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A veiled woman stands in the yard, palms open, blood dripping, and everything feels slightly off—clocks run backward, shadows stretch, and a grieving family can’t trust their senses. We dive into a new psychological horror film that disguises its core as a home-invasion scare, then reveals something far more intimate: how grief can haunt a house from the inside out. We talk through what the movie shows, what it withholds, and why the smartest survival choices fall apart when adrenaline narrows your world to a single, shaky frame.

Eric, Alex, and TJ map the tension between a son’s clear instincts to check the car, find the neighbor and secure the weapon vs the mother’s half-truths that keep him blind at the worst possible moments. We break down the visual grammar that sells panic: Dutch tilts, elastic zooms, and edits that “unhappen” events like waking mid-nightmare. From clothesline jump-scares to the controversial early reveal of the antagonist’s face, we dig into the craft choices and how they serve a deeper read: the woman in the yard might be Ramona herself, a manifestation of complicated grief and depressive ideation that seeps into power outages, mirrors, and memories.

Where does the ending land—hard truth, warning dream, or wish-vision? We debate the single bullet, the backward R’s, and the attic sequence, then explore what real-world resilience looks like when roles vanish and backups don’t exist. Come for the creepy set pieces; stay for the themes that linger after the lights come up. If you’ve seen it, bring your boldest theory. If you haven’t, cue it up, then join us to compare notes.

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SPEAKER_00:

Hello, survivors, and welcome to another episode of Will You Survive the Podcast. Ooh, I came in there with way too much energy. I'm Eric. I'm your host. And I'm joined here by my two co-hosts, Alex. That's me. And TJ. The government upped alligator deaths to sell more crocs shoes. And that's what we're going to be talking about here. We're going to get to the bottom of this conspiracy today. Why does the government hate gators? Now I think it all started. What no? We watched a We watched a movie. Yeah. Three weeks ago. We, we as a unit, we all finally watched this movie. I had already watched it three weeks ago. Ain't that right? We watched this movie twice.

SPEAKER_03:

We watched it yesterday. What do you mean? And also three weeks ago, which is me. That's crazy. Welcome back to Zero to 100 part.

SPEAKER_00:

No, okay. I'm sorry. I s I suck. I had a very busy three weeks and a very eventful three weeks. Uh and I kept forgetting to watch this movie. But I finally watched this movie, and it was not what I was expecting. Told you.

SPEAKER_03:

You know, I I didn't expect it.

SPEAKER_00:

So, first things first, and I'm actually really happy that I remember this.

SPEAKER_03:

Let's not jump to the ending. I just want to say that. We do that too much.

SPEAKER_00:

Shut your face. Hang on. Spoiler alert. This is a brand new movie. Um I think it is, it's yeah, it was a 2025 movie, right? I believe that's right. Let me look at it. It's like a brand new movie, it might even be a 2026 movie, but I think it's 2025.

SPEAKER_04:

It's definitely not 2026.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a brand new movie.

SPEAKER_04:

It's 2025.

SPEAKER_00:

So we uh have to give our legally obligated spoiler alert. So if you haven't seen this movie, I do recommend seeing it. I think it's pretty good. I think it's a little trippy, and I felt like I was on acid the whole time.

SPEAKER_04:

Would you like a little storyline?

SPEAKER_00:

I would like a release date, actually, and then spoiler alert, still within two years. Okay. Yeah, it's not that new.

SPEAKER_04:

Story? Ramona is a single mother who is still grieving the loss of her husband after a fatal car accident that also left her disabled. She now has to care for her two children, Taylor and Annie. However, when a mysterious woman clad in a black veiled dress appears in her front yard, she must do everything she can to protect her family.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright. So, I honestly don't even know where to start the conversation on this one. Do we just want to take it from the top?

SPEAKER_03:

So movie starts off, Lady the mother is laying in bed uh watching videos of her dead husband.

SPEAKER_00:

Watching the same video of her dead husband. Same exact video.

SPEAKER_03:

He starts out saying, I have I had a dream. Much like somebody else. No, we just go back in government conspiracy. And then you can see that she's like still reeling from you know the death of her husband. Because the fact that her kid walked in and she was just completely deaf. And then she went, like, he pulled the blinds open, she was like, Just let me wake up. You've been awake, probably for hours. That's get your ass out. Also, the lights are off, the power bill's not paid.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so the way that this movie started, I I can't stress enough, like I'm sure everybody knows this, but when you start off with this movie, you don't know what the fuck is going on. And this movie, when you don't know what's happening, it's just very trippy. And it's a we it's a movie that I kept saying to myself, like, okay, this is all gonna make sense eventually.

SPEAKER_03:

And then it never went his way. He's like, Well, I guess it was fucking dumb.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so like most movies you can kind of guess where things are going.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

I made, I'm pretty sure, not a single correct guess. I'm pretty sure every single time I was like, oh, this is what's happening, it would immediately prove me wrong. And I was like, Well, I'm just gonna go fuck myself because like holy crap, I could not have been more wrong about literally everything in this movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Which I gotta say is kind of interesting because I told you after I watched it three weeks ago that Okay, you guys keep throwing that in there.

SPEAKER_00:

It feels not that important to keep mentioning that. What? What's that? Nothing. I just, you know, I feel like you're talking about I feel like you know. Mention what? Like how we both watched this three weeks ago? I just don't see how it's really that relevant.

SPEAKER_04:

It just seems like it's really, you know, like it's it's just a point like leaving rent-free in your guys' head instead of just.

SPEAKER_03:

So why would you one not have a backup for like how you're gonna like if your car goes dead, you're not gonna have a battery in your car, especially it's a jeep. Those are for off-roading and stuff, right? And then also you're not gonna have an alternate source of power, like uh you get some solar panels or something, it's a wide open ass field.

SPEAKER_04:

So the other thing that I I had about that was I was complaining about the fact that they wouldn't have something like a backup generator for this particular type of situation. But then she did answer that question that there was still a lot of work needing to be done on the house.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, so that's kind of what I thought was that like if the dad was there, he would take care of it. Yeah. But because he's so suddenly and and we're assuming that this happened very recently. Yeah. Because uh she just seems very thrown off by everything. Like every problem that's happening now is like I have no idea what to do. It's very clear that they had very defined roles, and him being gone kind of left them with no way to fix everything that was wrong. Yep.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and he did not have a backup plan for if he did die, which I do. I have all my passwords and stuff on my phone, and Maddie knows my password to my phone, so she needs like how to you know pay something or whatever.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, let me let me borrow your phone real quick.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I have to send a text.

SPEAKER_00:

I just sent a work text really quick. I have to do something real quick. Yeah. They're gonna be like, what the fuck is a 253? I don't want them to know it's me.

SPEAKER_03:

Hey guys, we got eight walks today.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, who the hell?

SPEAKER_03:

All one person.

SPEAKER_00:

Anyways, all one person. You're gonna be working a long shift.

SPEAKER_03:

And her name starts with R.

SPEAKER_00:

Ramona on her crutches.

SPEAKER_03:

She could not walk, dude. She was slow. And yeah, nah. Oh, that's one thing I pointed out while we were watching it. Um not it was not even that far into the movie. When he goes out to the Jeep to uh like try to start it, and then he almost swings on his mom. Like, bro, just didn't hear the can like the crutches.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, that was the whole point. What it was supposed to be like the the woman in the yard was it was like an illusion. She made him believe that she was on the other side of that, and he was so focused on that that it it it was basically like his mom wasn't there.

SPEAKER_03:

But like Pickwin, you either got shadow manipulation or fucking sound manipulation. Which one is it, woman in the yard?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it was kind of both because she looked like she would like the shadow looked like it was her. He saw like the the veil and everything in the shadow. He thought it was her. That's why he swung and then it was his mom. That's what threw him off.

SPEAKER_04:

So, one of the things I will say, and being in high stress situations, I've been in a few. And one of the things that I will give credit to is when you're hopped up on adrenaline, your senses go to shit. You're not able to hear, you're not able to see, you're not that's why that's why eyewitnesses in high stress situations are such shit. Because you become tunnel-visioned, deaf, you know, you're you're deaf, blind, and stupid. Adrenaline really messes you up. That's why, in order to keep yourself safe in a in a traumatic situation, one of the movies that we haven't covered yet that I think we've mentioned, uh, the one where um I think it's the guy who got cancelled, Franco. Uh James Franco, uh, where he falls down the the cliff. Oh, 137. 137. Uh so 27. 27, whatever. And in that one, uh, he has to keep all of his wits about him the entire time. And you can see how quickly everything can can uh escalate for him and does in many situations, but if you let your adrenaline get the better of you, you're not going to be able to think clearly, to be able to process your situation, and to be able to effectively evaluate an escape plan. And I think we saw that with this kid. He was already hopped up and scared. I think it was intentional for us to see his age, his youth, and that he isn't very well in control of himself at this point. So I forgave the the movie for that. I thought he was just, they were trying to show us how scared he was, how hopped up on adrenaline he was. He's not paying attention to his environment, he's not paying attention to his surroundings. That's why, in a zombie situation, in an apocalypse situation, you have to be all on guard. Now, we've we've come to this agreement, and I think uh you made the point, TJ, that actually uh satisfied my my brain. Why is it that every single zombie show shows uh zombies sneaking up on people when they're all shambling and groaning and moaning, but then I never thought about the fact that you're firing off blasts with no ear protection. Yeah. You're most likely gonna be deaf.

SPEAKER_03:

Which they also they show that in um The Last of Us TV show, which is something they added just like because it wasn't in the game, but Joel was deaf in one of his ears because of the.

SPEAKER_04:

So they straight stole your they stole your idea.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Fucking jerks. But that, you know, that would explain that, but not this. This was, I think, I forgave him for that exact situation, uh, because he was all hopped up on adrenaline, not because this thing had to manipulate sound as much as it manipulated the shadows and and the uh the visuals. She was causing, I believe she was causing direct hallucinations.

SPEAKER_00:

See, I I I agree with that, and I think that um a lot of the like a lot of the camera work kind of lends into that where it it annoyed me a little bit, but I I like I understood what the purpose of it was. When it would get kind of like low to the ground at an angle or like a like a kind of diagonal angle, Dutch tilt is what that's called. Yeah, and it would start like zooming in really hard, or like zooming out in a in a weird way that it makes the world kind of stretch. Yep. Like that's what it was trying to simulate was that he was like kind of in like a different headspace. Right. It was that like stress, uh, kind of similar to like what Call of Duty and whatnot will do when like a bomb goes off next to you or something. So I think the camera work was impressive on this on this movie. Uh one random moment that I'll just bring up in passing that TJ and I both uh noted was uh when the blanket that was hanging up in the yard covered her. When I think it was that same scene actually where he was where he was running to the car and it covered her. We're like, nope, I'm sorry. I'm this is why we don't hang things.

SPEAKER_03:

This is why we don't have clothes lines. Yeah, it's not a good thing. It's either it's something's gonna pop up behind it or a prisoner's gonna use your clothes to escape.

SPEAKER_04:

Buy a fucking dryer, dude.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, every every frickin' movie, that's what happens.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, seriously, they they clearly had the money. Yeah, fresh farm air on your clothes. You're telling me he didn't have a life insurance policy?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, we may we may be um we may be jumping the gun with saying something as extreme as every movie, but every movie that has a clothesline in it and clothes hang drying on it, you're gonna have a jump scare behind.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so there's actually three. It's either prisoner stealing your clothes, scary thing, or you're falling from a building and it's what's breaking your fall.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh.

SPEAKER_03:

That's all clotheslines are used for.

SPEAKER_04:

Where in actuality you should be decapitated by it.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, four things. Decapitated by it because this is a final destination movie, scary thing, falling from a building, or whatever the fuck I said. Prisoner taking clothes.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, but Prisoner Taking Clothes, where are you getting that one from? What is that?

SPEAKER_03:

Dude, that's like you'll you know, like there's always like in the movie, bro, like, I don't know, fucking alien crashes. Oh, he looks like a human. He needs clothes, clothesline, puts it on.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, I get it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

You know?

SPEAKER_04:

Yep. I can't.

SPEAKER_00:

Breaks out of prison, runs through people's yards, grabs clothes, puts it on. I'm not saying it's not a trope. I'm just saying I've never seen a movie that has that trope. Run it from the cops, you know? Secret agent, Jason Bourne. I was gonna make a bad joke.

SPEAKER_04:

You guys, you did you guys see that TikTok I sent you of Matt Damon?

SPEAKER_03:

Which one?

SPEAKER_04:

No. So Matt Damon started a movie.

SPEAKER_03:

So many Matt Damon TikToks. I just kidnapped. The Bourne Ultimatum?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, he's he started a movie in the 90s called Dogma.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And he played Loki.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah. He's it's me, Loki from Dogma.

SPEAKER_04:

Where back when I played Loki, it was uh he goes, that was long before uh they did it over here, and I did it without the stupid British accent. I thought you guys would like that part. And um, or I think he said fake British accent. Yeah, he said fake. Which I thought you guys would like because he called it a fake British accent.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean it is, so they're all fake.

SPEAKER_04:

They're all fake. And so uh he explains how he goes, people have been asking me what happened. Well, at the at the end of that movie, because he's the angel Loki who's trying to overthrow heaven, God banishes him to live the rest of his life on earth, but he was dumped in the Middle East, woken up without knowing who he is. He goes, So I was I was reborn, if you will. Oh my god, did I just do that? And so it's all all of these, uh, all of these different Jesus Christ, it's chasing porn. Exactly. It was all these these funny different uh tropes that he did, or um, what do you call them? I guess they're innuendo, it's just not sexual.

SPEAKER_00:

Someone's probably seen the first born identity movie. They're okay, they're they're pretty good. All at some point, but I could not tell you what happens in any of them.

SPEAKER_04:

The same exact thing.

SPEAKER_00:

It's the same thing. So I was actually listening to Conan and Conan O'Brien just did an episode of his podcast with Matt Damon, and they were they briefly talked about the Born Ultimatum and uh or the Born Identity, and they were basically saying like uh Jason Bourne would be so useless nowadays, like, because like everything they were talking about they've traveled recently and it's all scanning your eye or scanning your fingerprint or something like that. And he's like, you know, Jason Jason Bourne's entire thing was like carrying like seven different passports. I could be any of these people at any time. It's like, no, you can't. Your eye tells you exactly who you are. Then you have uh until people start making fake eyes for that stuff, or like uh or you know, just getting really good at hacking on the fly, then well, since we're already way off topic.

SPEAKER_04:

Since we're already way off topic.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm sure like I'm sure like putting on a fake contact that'll like dupe it in some way is like even if they do your DNA, you could like, you know, or like a fingerprint, steal somebody's fingerprint so I can put that much on the Loki just ripped somebody's eye out when he needed their retina scan. Yeah, see, I don't think that's gonna work in TSA real quick. If you if they go to scan your eye and you just go, oh actually hang on, scan this one instead. I don't think that's gonna work that well.

SPEAKER_03:

I just have you guys seen the movie Monkey Man? No. No. Okay. Do you like the John Wick saw it?

SPEAKER_04:

Which one?

SPEAKER_03:

John Wick?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

You like those? Okay, yeah. So Indian John Wick, but like way more deep, you know?

SPEAKER_04:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Takes place in India. Um basically he's trying to get revenge for his like mom's murder. And he's like, at the the final battle is like he's fighting up this freaking skyscraper, just if he starts in the kitchen, he's fucking murkin' people, whatever. Anyways, at one point he just chops some motherfucker's stum off, puts it in his pocket, doesn't use it for like 10 minutes, and then he just all of a sudden pulls it out. I'm like, what is he pulling out? It just goes and he puts it on the fingerprint scanner. It's a movie though.

SPEAKER_04:

I wanna I wanted to ask you guys, since you brought up John Wick now. This is way off topic of the woman in the yard, but that's what we do. Both of you have seen both of these movies. John Wick and Jason Bourne. Who wins?

SPEAKER_00:

John Wick. I think John Wick. Because Jason Bourne, like, yes, he was a killer, but he was a lot of just like stealth and like I don't know, like deception, that kind of stuff. John Wick was just like, I just shoot and I kill. And then he shoot and he killed.

SPEAKER_03:

The Bourne universe is more realistic than the Wick universe. Like there'll be like straight up gunfights in the middle of like populated areas and nobody is batting an eye, you know?

SPEAKER_00:

In Wick? In Wick, yeah. Yeah, like in the that that one scene with the two silencers in the uh in the train station. We're like shooting. Where they're just like Yeah, and I like how nobody is noticing all these holes and and uh they're like, dude, why did the wall just explode? Like that would make a noise. A bullet hitting a wall, it doesn't matter if it comes from a silencer, that's gonna make some noise.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00:

But you know, John Wick rules. Alright. So the woman in the yard. The woman in the yard or John Wick. Or John Wick. Woman in the yard versus Jason Bourne. What do we think?

SPEAKER_03:

I think Bourne takes it, Ike. Yeah, I I might have to agree. Um, one thing in this movie that I kind of didn't like was they showed her face a little too soon. I think I could agree with that. And then she you're just like, oh, it's just a normal ass bitch.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, you know. But it's not still. You say what? Like that but it's not still, you know? Like she she's not just a normal chick. She's got that shadow magic. That's crazy. True, but she's like, which I like I like that touch.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Um she is creepy. I will say, if I ever f seen a woman in the yard just chilling, and then she just opens her hands and there's blood. I don't think I'm staying in my house. I think I'll leave. Like you can have it.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I guess now we're 15 minutes, 20 minutes in. Maybe now we can uh we can jump to the end. Because I feel like to really talk about this movie, it's really just the ending. Like everything as a whole, how do you interpret this? So Alex and I kind of briefly talked about this. Mm-hmm. My thought, I believe that this was one big metaphor for suicide or suicide awareness. Um what do you think?

SPEAKER_02:

Trigger warning. Trigger warning.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, shoot, can we even say that? I mean, you just did. Yeah, I said twice. Hey, it's important TikTok. Don't ban us for talking about important stuff.

SPEAKER_03:

Algorithm Japanese. Sapuku. Does that work? I don't know. Anyways algorithm Japanese. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

People are icing themselves. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

There you go.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. No, don't ice yourself. You're so pretty. Ahahaha. She tried to deport herself from life. She did. Um so I think this was one big metaphor. I think that evil spirit was like a spirit of wanting to ice yourself.

SPEAKER_03:

I think that you're somewhat what you think. Um I think that's her kind of manifestation of like grief and like her mental illness because she d does need to take pills. At one point, the son You know she's on crazy pills, which is wild. I would have slapped the shit out of him.

SPEAKER_00:

I yeah, I mean, I know what you mean, but at the same time, I also feel like she went so off her rocker that he really did have to give her that reality check of like absolutely not. What like at one point he said like yeah, at one point he said something like, Why should we even listen to you? Uh-huh. And damn good point. She was not making good decisions.

SPEAKER_03:

She was very just wild this whole movie. But I think manifestation of grief and her mental illness, and I think that she a these are my two theories, she killed her family and then went crazy. Like when she stabbed the pillow, I'm pretty sure her brain blocked it out and she stabbed her daughter. That's my thought. Um or this all happened and she ended up murking herself, and in the end is just like not real. Why is my camera being weird? Hold on.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, your camera did freeze. Why do you do? Okay, Alex. Why don't you read the why what is your interpretation of this?

SPEAKER_04:

So I don't think the I don't think the premise is so much about someone icing themselves. I think it's more so a bigger picture of the complications of dealing with grief. One of the outcomes is people icing themselves. So I'm not throwing that out entirely, but I think it's a much bigger conversation that they were having.

SPEAKER_03:

True. I think the woman in the yard is well, yeah. Uh ending in the movie, Woman in the Yard is her.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So that got kind of trippy. Where like that's uh everything that the woman in the yard was doing to haunt them, it like flipped where she woke up as the woman in the yard, and she saw herself approaching her and asking her, like the same conversation that happened beforehand. And then uh, and then she kind of went through, like kind of flashing forward through all the moments where they were being haunted by the woman in the yard, except it was Ramona. So that's where I kind of started to to understand. I was like, oh, so the woman in the yard is a manifestation of Ramona, it's yeah, of something of her. I took it as an evil spirit of wanting to ice yourself, and it was something that was like looming and it kept getting closer and closer until it was enveloping her. It infected uh it affected her kids, like it affected her life. It it even affected the power, like so and I that that's all stuff that I I feel like was just a manifestation of like this thing that was taking over her life, and that was why she was so hesitant for uh I forget the son's name. Uh I forget his name, but why she was so hesitant for him to get the gun out.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, which is the reason there was only one bullet, she threw away all the other ones and left one.

SPEAKER_00:

I also wanted to bring Oh, I didn't even gather that.

SPEAKER_03:

That's the ending is very haunting of Hill House Betneck Lady. Yes, Nell haunting herself, and that brings me back to one of the things I said in that episode, which is the things that are haunting you are pieces of yourself. I said that um I love the haunting of Hill House. And I think that that it kinda fits here also that you know this is just all her, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I think it's uh it's really interesting because like I said, when you start the movie, you obviously don't know what's happening. Um and it really is one of those movies that you kind of somewhat feel like you know what's happening, and then the more it goes on, the more you're like, oh, I have no idea what's going on. But in like a pretty interesting and good way, it's just very interesting.

SPEAKER_04:

When when I first saw it, the first thing I came and told you was I didn't know what the fuck happened. It was I like how you said it was like an acid trip, right? There was there was nothing, and I hate to say uh logical, but it it didn't feel like the movie was clearly making a point. It was letting you decide what point you wanted it to make. And it kind of drives me nuts when movies do that, but at the same time, I get it, I understand why they're doing that. But you bring up a point, TJ, that makes me wonder if this was uh going down the line of a different alternate reality, a different dimension, if you will. Uh she does ice herself, and this is the spirit coming to to tell her, like, what the fuck's wrong with you? Right? Like this is what you want, this is this is the future you want, and now that like kind of changes my whole perspective.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I th I think the ending was just a little too much of a happy ending for it to be actually true. I think that she definitely pulled the the trigger.

SPEAKER_00:

I think that's I think that's honestly fair because the the movie had been showing countless times where you believed one thing was happening, and then it would cut, and then all of a sudden it was like, oh, everything that just happened in like the last minute and a half didn't actually happen. It was all this illusion, it was all this dream, like this bad dream. Like every time that she hurt her kids, it always ended up not being what actually happened. It was like she started hallucinating and and like believed she was doing it. It was like a really lucid dream, and that happened multiple times. Uh is that lucid's not right. Vivid? Like an extremely vivid dream. A hallucination. Well, lucid means that you're in control, like you know you're in a dream.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, I guess that's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So this is more of like a in a yeah, like a really vivid dream that she believed was happening. Like when she when she uh poked her daughter really hard in the back. Um that uh that didn't actually end up happening. I mean, as far as the movie portrays, it didn't actually happen. Um so that's kinda I see what you're saying at the end, and I think what also supports that is that uh it kind of started to feel like like an allergy med ad. Like afterwards, where it's like, I took this and now I can breathe clearly, and it was like it was like that at the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, uh I'm I'm not gonna argue that. I now I don't fully uh subscribe to the idea that it was too happy at the end. Um, one of the things I thought of when I watched this movie, the very first thing I thought of was this was her getting her life back and getting her family back when she was allowing the grief to absorb her. And she was given a vision of what grief looks like. And so it was like a warning, you keep going this route. This is this is where you're gonna wind up, right? You are the woman in the yard, you are haunting yourself, you're haunting your family, you are the one that's causing all of this. And at the end, it was like uh what I told Eric when I first watched it. I I didn't tell him, I didn't give him any spoilers, but I said the first thing I thought of when I watched it and it got to the end was uh do you remember that movie Evan Almighty? You ever see that one, TJ?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh that's the second one.

SPEAKER_04:

That's the second one. Yeah. In that scene where um the lady who was in the Gilmore Girls was sitting in the cafe and she asks for more food, you know, refill on chicken and french fries, and the waiter comes up and it's Morgan Freeman, of course, and she's like, I feel like I'm losing my family. And you know, he gives her this analogy and says, Do you want when people pray to God and they ask for patience, do you think God just gives them patience or does he give them opportunities to be patient? And one of the things I thought of with this movie is she wanted to be a whole person again, but yeah, but without her husband, she didn't have the strength to carry on. And I kind of thought this was a very brutal way of saying what it was gonna take for her to get back up and and keep moving with her family. And I I I tell the only thing I could say when I when I saw this, I walk in, I told Eric, I don't know what the fuck I just watched. This movie was crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's so it's one of those movies that I almost wonder if everybody gets that gets this from it, or if some people will just watch this and be like, oh, it's about a creepy woman in a yard who haunted them, and then that was it. Like, I I almost wonder how much of this is like looking like kind of like looking kind of too deep into it.

SPEAKER_03:

Lots of the time p that's how people that you know, because like you can have movies that are like deep and like you gotta think about it, but that's not what everybody wants to watch. So you gotta like intermingle it for those dumb motherfuckers who don't know and think it's just a movie about a scary lady in the art, you know?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, I I almost wonder like how much I guess I just I I mean I'm sure the answers are out there. Like, I'm sure I could look it up and see what the director said about it and all that. But I almost wonder like what was the intention with making this movie. I'm sure there's like interviews out there and whatnot, but what happened? Yeah, Matt Damon was talking about that in Netflix movies that like the new meta, for lack of a better term, is basically just to repeat the plot over and over throughout the movie so that when people are multitasking like we do, we'll understand what's happening, which means they're just catering to the fact that we have the attention span of a goldfish.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm pretty decent at like multitasking and like watching something in the background. Like I watch anime that is in Japanese whilst I'm playing a game, you know? Yeah. And I'm gonna do that. I wish I was better.

SPEAKER_00:

I think you both are way better at multitasking than I am.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I almost beat Minecraft while recording the podcast. We're gonna need a part two of that. I need to I need to redeem myself. You got pretty far. I'm pretty impressed. Why? Because you're gonna go for actually beating it. And then, dude, I all I had to do is get to the bastion and then boom, get to the portal and dip. So the woman in the yard.

SPEAKER_04:

So the woman in the yard.

SPEAKER_03:

The name of the movie um is very funny to me. Uh that's just how moo like scary movies are these days. Yeah. It's like the man in the something. You know? So I'm waiting for part two. It's gonna be the brother in the driveway.

SPEAKER_04:

What else? What else did you have on on this movie? There was there What was the most um controversial point for you?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, I think before we knew what was really going on, when we still believed it was like maybe some demon or spirit or something in the yard, um, I felt like the boy was making some good decisions, and I felt like he was ready to take over the role of being the man of the house, and the mom was not trusting of him. If this wasn't a manifestation of her grief, if this was actually just a being or a person in their yard, he had all the correct instincts, and she was trying to stop him at every turn.

SPEAKER_03:

But then she's like, Oh, watch your sister. Oh, you gotta watch her. So, like, you know, you're trying to push all this responsibility onto him, and then he's trying to make responsibility for things.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, she she does that, and then she keeps so this is the part that frustrated me the most because people do this all the time. She kept giving him half the story, and so he's trying to make these decisions and these and these uh like these really quick decisions based off of the information that he has, which is a lie, because she's giving him half the story or not the truth at all, and he's making these decisions based on that.

SPEAKER_03:

He's old enough to know, like the whole reason he went to the car has blood on her hands, don't go out there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, the whole reason he went to the car was to see if he could go to the neighbor, and she already knew that the car wasn't gonna work. Literally, and if she would have told him that, he wouldn't have been out there in the first place. He wanted to get the gun. Now I know why she didn't want him to get the gun now, but like I said, early in the movie, when you don't know exactly what's happening, and you think that there's a good point, like at least his information is that uh this could be uh a crazy lady from the mental institution nearby, then yeah, getting the gun makes sense. Yep, yeah. So it it was just frustrating that she was like shutting him down at every turn. I'm like, but the kid is right. Yeah. So what do we think about the whole mirror stuff where the R's were backwards, where she saw like the clock was backwards when she was in the room with her husband?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, okay, so I could kind of see that as uh part of what TJ was saying, that I didn't quite pick up on it this early, but what if the whole thing was a um either a dream or she'd already done the deed? Yeah. Like did she already ice herself because everything in dreams is allegedly backwards.

SPEAKER_00:

I haven't heard that before.

SPEAKER_04:

You haven't heard that dream that you see things inverted in dreams? No. Because your your brain actually everything that you that comes into your eyes is upside down or inverted, and your brain corrects it. Corrects it. So seeing those R's that her daughter was writing, imagine they weren't actually backwards. She was seeing it that way. Just like she saw the clocks backwards.

SPEAKER_03:

Also, everything in your peripheral vision is black and white, but you'll never be able to see it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, your your brain fills in the color for you.

SPEAKER_03:

Um I was also gonna say, surprisingly, the R in the freaking title is not backwards.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh. Oh man, that feels like a missed opportunity. That is a missed opportunity. I just pulled it up right now.

SPEAKER_03:

If you think about it from where, if you look at it on the stream, from where she's sitting, the R would be backwards if you're in the position of the woman in the yard.

SPEAKER_00:

Sure, but everything would be backwards then. True.

SPEAKER_03:

So like the R's being backwards and the mirrors and stuff, is that just saying that that is just a reflection of her, you know, like we've been saying. That's that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_00:

Um it's definitely an interesting movie. Where'd she get the chair? Yeah, it doesn't look that comfy.

SPEAKER_03:

No, sitting in it for a long time. She's on the sun and all black. In black, yeah. In this chair that just kind of appeared, you know?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think the uh the attic scene was probably the creepiest. I and uh that chair leads you there, but I think that whole scene was pretty creepy.

SPEAKER_03:

But yeah, I I ooh, I forgot. Uh the woman in black or the woman the woman in black, the woman in the yard uh popped up while she was crashing the car.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, popped up, scared her, then she crashed. So I think the mental illness angle really kind of pops through there. That gives it a little more ground.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, alright. Well, I almost wonder she was already if we're saying that the woman in the yard is a manifestation of grief, I think it's fair to say that she was already feeling grief because she was telling her husband how she wasn't happy, how she didn't feel fulfilled, how she was like grieving this life that she used to have that she no longer has. So I could kind of understand if it was like that's where the grief started, and then it just got substantially worse. Yeah. But I agree, the woman in the yard was there at the at the night of the crash.

SPEAKER_03:

I I think we need a better help sponsorship. This would be a perfect episode for it.

SPEAKER_00:

This would. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03:

And you know, this this is a survival podcast, and that's why we are sponsored by BetterHelp. Help you survive your mental health.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we can't actually say that. We legally cannot say that. Yeah, we're not sponsored by them. I wished, because that'd be kind of cool, but I don't think we could legally say that if they were not sponsored by them. No. Everything we say is brought to you by better No We're just like fucking.

SPEAKER_03:

That's how we ensure we never get a woman in the yard, more like DJ preceding uh warning, I'm black. Warning, I'm caution, I'm black.

SPEAKER_00:

Warning, I'm caution.

SPEAKER_03:

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SPEAKER_00:

Woo, woo, woo! African detected. Is that your superhero name, Black Caution?

SPEAKER_03:

Nah, it's Africol. Africol. Okay. No, that's it. It's a thing me and my uh my boss were dying at because we were a fucking sleep deprived and tired. And I there on there's some AC units and they said Americol. And in my vision, I seen Africol, so I turned, I'm like, damn, I thought those said Africol. He's like, that sounds like a fucking product. So I was like, Africol! Africol is your Afro frizzy. Do you ever find yourself craving fucking uh new ports? Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

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SPEAKER_03:

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SPEAKER_04:

You know, I'll tell you, now that smoking is like so so uncool, nobody smokes anymore. I will tell you uh when I used to work in the restaurant industry, the service industry, everybody smoked. Uh you get everybody loosely, but you understand. Yeah, you get to you get to go on smoke breaks when you when you smoke. So a lot of people smoked, I'll say it that way. But there were a lot of uh mooch, too. You know, hey, could I bum a smoke? Hey, could I bum a smoke? I will tell you, I got this from a girl, uh, smoke menthals. Because then people would come up at the bar, at work, whatever. Hey, could I bum a smoke? Uh yeah, sure. It's menthol though. Oh, never mind.

SPEAKER_03:

That's how you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like when you uh it's like when you mix all the drinks in a fountain. I was gonna say wild. It's like when you mix all the drinks in a fountain together. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, my my favorite with it though was uh nobody will take the smoke, but my favorite one to say when people would come up, they always like to say, uh, do you have an extra smoke? No, the pack only came with twenty.

SPEAKER_03:

I was gonna say, yeah, but that's also how you attract my people. Yeah, men pause.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I I didn't have, I mean, I I was working in Irvine, so to say the least. There weren't many of your people.

SPEAKER_03:

There were some of your people though.

SPEAKER_04:

Not my people. No, they're mine. A lot of white people. White people and Indian.

SPEAKER_03:

I figure that's a weird place for Asians to be. No, you can't be able to do that. Why are there so many like in the weirdest places? Like successful. They're in the rich places.

SPEAKER_00:

They're all the lawyers and doctors and dentists.

SPEAKER_03:

What was the state that the president was like, they're the Haitians are in the they're eating the cats, they're eating the Colorado. And I guess there's just a high population of Haitians there? Why the fuck are the Haitians there? Why are there so many Samoans in Washington? I need to know this. How do y'all pick which state y'all are going to? Like, okay, I get it. Mexicans in like Texas and California. It makes sense. It's Arizona makes sense. Yeah. You live out in the middle of fucking the ocean and you're forced to go to Washington.

SPEAKER_04:

And how did you go from tropical heat to frozen tundra? Yeah, like go back. This is a good place to be.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, why don't you go to freaking Florida? You know? Something closer to your climate, you know? Not even like go go back to the place you live. Like, why, you know? Why?

SPEAKER_04:

It's just crazy that that TJ's talking about his own people like this.

SPEAKER_03:

Fucking a lot of Asians too. Mostly Vietnamese. Why are you here? That's also tropical.

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_00:

I guess people don't like to live in tropical.

SPEAKER_04:

You're talking specifically Washington? Yeah. Like, why are there so many Vietnamese people here? Speaking of which, I liked your response to my TikTok where uh everybody in the Midwest and the South are going through a deep freeze. I don't know if you saw it, Eric, but I said uh I really can can uh I can not commiserate, I forget what I word, but I I understand what you're going through because the temperatures here plummeted as well, and I posted the temperature. It was partially sunny or partially cloudy and 66 degrees. Yeah, it's chilly. Everybody, everybody in the Midwest is like dying of freaking freezing cold.

SPEAKER_03:

Yours was 44.

SPEAKER_04:

You're like, that's a little warm for me.

SPEAKER_03:

It was like a high of 40s and then like a low of 30 something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I've been seeing all the reels of uh people in California being in shorts and sunglasses and a t-shirt, just being like, oh wow, like it sounds really bad for you guys. You know, yeah, like I woke up this morning and it was it was pretty chilly. I, you know, I had to put socks on before I went to bed. Like, we're trying to stay, we're trying to stay warm over here. You guys stay warm over there.

SPEAKER_04:

I got on a beach. I got a uh funny one that I commented on. The guy was over there, he's like, it's so cold out here that we ran out of firewood. So we've resorted to uh breaking up our cabinets, and he's outside with a cabinet door on his stairs, and he's like kicking it open. Then I realized this fucker's wearing shorts. So I commented that and he was like, I'm really glad that you noticed that. Like that the whole point was that I talked to my sister who's out in the Midwest, she's out in Missouri, and she was like, It's it's just winter. Like, I don't know why they're making such a big deal about it. The danger part was the ice, but you got the warning, right? Ice. This is an ice storm, so be careful.

SPEAKER_03:

Be careful, especially the the black ice, it'll sneak up on you. It'll sneak up on you, and it really will tear your family apart. Well, it's not as bad as this oppressive white snow. So tell me black ice didn't want to be here!

SPEAKER_04:

Tell me this, TJ. Was it the black ice that took the data away? No, that was the black. Or did he leave to go get the milk and just never come back?

SPEAKER_03:

It was the black milk.

SPEAKER_04:

It was the black milk?

SPEAKER_03:

Black milk. That's a you know what? That's a nude that we're gonna start that. We're gonna make black milk, and I think people would drink it. Goths. That sounds awful. We'll target towards goths.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you imagine milk that was black? I all I can imagine is what chemicals. We could use squid ink. You know what? That can't be good to say.

SPEAKER_04:

We could make we could make black milk and it would be perfectly harmless. I could do it right this minute.

SPEAKER_00:

What's your crazy thought?

SPEAKER_04:

You have you have any ideas what I'm thinking, TJ? You're gonna try to milk me. Wow. Wow. I I don't think that would come out black. Wait, what what movie is that from? Uh Meet the Falkers. Yeah. I have nipples, Greg. You can you milk me? But it would be milk with activated charcoal. It would turn it black, but it wouldn't do anything, wouldn't harm you in any way.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, there's black water. There's a company that sells black water.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, uh we need a company that's drink water.

SPEAKER_03:

It'll give something for Eric's dog to drink. Okay. You bring up one time. He has water.

SPEAKER_00:

That's not how he got it.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, but like I'm convinced I know how he got that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you got the stereotypical crusty white dog, my guy.

SPEAKER_04:

And he's living.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm fairly certain I know how he got Giardia.

SPEAKER_04:

I was thinking it was because he had he had drank the sewer water when I was working on the plumbing.

SPEAKER_00:

No, that's what he was that's what TJ was. That's what I was thinking. I don't think that's gonna happen. I think Cozy also does put everything in his damn mouth. Yeah, and so he drinks rainwater and shit all the time. So it's not entirely surprising that he got geared up.

SPEAKER_04:

Rainwater by itself is not terrible. They say nowadays rainwater in Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, they they say nowadays uh major cities have too much crap in their air that when it rains, it brings down all these, I think they call them forever particles or something like that. They they're just things that are in the atmosphere now that the rain catches on the way down and makes it not entirely safe to drink.

SPEAKER_04:

Back in the 80s, they used to call that acid rain.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Um I think I think you know you should take uh Cozy to one of his favorite places, the LA River. Let him drink, let him take a sip.

SPEAKER_00:

It literally has signs that says don't go swimming, you'll get a skin infection.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my god. I've seen dudes float down the LA River on a big pink and float like floating flamingo.

SPEAKER_00:

I would never. It's a sewer, basically.

SPEAKER_03:

I would like, dude, we're gonna make it to Long Beach.

SPEAKER_04:

You guys know what an estuary is, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

The the estuary is where the river meets the ocean.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

There is a very, very, very large estuary in Long Beach where the LA River meets the Long Beach Harbor. And it's inside of the harbor, meaning that it's all blocked off by jetties and and uh man-made docks, if you will. And you could take these like sunset cruises, which are really nice. There's a lot of sea life out there. You see seals, you see uh whales, you see all kinds of cool animals out there. But when you go far west, you get close to the estuary, and you can see where the LA River water meets the ocean water, and it's just this like brown mass of water.

SPEAKER_03:

I'll show you what. This is why where I'm from, we have a thing called the Tacoma Aroma. Um there was a some sort of factory that was dumping into the river. And I show you what it looks like right now. Pull this bitch out. We're so off topic, but that's just how we roll, baby.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean I think we've really talked about all there really is to talk about the movie. I was just planning to end the episode, to be honest, but we're we've just been talking about everything else. Okay, so estuaries and whatnot.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep. Okay, that's what water looks like, right? Yep. So we come up here, there's Tacoma. Right? Uh-huh. Do you see that? Hold on. Yep. I'm like, Ew. Yep. It's like backwards on the camera. I'm trying to like line it up for you.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, we see it though. That's so gross. It like so like you see the river, it comes up from like here, and then it just dumps into this beautiful sound that we're so proud of up here.

SPEAKER_04:

And it's to me, it looks it looks gray. I would call it gray water.

SPEAKER_03:

That's brown, green. That's awful. That's from the Puallop River.

SPEAKER_04:

That's awful.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, and what's crazy is that's a we got a bunch of different colored rivers over here. We got the White River. Hold on, where the fuck is that? It's like over here somewhere. No? I think this is the White River. Lovely color. Anyways. Wow. I seen that on maps one day, and I was just like, uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

So I've got a I've got a weird uh little pop quiz for you guys. You guys happen to remember how long ago we recorded uh Maze Runner?

SPEAKER_03:

I wasn't here for that one.

SPEAKER_04:

So it was that long ago, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And yet we had just recently got a comment from Maze Runner fan that said, I love this. Thanks. I'm a big Maze Runner fan. I was on Spotify. So speaking of which, those of you who are listening to us on Spotify, you can leave your comments and we do see them. And so when we uh start bringing up these controversial topics, please feel free to jump in and tell us your opinion. And then I don't remember what episode this is from, guys, but here's a question from uh Blackfire. Why why are they so savage about the name Mallory? I have a friend named Mallory, she's actually a very nice girl. I don't remember what we were talking about.

SPEAKER_00:

When did we clown we clearly didn't mean it? I don't remember clowning Mallory. Uh the only thing. But now that you mention it, what a stupid name. No, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_03:

The only thing I think can think that that's from is the uh uh what's it the one where we were like news reporters. Oh, maybe. Where we were shouting out a bunch of names.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_03:

That could have been. That could have been. That's what I think it might be, but all right.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I feel like we have discussed all there was to discuss about this movie. Um, I think it was really good. I definitely think it's worth a watch. I think the the trippiness of it is very intentional with the movie, and the open interpretation at the end is kind of fun if you're into that kind of thing. Uh, but I also think just as a horror slash psychological thriller, it was very interesting and and fun. Um yeah, I think it's kind of mild on the horror side. Uh spooky in all the good ways. Um any final thoughts from you guys?

SPEAKER_04:

Um I thought it was a pretty interesting movie. Gave different perspective. I thought uh I kind of thought it was tied to a different movie, but I was completely wrong. It doesn't seem to be tied to anything. And uh fun movie though. Interesting. I like that you you called it like dropping tabs. I said it was a fever dream. But you know, we're getting to the same core concept.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I think it was a good movie. I think that uh Yeah, I liked it. It was very trippy. Um I'm waiting for the sequel, the uh Twink in the Sink.

SPEAKER_00:

Um just gonna start coming up with a bunch of those.

SPEAKER_03:

The black in the back.

SPEAKER_00:

Um for those comments alone, and not because this was already predetermined, our winner will be drum roll Alex.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey! I already gave my winner speech. There's really nothing interesting to say other than please leave your comments on any of our social media so we can read them out. Like this one. Big Mac. Hey guys, just came across your podcast. I love all things zombies, and so far your podcast is to die for. I love the pun.

SPEAKER_03:

That's why we should get a lot of things.

SPEAKER_04:

You probably already know you probably already know about a lot of Easter eggs, behind the scenes info, etc. I want to bring up about the dead franchise. This is Eric's favorite for those of you who follow along with the podcast. He loves the dead series, you know, Dawn of the Dead. Uh well, Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead. But you said you you just make fun of the titling.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Uh well, I just I confuse them all. It's another of the dead movie.

SPEAKER_04:

So here's a little uh fun fact that uh Big Mac brings out. Tucker actually plays a zombie in Land of the Dead. That's the one with Big Daddy. He's the butcher zombie with the cleaver. Now, this one I actually did know, and uh also this one. Tom Savini was in the original George Romero. Uh he said Day of the Dead, but he meant means Dawn of the Dead, and he played one of the bikers that attacks them all. And he's also Sex Machine in uh From Dust Till Dawn. Hmm. You guys are too young for those movies, aren't you? I think so. Anyway, thank you for the comments, guys. You can leave your comments in Spotify. It lets you uh chat with us in their comments. Please uh let us know what you think, what's your favorite episode, and you can also hit us up on any of our social medias TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. Just search Will You Survive the Podcast, and you will find us there. Please interact with us, share this with your family and friends so that when the zombie apocalypse begins, you will survive. Also, you can email us, send your emails to the boys at Will You SurviveThePodcast.com. That's T-H-E-B-O-Y-S at Will You SurviveThePodcast.com. And we will see you there.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you wrap it up? Are we done? Oh, I have to say something. There's still something, yeah. Um, Alex won, great movie. Go watch it. He said everything, uh, ditto. And uh stay alive.

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