck in the head of this guy for an hour who's been trying to hide this. Um, the brother's trying to hide the head, the mom's like, What the fuck is that? And he's like, You can't see this, you need to just leave. And she's like, No, I'm not leaving. And she's like, You he's like, you need to just leave. And the little girl's like, It's a head! And so she's like freaking out. This so after all this happens, uh the big spoiler alert, but basically mom and dads the head from the ball.

SPEAKER_05

They off themselves and then um they jump off the balcony while crying, walks to the balcony, walks to the balcony and then he follows after.

SPEAKER_02

Um and then the there's two at the end, there's two cops talking about what happened, and one of them is saying that uh uh they're like, Yeah, there was a 13-year-old girl, she had a panic attack, she's at the hospital being treated for that. So, out of everybody in the situation, in my opinion, little girl deserved it. You want to start shit like that? You want to start making accusations like that? No, you 100% deserve that whole thing. I don't I think she said like she was like, oh, I no, I think because like she was like, Oh, we need to tell you something, and the wife was like, No, now's not a good time, go home. And then that's when she was I think she said, Your husband kissed me on the lift. Is what she said. Which And that's when the mom was like, Okay, well now I have to let you in the wall, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_05

You have some do you have something to tell me? Right? And they're they're thinking not alive baby.

SPEAKER_02

She's thinking the that so and then the like I no, I don't even think they I don't think they were thinking that to be honest. I I think like obviously the dad knew right away, but I think the dad was like, no, there's much bigger fish to fry right here. Like nothing this little girl has to say fucking matters right now. Yeah, like I don't think at all they were like, oh, she knows, like, because how would the little girl know? But and why would the mom be so calm about it? Right. But the mom was like, you have something to tell us, and the dad is like brothers kind of goaded. Oh, like this is the worst timing for this to be happening. Oh dude, fucking W brother. The brother was a fucking beast the whole time. He was trying his absolute best. So basically, brother's probably I think older than dad. So brother's like 40. Girlfriend's girlfriend's 14, by the way. He's a bit of a fuck up. He's dating an 18-year-old.

SPEAKER_09

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Dating an 18-year-old. Then he announces at the dinner table to them he got her pregnant.

SPEAKER_09

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

They're all excited. The mom, who was earlier in the movie to dad, was saying, like, uh, like, oh, your fucking pedo brother dating a fucking 18-year-old. And now she's playing diplomat at the table, and she's like, Oh my god, that's that's so exciting, guys. Wow, like, you know, having a baby is incredible because she still thinks her baby's alive at this point. She's like, having a baby is incredible. And then at s at some point, brother loses it, uh or or dad loses it, and he's like, No, you're a fuck up. Like, you fucked up, and now this is your latest fuck up. You got an 18-year-old pregnant, you ruined her life, you complicated yours. Great job. He's like, I I need to go to the bathroom. And so that's when he goes to the bathroom, starts recording a off myself note um on his phone, and it's like I just I couldn't do it anymore. I'm so sorry. And then the brother walks up, and because the brother was telling the wife, like, hey, let me go talk to him. Like, clearly something's up. Goes in and it's like, who is that note for? Or who's that that voice note for? And then that's when the brother tells him, like, I can't do it anymore. And he like he tells him what happened, and so they go to the room, and the brother looks at the headless in the crib. Um, and he and that's when like he's in fucking shock at this point, and he's like, and that's when like that that's where I'm saying, like, he's like fucking W brother the whole time was like, I'm gonna help you, I'm gonna take care of this. Yeah, he was like, shut up, and like the the dad was like, I can't do it. Like, I just I need to end it all. And the brother was like, shut up, like, stop, let me think. You're not being rational right now. You need to just just stop. And that's when he he comes up with a plan where he's like, You need to shut up. We're gonna go sit down at the table. I'm going to tell her what happened because she's gonna come and try to breastfeed him in 10 minutes. So, and she can't see this. So that was like the brother was like trying so hard to hold this together and to be strong in this moment and to try and give this information out. And and then that little girl came in and destroyed all of that, and it ends with the brother in the back of a police car just like staring, like clearly just in the worst shock. Like, it's it's a brutal movie. But the small detail is not for me. That is it's such a hard movie to watch. That's it's so it's such a phenomenal detail, but yeah, that's what you're just thinking about it the whole time.

SPEAKER_05

It's so bad. It's in the crib and it's under the chair. It's under the chair, she's next to the chair.

SPEAKER_02

It's yes, it's but that's what I mean. Like, you're stuck in his brain for an hour with him where you also have that anxiety where you're like, oh my god, like they're gonna fucking see it, they're gonna see it. I I'm not gonna lie, like the longer it went on, the worse it got. Because I'm like, if he just told her, if he just told her right away, I know like it would still be awful, but like the second the brother found out me, I felt a massive weight fall off of my shoulder. I don't know what it was, like, I think I know what it was, but like I was stuck in his brain for an hour with him in this movie, and it was horrifying. It was miserable, and I was so anxious the whole time I was watching it. The second the brother knew, it was like I could breathe again. I was like, oh my god, like somebody else knows it's not just me. And like that just oh my gosh, I felt like the fucking weight of the world fall off of my shoulder for a second.

SPEAKER_05

Holy shit, like uh that hour in this movie, uh, don't get a glass coffee table. It's like rule number one as a parent. Uh glass coffee tables are a no-no, even if you don't drop your baby on it, the baby will start to walk and then headbutt it. But they like to hit their head on things. Um also that coffee table, ugly as fuck.

SPEAKER_06

My head on the corner of a glass table once.

SPEAKER_03

I got I got wooden tables in my baby's head on it.

SPEAKER_06

Zero out of ten coffee table.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I mean we gave our thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_02

Now that we derailed Iron Lung and talked about that for 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_03

I think uh Or what you got another two episodes or something.

SPEAKER_02

Well, to wrap up to wrap up Iron Lung, um, I think eight out of ten, Al or Alex thinks six out of ten, TJ thinks eight out of ten. Um we might be slightly biased, but I think overall really good movie. I I really do enjoy the I wish more movies would go back to showing more detail in silence. Show me rather than tell me. You don't need to tell me four times that something happened in order for me to get it. Because I I do like that when I've seen a movie once, it's like, oh shoot, I missed that. And then I go back and I watch it and I'm like, wow, there's so much detail that I didn't notice the first time. I think that's cool. I like that in movies where it because it's like it also makes you want to watch it again. Uh where you you keep watching and you keep learning new things about it. That's interesting to me. That's cool. Um, those are my final thoughts. Any final thoughts on Iron Lung?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I thought it was entertaining. It was. I know there's a lot of critics who thought that it was uh slow paced. I didn't get that feeling. I recognize the term slow burn. Uh I will admit that it was a slow burn. It was intended to get you to a point, it got you there. It has a beginning, a middle, and an end. It's a well-thought-out, well-put together movie. I'm not complaining about it in in those senses. I'm I'm not biased. I I didn't even know that this was Markiplier. I had to look it up. And uh once I started researching the the movie more fully was when I realized and also I didn't know it was Markiplier, I knew it was Mark Fishbach, and I didn't know that that was Markiplier until I got to IMDB and saw that he is Markiplier. And that made me laugh. I was like, oh, that's why these guys recommended this movie. Uh I think he did a great job as an actor. I would love to see his other movie that you said he did.

SPEAKER_02

Uh he's so yeah. A show? So he did a show. Uh I prefer the podcast, uh, but yeah, it's a show called The Edge of Sleep. Um it I think it's on Prime. It's 20 minutes per episode. Uh it's like a limited series, like an eight-episode series. I thought the podcast version of it, which was like an audio uh voice acting version of the of the show, which is also done by Mark. I thought it was really good. I I really liked it. I didn't finish the show because I I'm not gonna lie, yeah, I've found it difficult to watch his acting in the show.

SPEAKER_03

Um well then he he did a step up, right? The show was filmed.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, this movie is bounds better acting-wise. I think he learned a lot. Yeah, I think he learned a lot about acting in the last five years, and it it shows in this movie. He he definitely has made massive bounds in his acting skills.

SPEAKER_03

Because I will say, outside of the movie now, now I'm not watching it, I can understand the points that TJ was making about some of the there was

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SPEAKER_03

uh some slop with some of his acting, but I didn't notice it in the time as I was watching. It kept me engaged. Uh I didn't fall out and think that like who is this actor ever. I thought that he kept me believing that he was this prisoner Simon the whole time, the whole way through.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I think that makes sense because like I said, like TJ and I have been watching him forever. We've known him as Markiplier for so long that it it is really hard now. And even like I've known him as Markiplier even in his big projects he's done with like a heist with markiplier, which was this two of those massive uh choose your own adventure style with like like it's like 50 something, like fifty it's like fifty to like a hundred different endings and and like it's it's crazy. He also did in space with Markiplier, which is but yeah, which is like the same choose your adventure type thing where like he released like a bunch of YouTube videos that are all part of this one big project where basically like you watch the first one, it's a scene, and then at the very end, you pick one of the two options, and that leads to an X scene, and then you go through that, and then it leaves you with two options to pick, and then you it's like two videos pop up, and you click which one you want to go to to continue the story. And you Nate.

SPEAKER_03

Nate. That's pretty cool. I I've always wanted to do something like that. I should watch him.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so he's done multiple projects. Like he did like a date with Markiplier, which was like a much smaller version of this. He did uh what was the one like um the Who Killed Markiplier? That was a long time ago. That was like 2016, 2017. Um God, that was 10 years ago. Oh my. But um, so he's done like he started doing like these big projects that were in now, considering he's done a movie, relatively very small, contained projects that took like maybe a week to a week to film and then like you know, like a month of editing, versus this this movie that took him, I don't even know how long to film, and God knows how long he spent editing, because he was saying he was working like 12 hour, 15 hour days, and the guy clearly never stops working. Um But yeah, I I I am really excited to see if he does decide to do another movie, what he would do. Um, because like I said, I think this movie just showed that his directing and his acting skills have just made bounds of improvement over the last couple years, and I I can only imagine what he would do next.

SPEAKER_06

I I'm hoping he does more.

SPEAKER_05

Edited himself, and he uh he was charge of like a lot of the editing himself. Theaters. There's no studio, it's just him. Yeah. He was just like, hey guys, everybody did all the publishing and distributing everybody who watched the phone. He did all the marketing, publishing, and distributing and then he was like a map up of which theaters were showing it, and then it was just getting f more and more filled like every day. Because it was only like ten.

SPEAKER_03

Well, according to IMDB, this guy was a uh relatively large box office hit for being a film.

SPEAKER_02

With also the budget that it had he made like six times the budget in in opening weekend.

SPEAKER_05

It beat one he went below him, and then he beat him again.

SPEAKER_03

Nice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Iron Lung was number one on the charts for like a like a weekend or a week. It was like it was something like kind of crazy. And this was right when some big films came out, and he topped them. At one point, like he topped them, and then at one point it just completely disappeared off the list. And he was like, Oh, like what the fuck was that about? And then it came back on the list, and he's like, What the fuck happened? But like they basically like took the movie off the list entirely and then put it back. But either way, I think pretty great movie, cool concept. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Cool concept, creepy, gave all the right vibes, not too many jump scares, but uh, I mean, it was I don't think it was intended to be. It was more of a sci-fi suspense thriller than a horror movie. Yeah. And um, I thought well done, good job, Markiplier. Hope you hear this. That would mean that we're on our way up.

SPEAKER_05

Dude, they got a point system, which like crazy. Also, who won? Yeah, ignore that. They don't really follow, and they have a constitutional. They have a point system that they also don't really follow.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. They're just like us that they also don't follow. We do loosely base the podcast off of this chapter.

SPEAKER_03

Speaking of which, yeah, who's the winner?

Socials Winner And Next Movie Pick

SPEAKER_02

Uh well, first, why don't you read us to socials?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, well, everybody, please make sure you go check us out on all of our socials. You'll find us on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, anywhere else that you'll find us, just search Will You Survive the Podcast. We also have an X account, which I've been live tweeting during this. We'll make a personal uh podcast of followers. I will make a solid effort of doing that in the future. That's pretty cool. Uh I will try to Thanks. Nice. Thank you for sharing that. Uh then then uh then the boys at will you uh the boys at WYS will be inundated with uh oh fucking yeah the reference uh yeah I remember it and Chudai and Chudai uh which kind are you didn't you say that last week? That's what it was That's what he said we're gonna uh so we'll be inundated with that when uh your X account joins the boys at WYS Gooncast. Okay, we'll make sure that I don't call you that. But I'll try to uh I'll be trying to at least live tweet while we're recording. And uh several times through the week, I'd like to say some things. Sometimes I have some hot takes. We'll try to do that. Um yeah, I think that's most of the socials except for our email. I did shout it out once earlier in the episode. Please send us your emails to the boys at Will You Survive the Podcast.com, T H E P O Y S at Will You Survive The Podcast dot com Cool That was that was a legit sponsorship.

SPEAKER_04

No sponsor at all.

SPEAKER_02

You did, Gene. You're welcome. I'm trying to think who won the last episode. You did. No, I'm sorry, I meant who ho who hosted last episode. Yeah, thanks for telling me, guys. Remind me who won last episode. I got a better movie idea than he does. It was you, right, TJ? He does have a really good movie idea. Do you have a good movie idea or a good idea?

SPEAKER_03

No, I don't have any idea.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Do you like the book of Eli?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, that's his movie suggestion, so I kind of feel like I might go with him with Alex just so we can watch that movie.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not okay. Okay, so here's my dilemma. My dilemma is I love Alex, and I feel like I'm biased in this movie specifically because you and I are both Market Plier fans and we agreed on the rating. But I also feel bad because I feel like because we are best friends outside of the podcast that I often pick you because we just agree a lot.

SPEAKER_06

I d I think he won last season, so you know. I think he was so far from winning last season.

SPEAKER_02

Did you win last season? I don't think no.

SPEAKER_10

I think he was last place. I think I was the furthest distant.

SPEAKER_03

I think the last place. Josh was ahead of me.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, he wasn't. But I do think he was last place.

SPEAKER_10

He I uh he's also bald. It's always the bald guy. Bald, bald oh man.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, well Alec Alex ferociously typing on X right now. These cheating bastards.

SPEAKER_04

Why they always gotta pick on the bald guy? That's literally what I just said.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Well, uh I'm not gonna be called baldist, so I think the winner of today's episodes, uh, or today's episode, uh I think for the fact that it was a fresh watch for him with no uh prior experience of who Markiplier is, so he kind of did get the most like objective rating. I'm gonna go with Alex on this one.

SPEAKER_03

And you know what, guys? I have the greatest idea for Mark. Oh my gosh. That's I love that movie, dude. I can't believe I didn't think of that idea. I don't think you guys have ever heard of it.

SPEAKER_06

Dude, I love that movie earlier. What a great idea.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, I love that movie.

SPEAKER_02

I can't believe you didn't think of that idea either. This is why, this is why you win the big ones.

SPEAKER_05

This is post-apocalyptic. I I don't know how we didn't do it.

SPEAKER_03

It's funny because I was talking about that earlier this week with someone else, and I was like, Oh, I freaking love that movie. Great movie.

SPEAKER_06

That's valid.

SPEAKER_03

But I forgot about it again.

SPEAKER_02

We watched Fury Road. And then after that, Mad Max.

SPEAKER_03

Ooh, that's disgusting.

SPEAKER_02

I was kind of joking, but I oh, I was joking, but okay.

SPEAKER_03

And then after that, Waterworld. I thought you were. Now we're joking. That's not real. That's not real.

SPEAKER_02

And then after that, we just watched Shark. Shark Tank, we watched Shark Tank.

SPEAKER_03

Um Shark Week's legit.

SPEAKER_05

I thought you said Shark Tank. Shark. So Sharks. We watch Shark Tales. Sharkbait. I'll give you ten dollars for 100% of your company. Deal. There you go.

SPEAKER_02

Alright. Anyways, host. I got ten dollars. Alright, guys. Well, thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you for listening to this episode. Uh yeah, if uh let us know how you feel about Iron Lung uh in our email or our comments or wherever you can get a hold of us on our Instagram and whatnot. Uh let us know what you thought of Iron Lung, cause I genuinely thought it was a pretty good movie. Uh it seems like TJ also thought so. Um, I'm just curious uh if there's anything we missed or if there's any lore or something that somebody knows, because I know there's a lot, so that'd be interesting to know. Interesting. Interesting. Okay, well, until next time, everybody. Uh good luck out there. Good luck with that movie we suggested, and stay alive.