Will You Survive "As Above So Below " pt 1

Paris has a world beneath it that most people never see, and As Above So Below turns that fact into a horror movie that feels uncomfortably plausible. We talk through why this 2014 found footage cult favorite still works, from its clean adventure-style opening to the moment the catacombs stop being a setting and start acting like a judge. If you’ve ever searched for an As Above So Below explanation, a Paris catacombs horror movie review, or a breakdown of “what the ending means,” we get into the psychological mechanics that make the fear stick.

We also dig into character choices that make the descent hit harder, especially Scarlet’s switch between polished, on-camera confidence and the pushy, messy human you see when things go wrong. The catacombs play like a Dante’s Inferno style “personal hell,” where guilt and regret show up as obstacles, and we connect that idea to other stories that treat hell as a loop you build for yourself. Along the way we hit trivia, including how much the real catacombs location adds to the claustrophobic realism, and why a movie can be great even if its tagline is questionable.

Then we do what we always do and turn horror into survival talk. We argue about rope climbing technique, energy management, and how exhaustion changes what’s “possible,” plus what claustrophobia does to decision-making when the walls close in. From there, the conversation escalates into pressure nightmares: what vacuum exposure in space can feel like, why deep-sea pressure accidents are so instantly lethal, and how those fears rhyme with the movie’s worst moments. We even end up on ocean mysteries like the Bloop because, honestly, the unknown is the point.

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Transcript

Calm Start And Quick Catch-Up

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Hello, survivors, and welcome back to another episode of Will You Survive Podcast. And today we're keeping it calm, cool, and collected. That's that's all the energy we're on today. And today we're just gonna have a conversation. Not a yap sesh. That was last episode. Please go watch it. It was And maybe next episode. Maybe next episode. Please go. Please go. Let's do that.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

We didn't just talk about computers for an hour.

SPEAKER_03 0:51

We just talked. The whole Yap sesh was just us talking about Resident Evil and then like random stuff about your work.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

And then like on, let me tell you something. Just in case you didn't pay attention. I know you guys don't look at the stats very much on the socials, but one of the conversations we had that I clipped up and put up there on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube. It's uh blown up by our standards. Uh the thermobaric bomb discussion. The uh the other one, the one I see that's doing the best on TikTok is our conversation about Leon. People like Leon.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

People do like Leon. You know, here I'll give you a clip right now. Oh my god, Leon is so hot as a straight man. I think Leon is so hot. It would be so it would suck so much. TJ said that. It would suck so much. He's married. All the girls who are super into Leon listen to this clip. He's married. That would just suck. I would hate that.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

But this is what you said by the podcast. My name is TJ. I'm joined by my two co-hosts. We've got Alex and we've got Eric. Say hello, boys.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

I'm Alex.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

And I'm Eric. Um, you will never get their voices confused. Eric is the I'm Eric. Alex is the I'm

Why We Pick This Movie

SPEAKER_03 2:05

Alex.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

What did I what did I do?

SPEAKER_03 2:07

What the f minus one commute to Eric. Oh, damn. Uh, today we're talking about the movie As Above So Below. It is a 2014 movie. Uh, that there was a fucking tie-in with PewDiePie. Do you remember that, Eric? Do you remember PewDiePie going into the catacombs? I was never a big you were never a pre Pew That dude, that shit got me hella hype back when PewDiePie didn't say the N-word. Anyways, um, that's when I started like no I'm kidding. The reason the reason we're watching we watch this movie is because we recently watched a movie called The Tunnel, and we multiple times in that episode were like, hey, this is just a shitty version of S Above So Below. And Alex hasn't seen it. So the first thing I want to say is, Alex, what did you think of the movie?

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Here's here's my hot take.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

You guys may not fully agree with this, but you lie right now through your teeth, I swear.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

I think we have our first dog water movie in our next tier list.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Oh, the tunnel.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

So you see, we were being generous by saying C.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Yeah. Uh I mean, I what what I would say is you were accurate. I enjoyed the movie, The Tunnel. I enjoyed it. It was it was a fun little ride, but they and I did look and see that it came out first, so yeah, forgive them for it. Uh, this uh this director who we actually know from uh well, I don't know if you ever saw Quarantine. That's the Americanized version of Wreck. Yeah. So he did he was the director for that.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

I've seen both on late night TV.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Um he was also the director for the Poughkeepsie tapes, which I haven't seen, but I want to watch. That's a tough one.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

So Alex wins this one and we watch that next, or I'll be down to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

I I think you've heard about it because of I never even heard of it.

SPEAKER_03 4:06

The uh the podcast me and Eric listen to uh Meat Canyon has referenced it multiple times. So I've got it.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

If I've heard it before, it's never like registered as anything to me, so I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

It's a serial killer in Poughkeepsie, New York who films his activities and investigators come upon the abandoned house that have all of the tapes in it. Oh is a movie? Yeah. Okay based on true events? Yeah, I mean it could be. So this movie. Um several things I enjoyed about it. It was I don't know if you I don't know if you caught on to this, but main character, Scarlet. She was very what is the word? What is the word? And when she's in front of the camera, she's very charismatic, she's very polished, she's very uh she's got it all together. And then when they show her like, quote, off camera, I mean she of course she's on camera all of the time, but like when she stood and did the documentary type presentations versus when she was in the nightclub talking to the the guy that she needed to find, uh, versus when she was, of course, when all hell broke loose.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

I loved her line in the club where he was like, Do I look like a tour guide? Or do I look like a tourist? Like a guide for tourists, and she goes, Do I look like a tourist?

SPEAKER_01 5:25

So that was uh I saw I'm gonna say it kind of roughly because I thought I thought they did a a good job at this. She was so much more annoying. And the reason why I use the term annoying is when she was off camera. Okay, you know, of course, once again, for all of those who are gonna criticize my speech, uh, not off-camera because she was never off camera, but when she wasn't in that professional stance.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Yeah, the point is she's not talking to the camera, right? She's doing something.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

There you go. When she wasn't talking to the camera, she was a normal human being, and you saw her be annoying, you saw her be pushy, you saw her be bossy.

SPEAKER_00 6:01

Oh, like with that, with her friend, with her friend, constantly just being like, ah, he's in, he's in. And he's like, I'm not going. It was, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

And that was that was a tough one. Um, let me ask. I don't know, I don't know your familiarity. I don't know either of your familiarity, but do you guys know it? Yeah. Stephen King's It.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

We both see all film parts, right? Old and new.

SPEAKER_01 6:23

Kids fuck at the old and new. So yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

You you even read the book. I know of that. I haven't read it, but I know of that. Um because I've heard all the people being like, what the fuck, King?

SPEAKER_03 6:36

Dude, which is funny because he was on a lot of that uh He was.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Yeah, because a lot of uh I mean when I was a kid and I read it, it didn't bother me.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Yeah, because you're a kid and you're like, oh yeah, we do that.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

But then you realize like this was a grown-ass man who I remember my brother was the one who had said, Oh yeah, you know, I never could get into that. You know, the the kids have a uh they have a an OG session and I was like, no, they don't. He's like, Yeah, they do. Now, mind you, I had read this book many, many times, and I don't remember. And I go and look into it, I was like, holy crap, he's right. They have a full-on OG session. So in any case, in this movie, I thought that there was a little bit of uh I wouldn't call it a tie-in, but it got very close with the with her friend uh seeing his brother down there and he's trying to to get at him. Uh that's the thing that that's the thing that I I saw. I started putting that piece together because it was in reality, as above so below, it was their own personal hell.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Yeah, it was kind of like a Dante's Inferno thing, which was very much like it.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

You it was your fears, what you were afraid of is what it presented itself as. You know, kind of what this was doing. You guys ever heard of the show Lucifer?

SPEAKER_03 7:52

I've heard of Yeah, the one where he's Lucifer.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Yeah, he is the devil. And he is in LA because he's basically like, I don't want to run hell anymore, I'm bored. And he just wants to own a nightclub, and he's the sweet innocent devil. Um, it is a funny show though, but uh when when he show or when the show shows you what hell is in this universe, uh Lucifer explains to someone, he's like, I can't take you out of hell, I can't put you in heaven. Only you could do that, but you won't do that. And their hell is literally just a loop of their worst memory, and it never stops. And Lucifer is like, I can't change this for you. I don't do anything, I just run the place. I don't make your hell or anything, you do that. And there's I think one person in the show who spoiler alert, it's an old show, but someone who uh is able to get out of hell because they basically like by talking to Lucifer figure out like that they're the ones torturing themselves. But it's this whole thing, like I've noticed that kind of theme throughout a lot of shows where it's like hell is your own what you make it.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

That was kind of this. They were they were trapped and their fears were coming upon them. Now, uh, shall I read the storyline here?

SPEAKER_03 9:08

You should. I do want to add that it this was kind of like you know, like Dante's Inferno, like seven layers. Yeah. Pretty sick. I do, I really like this movie. That's what I got from this. Anyways, read the synopsis.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Miles of twisting catacombs lie beneath the streets of Paris, the eternal home to countless souls. When a team of explorers ventures into the uncharted maze of bones, they uncover the dark secret that lies within this city of the dead. A journey into madness and terror. As above, so below reaches deep into the human psyche to reveal the personal demons that come back to haunt us all. And I think that's a very good description of this movie. I thought it was the right amount of scary. You notice that there wasn't really too much of uh jump scares going on, but they kept you on the edge of your seat the whole time. Would you guys agree?

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Yeah. Yeah, I I think that this movie has a really solid build. Like it I think that the whole like her getting that information from the Iranian uh tunnels or wherever she was, like that whole start to the movie is really nice. It's like a

Personal Hell And Dante Vibes

SPEAKER_00 10:18

it starts, it doesn't start too slow, but it also doesn't just like throw us into it. It gives us like a bit of action in the beginning, like a real dramatic, like I got this piece of information I've been going after forever. Like now this kind of unlocks everything. And it it kind of so that when the slower part happens, which is her going to talk to her friend, going to to the museum, going and talking to the the guide, all that, it doesn't feel so slow. I think if they would have just started there, it would feel like a bit of a slow buildup. I don't know, but also like maybe I'm completely wrong because it doesn't, it really doesn't they don't spend that long outside of the catacombs.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

No, they they lead you. I I I thought that they led you the right way because you had to learn what you had to learn. Why was she like this? She's and it was a little fun in the sense that for me, you guys are might be too young or not care about this, but to me it was the dark side of Indiana Jones. You know, you never see Indiana.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

I think like Laura Croft.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

That's what I mentioned to Eric is uh it gives me like Tomb Raider vibes.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Yeah. But it's like how dark it could have gotten. Right. And so uh, but in real life, did you guys know that this was the first film ever to get permission from uh the French government to use the catacombs? Yeah. That's really cool. I didn't know that. So there was no uh well, not no, there was very little props used. Uh there was only one door, one entrance that they were allowed to use by a hospital, which was interesting that they I don't know if they made that story to fit their their entrance. That the um uh you guys remember we read this, the guy who got lost in the catacombs and died.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

Um like 20 feet or something from the staircase.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Uh one of the other things, what did they say? Uh uh as above so below, it was her quote. As above so below, um the world is as I believe it is. The world the world is as I I think that's what she said.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Yeah, something along those lines.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

And uh so in any case, they actually went quite a ways into these tunnels and to go down. You know, that I think that was also part of their tagline. The only way out is down.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

Yeah, I think TJ was saying that that was the fucking the dumbest fucking thing. That was it. Not every movie needs a tagline.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Probably the worst part of this movie was its tagline.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

I actually do agree with that. I I don't think every movie needs a tagline, but I do remember when this movie came out, I was 13. Uh when this movie came out, I was hype. I was like, I was like, this movie looks scary. No, it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

And I watched it and I was like catacombs, you know?

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Yeah, great movie. And you know, I was a little worried. We rated it. I I've watched it as an adult before recently, and I remember I was like, Yeah, this holds up. But I think did we put it in iconic or did we put it in S? What? Uh as Above So Below. I think we put it in Iconic, right? We haven't rated it yet. Oh, we didn't, that's right. We you talked about it.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

That's how we got onto this whole That's right. Yeah, oh my god. Because you I think you said you were shocked that we hadn't watched this movie yet.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

Apparently I still thought we watched it, but maybe that was just me watching it in my free time.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Yeah, I think I did the same. Well, it's not. Did we watch it together?

SPEAKER_03 13:39

Oh, we think we did.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

I think that's what happened. I think we we watched it just randomly, and so we thought we did it for the podcast. It's not a bad movie. I mean, it this would be worth watching again. Uh, there's a few things that I would look a little closer at. Um, I did read, you know, I'm always uh trying to get caught up on information for the podcast. One of the things that I read was that the goof is uh Nicholas Flamel's poem should not have rhymed in English. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, movies. Movies. It was just, you know, it's just quick writing. They made it. Um most people wouldn't have caught that. IMDB ratted them out.

SPEAKER_03 14:19

They were actually in the catacombs, which is funny because everybody in the catacombs, like all the dead bodies, probably didn't know what the I don't think cameras were out then. So this is probably the first movie they've been in. Uh the wow, I hope morbid. I hope they got credited, you know? We all get their saga. Imagine at the end it's just every name of the No, wait.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

I don't think extras need their SAG cards. You're right. Unless they need the bones start talking.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Unless you speak. Yeah. Somebody they're all French, which are basically not people, so does France even have SAG?

SPEAKER_01 14:54

Does does Fran does anybody even care about France?

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Well, easy answer, no, but um I mean it's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

This says that this was the first film production ever to secure permission from the French government. They probably just went and demanded it. They're like going with the catacombs of this.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Okay, okay, white flag. They actually were like, hey, we were really hoping we could use the catacombs and go, we're surrender!

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Like, oh, okay. They raised the white flag. Was she uh was she a Brit? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

That's why it gives me fucking Laura Croft vibes. I don't know if she was a Brit, but I will tell you she was pretty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:32

I really think she should have been in the freaking Tomb Raider movie that came out around the year. There there was another like the remake one that like the new one. There was some other chick that I did not watch it. But I feel like I didn't even know there was a remake.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Yeah, has this girl done anything else that we know?

SPEAKER_01 15:50

No, nothing that I know.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

She was a good actress.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Let me see. I hooked her up.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

That's the most important thing. And that's what makes a good actress. No, I'm kidding. If they're pretty. I think she was a really good actress. I really like this movie.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Perdita Weeks. Yeah, there's like no point in the movie where there's no point in the. Oh my god, she okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, she has done uh Ready Player One. Oh, okay. Who is she? Uh I wouldn't know the names anyways. That's Kira.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Okay. She's not like a main person.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

I didn't even know that they did this. They did a remake of Magnum PI. I didn't know that. Oh, she was in uh she was in one episode of Hawaii 5.0. Oh, I've seen a lot of that, but I wouldn't remember. Juliet Higgins. That was in 2020. Of course, I just said Ready Player One. Oh, I don't know the other ones. I don't know any of these others.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Anyway, somebody give this chick some more jobs. She she the put her in the Tomb Raider movie. New one. Come on, Hollywood. You like fucking up video game movies.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

I know they really do. There's there's a there's a lot they could do in video games that I think would be worth it. Um although I am gonna say the exact opposite on one particular one. Instead of doing a TV series on Thirteen Ghosts, where they're going to uh give each of the 13 ghosts their own storyline. Uh I wish that would have been a video game. Wait for what? Thirteen Ghosts.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

What is that?

SPEAKER_01 17:22

You don't know that one? Um Matthew Matthew Lillard. Um Shaggy. Tony Shaloub, yeah, Shaggy from Scooby-Doo. It's a movie? It's a movie. Uh what's what's the girl's name? Shannon Elizabeth. No, I don't know that one. Uh so in any case, the there's a person who owns a big fancy mansion. Uh, he was a ghost hunter. He passes away, he bequeaths his mansion to his nephew, who is played by Tony Shaloub, and his two kids. They're they're struggling because the kid's mom, his wife, had just passed away in a house fire. They go to this mansion, it's a strange designed mansion with symbols and writings all over these glass walls. It's a fully glass house. And little did they know that this was all a setup. Get them there. And the idea was to capture and trap a 13th ghost that was an act of sacrifice, and the not creator, I forget, I don't know what to call him, the curator, if you will, would gain eternal life from this, and he would have major control over the world. It was a very uh fun concept. That's interesting. 13 ghosts had some good scary moments. I'd never even heard of it.

SPEAKER_03 18:38

So we've talked about the beginning of the movie, yeah. Uh when they're the let's

Real Catacombs Facts And Trivia

SPEAKER_03 18:44

talk about like where when they're going into the tunnel. Cop just came out of nowhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Yeah, not not a not a pre-word, not a hey, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Straight to just straight to slamming motherfuckers on the ground.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

That's crazy. Just immediately. This was in France, and they want to talk about American police.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

But he wasn't French, he was German.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

The cop? Yeah, all that checks out. I'm pretty sure I thought I saw him do a weird.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

I don't know. I've watched videos on the that's crazy. Uh I've watched videos on the turcombs, and that's a legitimate entrance. Like I've seen it in YouTube videos.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Well, the cops tackle the shit out of you in that entrance.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

I don't know if I've seen that, but I've I've definitely seen that entrance in that tunnel. Like it's an actual like place you can go. Wait, not legally.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Were they allowed to film that and like they just didn't actually go in there?

SPEAKER_03 19:33

Oh no, they went in. They went in. Or actually entrance in that. There are like legitimate, like they there's like there's like little landmarks inside of the catacombs that like you can see in this movie that are legitimate, like well-documented places that are in there. Like there's like a little like theater area and quotations, shit like that.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

Could you imagine if somebody was just exploring those areas and they came across them filming this and like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Yeah, right. So it's it's uh apparently it's was sh closed from November 2025 till April 2026 for renovation, but it's open for tourism.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Yeah, that's so cool. I I do think that that's like one of those spots kind of like Auschwitz that I'm like, I I do want to go see it at some point, but it feels like it's kind of a really solemn, deep thing to go see. So it's like you gotta kind of mentally prepare yourself for that.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

I I think so. I mean, it was not the not the same thing, same thing, only different going to New York City and visiting the uh 9-11 memorial. Exactly. It's not something tragic, you know.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Yeah, something really tragic that you're like, man, this is like this is the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Next time you come to Seattle, we can go to the fucking burnt down Seattle underneath if you want.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

That's crazy. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

That was actually not a loss for America. I watched a whole video on like how Seattle was like made, and uh it was like three dudes just beefing over land. That's why all the roads are fucked up because it was based on like their their fucking shitty road directions. Um, yeah, whoever designed Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

I hope there are some other crazy things about not Seattle, about Washington. Uh back roads in Washington, all kinds of crazy stories about that. Bigfoot? Bigfoot. There, I mean, there's several uh it's it's not, of course, just Bigfoot. There's a lot of cryptid stories of those backwoods.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

It's illegal to kill Bigfoot. I would hope so. Yeah, up here.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

What about a skinwalker that's pretending to be Bigfoot?

SPEAKER_03 21:30

So you'd have to gamble and skin them. Say something only Bigfoot would know. Ugh. Shit, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

I don't know, man. It could boil the one. I'm the real Bigfoot. No, I'm the real Bigfoot. Truth one, your feet were bigger. I knew it was you. I knew it was you.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Everybody knows.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Here's an an interesting uh what I said. I think I think I told Eric this in a different conversation. Was at the end of this movie, I it felt a little doom-ish. Did anybody get that? That first player shooter thing she's running through.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

You see her hands going like yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Yeah, yeah. I see that. I think I see the comparison you're making.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

And she clocked that that demon or whatever it was that got in her way.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

The sand or or wall, limestone. Whatever it was. She just clocked it twice. That was so her just absolutely not giving a crap on her way back is one of my favorite parts of the movie. Because she's just be right.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Fuck you, my friend's dying. Let me fucking she climbed a what was it? Um like that rope was that rope was rope, dude. I was thinking so I did the actual I didn't do it. AI helped me. Uh A helped me do the actual math on like how deep it was. Yeah, so you did the math. Based on like how long it like he dropped the rock, it took four seconds to hit the ground. That's 78.5 meters. I don't know how much that is in feet. I think like 200 feet.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Okay, also, excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Big ass rope. Sorry. Um, the way that she climbed that rope, here's some genuine survival advice. Don't do it that way. That's gonna take so much energy out of you. The way to do it is you create you take your foot. So like you you were to you grab the rope with both hands uh above your head, you take the rope, you wrap it once under your foot, and then you put your on like your right foot, and then you put your left foot on top of that. Yep, you pull yourself up, you loosen your grip, you slide your foot up, you lock it again, and then you reach back up and you pull yourself up again. That's how you climb a rope. You don't you don't just grab it and then start walking up the wall. You're gonna exert all your energy in that first 20 feet that you don't need to climb 200 feet. Now, even so, even doing the right technique, 200 feet, you would be exhausted by the time you got like I I think you could easily die doing that.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Yeah, you all all it takes is one mistake. Like that's slip, not wrap the rope right.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

I am cu I am curious if I could do that. I could not. I couldn't. Because I I feel like I'm light enough that I could maybe get myself up with not like I think I'd be exhausted by the time I got to the top, but there is a weird part of me that's like, I think I could do that with maybe like a break or something in between sitting there.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

I could probably climb down a rope. I'm not climbing back up.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

We should go to like a rock climbing thing. There's one in Burbank. I would love to go. I can't do it. I'm so interested in rock climbing stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

Sam says 257 feet is how much?

SPEAKER_00 24:38

If you lock your that's a lot, that's a lot. But if you lock your feet, right? If you do that technique where you lock your foot and your your foot is wrapped and you just kind of hang on, you could rest.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

And as long as your legs aren't exhausted, you you could theoretically just kind of sit there and relax your arms and rest for a bit. I think I could do it.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

200 feet's a long way. That's a long way.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

I mean, let's say your cover quick too she wasn't doing let's say a foot, a per a foot purple. Is that fair? No, you'd reach up to the floor. It'd be like a couple feet, actually.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

You'd be doing half your body.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

Yeah. Okay, so like so like three feet.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

You'd be you you would be doing a foot.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Three feet. Okay, so I do a foot and a half, right? Two and a half. Up three hundred. I mean, that's a hundred and fifty poles.

SPEAKER_03 25:28

That's you'd have to have like after going through all of this shit, you'd have to have like the grip strength still, the arm strength still. Like they were moving rocks, they were like assuming I'm at full strength, and then they come back down too. And then they come back down, you'd yeah, you'd get fucking bad rope burn. I think down.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

But she had magical powers by that time. Doing the same technique, I think down is a lot easier, right? Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

I mean, it's just it's just more dangerous.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Yeah. Uh, you just have to make sure your foot's locked before you let go.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Not more dangerous, it's just as dangerous, but it's you could be more careless.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

I guess I would say it's probably scarier going down than up. Yeah. You gotta also imagine how damn dark it must have been. Um I mean, I know she has the camera light and everything, but like wherever the camera light is not pointing.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

But I don't think I'm uh claustrophobic, but like I got claustrophobic tendencies. I'd be freaking out like fucking Benji was. You know, you're calling over skulls and shit. He's something bit me.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Oh, yeah. No, that would freak me out. If I got stuck, I would be freaking out.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

He did not have to mention the rats.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

No, he didn't. He was so fucking with them. Even uh uh, what what was the name? Papi?

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Yeah, buff Papillion? Papillon.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Papillon. Yeah, he didn't no, he was fucking with them there. Yeah, no, there's no need to mention that. Fucking asshole.

Entering Underground And Travel Thoughts

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Like it's known, it's known rats are underground. Well, why are you telling me this?

SPEAKER_00 26:56

Why are you making me think that they're the guy's already like, I don't want to go there, and he's like, Don't worry, there's rats. Yeah. He's like, oh great, yeah, now I want to go to go pet them.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

So let me point this out. In real life, the director asked all of the cast if they were uh claustrophobic. They all said no. Was he actually? He took them down for a um for a test, uh, what do they call it? Dress like a dress test, a dress rehearsal. And one of them was kind of freaking out, and he said instead of you know recasting or anything like that, he made the character claustrophobic in the movie.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Was it Benji?

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Yes. Oh my god. That's what the speculation nobody ever confirmed it, but it said he had the most claustrophobic scene, which leads you to believe it had to be Benji.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

That's interesting. Imagine it wasn't. Well, but he had the most claustrophobic scene.

SPEAKER_03 27:47

Yeah, he was trapped. Um, let's talk about the people dying in the movie. Um, each of their deaths represent a sin they have committed. What was Benji's? Um, so it's believed that because that one, because he's he was the camera guy the whole time, right? So he was seeing that one lady and she was carrying a baby. So I was looking up reading some stuff. Apparently, it's believed that he had he had like a girl and a a kid, and he doesn't want to like claim them. But like, I don't know. I don't know about Beth. I think he said that, didn't he? That's what Zed said. I think his name was. Oh, that was Zed.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

Yeah, that was at the very end where she was like, Yeah, and she was like, What's the thing you regret the most? Like, what's the thing you keep beating yourself up about? And uh, I think you telling me that Benji had a baby mama?

SPEAKER_01 28:37

That's what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

They stereotyped the shit out of Benji.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Damn. He's an American black man, huh?

SPEAKER_00 28:43

They like that's so messed up.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

Could have been TJ.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

I blame the French for that. I blame the French for racism.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

No, I don't. I blame the Australians.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

I blame the French.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

The Australians don't do anything on their own. They got it from the Australian or the French don't do anything on their own. They got it from the Australians.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

The Australians are just like the like the the the bad cousin of uh the UK. Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Uh the chick who died, the chick uh something with the X in it. Was something with the S.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Oh, was she the one whose head got?

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Yeah, she got beat by uh Brutal. The mole. The mole. The taupe. Um that was because like her her not it was like it was her like being he ran off. Um it was her not like stepping up and going to like help like you know, like La Taupe got left in there, didn't even get searched for, nobody looked for him. So she felt like guilty for that. So, like, you know, by his hands, that's what that was. Um Damn.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Um that was brutal. Uh okay, so Benji falling. Uh what about um Papillon getting I I assume that's because he didn't save whoever died in the burning car.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

He did yeah, he didn't save whoever died in the burning car.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

He just left them the his death is crazy.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Yeah, he got oh, and he like so I the way I he like he let the it eat him, like you know, like he got ate by the floor, you know? Like he was so like you know, in his brain, tormented by this that he let it eat him up and it ended up heat the floor literally eating.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Horrible thought experiment. Have you ever imagined like from his perspective being like completely covered in in dirt, like not buried, you are legitimately like completely compact in concrete, only your feet sticking out.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

See, that's like a claustrophobic moment. If I think about that, it freaks me.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

You can't even be claustrophobic because you literally you can't move at all. It is just your toes. I yeah, no, that's that would be the worst claustrophobia ever.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

That's that's worse than dying in space.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

Yeah. Well, I don't know about that. I feel like it's we looked up recently how fast you would die in space. It is not as fast as you think. You would think immediately. It's not Alex. How fast do you think you would die in space? Before whatever TJ said. Like, what was your thoughts?

SPEAKER_01 31:07

No space suit.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Yeah, no spacesuit, no space suit pulled out of an airlock. Yeah, airlock opens. Let's say you're you're not killed by like the the force of being pulled. Like you're just in space all of a sudden. How long do you think you survive?

SPEAKER_01 31:19

In space, vacuum, your blood boils. I unfortunately calculating the amount of time it would take to heat up your your blood, I'd say probably a little over a minute.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

So what we I thought it would be rather immediate. I I di I didn't think it'd be like immediate, but I thought it'd be within a few seconds, and I thought it would be more or less painless in a sense that your body would just be like, what the fuck? and just shut off. Which is also kind of what I thought. That is not what happens. It is in fact way more excruciating. Uh and there have been vacuum accidents that people have survived and have given their testimony of what it felt like. So apparently the first 10 to 15 seconds is

Rope Math And Survival Technique

SPEAKER_00 32:06

uh well, the first like three to five seconds, or I think like the first like three seconds, they said it's not immediate agony, but it is an incredibly strange feeling, they said. You can't breathe. Uh, there's so much pressure. If you were to try to hold your breath, your lungs would explode. So you can't hold your breath. It's like constantly pushing air out of you. Your eyes are getting pushed out. Your eyes are getting pushed out. The liquid, the guy said, uh, the guy who survived said that it felt like the water on or the saliva on his tongue was boiling, which they said physically in physics makes sense because in a vacuum, water would boil at a much lower temperature. So um the blood boiling thing would not actually happen the way that it's described in movies.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

Yeah, you're you're veins are strong enough to hold it.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

Yeah, they said that uh the vacuum of space, uh the a vacuum is not a great um uh temperature conduit.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

Like it doesn't like air, you know, it'll air can heat up, which heats you up. There's nothing to heat up or cool you down in space. It's just nothing.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

So it you wouldn't freeze right away. Conductor, that's what I was trying to boil right away. The space is an awful uh conductor of heat, apparently. So uh you would essentially like basically you would die from uh asphyxiation, is what it said before anything. Uh so the first like three seconds or so were uh described by a person as not immediate agony, but an incredibly weird and foreign feeling. And then the next uh uh twelve to fifteen seconds is excruciating agony pain. This guy, I think, survived in like 20 seconds of a vacuum or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 33:53

It took him a long ass time to re-air up the room.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

They had to re-pressurize the room, like it they were testing a spacesuit and uh a hose bursted or something, and he was immediately sucked into it, like in a vacuum. Um and he survived with no, I think no long-term effect or papillon. Yeah, uh so which one?

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Which one would you rather? Would you rather be up to your fucking shins in dirt compacted, or would you rather spend freaking 30 seconds in space?

SPEAKER_00 34:28

I think you would die faster from the ground. Well, okay, another keynote. It says after 10 to 15 seconds, you become so disoriented and confused that it's unlike the actually feeling pain and are rather just in a delirious, unconscious state. Yeah. So it's really the first 10 to 15 seconds.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

Yeah. I also was uh I was talking about uh Sam says I would imagine it would be similar to the pressure of deep ocean diving. The pressure is immense. I did I was talking to Eric about there was an incident in like I think the eighties or something. Um deep ocean divers, they're on like an oil rig. Uh there's a team of I believe four to go down, and then they go back up and they get brought up in a diving bell that keeps them pressurized to the bottom of the ocean, and then they get brought up and they're getting this pressurized capsule um so that they can keep you know going back down and they don't have to like re-acclimate all the time. So there was two people coming up, there was two people in bed sleeping, and I think there was one person next to the door. Um, anyways, it's kind of like a spaceship kind of interlocking system, you know, you gotta dock it, you gotta re-pressurize one part and the make sure, you know, so nobody fucking blows up. Uh, but some dude on the outside did something wrong. Um, and the door on the inside was open, and a guy got immediately ejected through like this big of a freaking crack. It was like um and then the people in the bed or something, they're just the same kind of thing with like space, their blood, like you know, and like they you know they kind of just expanded.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Yeah, yeah, imploded.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

Um the exterior pressure was much

Deaths As Sins Then Space And Sea

SPEAKER_03 36:10

greater than the the diving bell that the people were coming up in got fucking launched. There was so much like pressure difference. It was yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Apparently, that situation created a lot of modern safety procedures regarding that specific.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

The thing is, there was literally that was it was already invented. The thing that could have like stopped it was already invented. They just didn't want to, it wasn't required.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Yeah, damn, absolutely crazy. Like that that kind of an accident is horrific. Now, we were talking about it that is similar to the Titan sub where it must have happened so fast that they had no time to react or feel anything, they were just suddenly dead. Yeah, it was as fast as a cloud, probably the best way to go, yeah, but also horrifying. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

Yeah, you don't even know it. Ocean pressure is all from all sides, you know, so it's just immediate just shrinkage.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

I can only imagine the absolute panic of hearing the door click, maybe or something, and be like, what the fuck? And then it's over.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Yeah, ca there there were multiple sounds. Do you heard the the Coast Guard tapes? Mm-hmm. Oh no, I didn't. The Titan? Oh, the Titan. They were hearing it, and there there was if if we're listening to the same thing, I mean it's a vast ocean. If we're listening to the same thing, there were multiple sounds. Like you're you're probably nailing it like not not exactly, you know, because we don't know. We were, you know, the closest people listening were hundreds of miles away in a uh which in a coast guard cutter.

SPEAKER_03 37:39

It travels in water pretty far.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Pretty well. But it was it was interesting that it was, you know, you heard multiple sounds. So it was like probably exactly I hate to say I don't know how to say it right. It's not exactly, but it's probably very close. Your your description is very plausible. You heard a little t like what the fuck it's done.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Yeah. Um have you guys heard of uh the blip? Yes. The bloop the bloop. Um there was a sound underwater that nobody Yeah, nobody can explain. It was caught on like a bunch of different equipment across the entire world.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

You guys ever heard the the trumpets? I don't know how true those actually are, but like there's a lot of videos online of people being like, what the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_01 38:27

You know, uh and I I don't care if anybody calls me a liar, but I swear we were at the house one time and I remember this. I remember you s I remember you saying this. Do you guys hear that? You hear that? And what was weird was I don't recall exactly, but I don't think that everybody heard it.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

No, there was like a handful of people in the house who were like, yeah, I heard that, and the other half were like, I heard nothing. And it was weird. If I I mean I might be making this part up, but if I recall correctly, like you and somebody else in the room, like you heard it and and the other person didn't.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

There was multiple people. It was I remember me and my sister-in-law heard it. What is that? You hear that? Yeah. What is it? And it wasn't until after that my brother pulled up sounds and we were like, that's what it was! And it was it was crazy that they were like, you know, you you heard that noise? Yes, I didn't hear shit. And it was um still to this day there's a lot of there's a lot of uh speculation that it's electromagnetic fields.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

It's gotta be like I I do think it's gotta be some weird phenomenon from like on earth that we just don't have the explanation for yet.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Well that's what the bloop is. That's like the the most interesting thing. Everybody wants to say it's like this giant monster. Okay, maybe. I'm not gonna discount that. I am a gnarly conspiracy theorist.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

I mean, some of the things in the ocean could very well be described as a giant monster.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

We know more about space than we do with the bottom of our own ocean.