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The curtain falls on Season 5 with a high-stakes showdown as TJ and Eric find themselves deadlocked with 10 season points each. To break this unprecedented tie, host Alex devises a brilliant challenge: correctly guess how he would rank all seventeen survival movies they've covered this season.

What unfolds is a masterclass in friendship dynamics as the co-hosts attempt to channel Alex's perspective on films ranging from zombie apocalypses to alien invasions. The ranking system cleverly considers Alex's subjective opinion, survival realism, entertainment value, and storytelling quality, creating a multi-dimensional analysis of each movie.

The revelations come fast and furious as Alex's true rankings shatter expectations. War of the Worlds earns surprising praise, The Purge trilogy rankings completely invert what the hosts remembered, and the heated debate over which film deserves the coveted "iconic" slot (Cast Away or Signs?) showcases just how personally we connect with survival stories.

What makes this finale special isn't just the competitive element, but the fascinating psychological dance as TJ and Eric frequently identify Alex's correct opinion before talking themselves out of it. Their analysis reveals deeper truths about how we evaluate survival scenarios in fiction – do we prioritize practical skills displayed, scenario realism, or pure entertainment value?

After passionate debates, plot breakdowns, and numerous butter-up attempts toward their bald-headed host, the competition culminates in a shocking announcement – both hosts tie in their predictions, leading to the first-ever joint season championship in the podcast's history.

Whether you're a survival film enthusiast or simply enjoy listening to friends who know each other almost too well, this season finale perfectly encapsulates what makes Will You Survive special: equal parts survival analysis, film criticism, and genuine friendship.

What survival movie would you rank as iconic? Let us know at theboys@willyousurvivethepodcast.com!

Speaker 1:

Hello survivors and welcome to another episode of Will you Survive.

Speaker 2:

The Podcast. Holy shit, you have energy.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that was some good energy. That was a response right there. That comes from my co-host, tj, that's me, and I'm also joined by our other co-host, eric.

Speaker 3:

I'm aware of your game, tj. Sorry, I just hit the mic. I'm aware of your game, tj.

Speaker 2:

I know what you're doing here no, I've just been sipping on this real good, uh adult apple juice.

Speaker 1:

It's really good, I'm gonna have me some of that as well. Today we're gonna be doing our top tier list because we're rounding out another season for all of you survivors who've stuck with us this far. We're about to get started on season six of will you survive, the podcast, so thank you for helping us make it this far six, that's pretty wild.

Speaker 3:

Six, six it is pretty wild. We've done three seasons with tj.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, and you guys didn't even, like you know, celebrate my one year back in March. Just saying I forgot to. It's fine, dang. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I am so, so sorry, so sorry, that we didn't celebrate your one year anniversary. Do you know what I'm going to do for you to make amends for that, what I am going on vacation next week and we are not going to record an episode.

Speaker 2:

I think me and Eric should record one by ourselves.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you could totally do that. Oh, I would love to do that we could do that.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it'd be funny. I feel like we could come up with something.

Speaker 3:

Wait, okay, but that also makes sense because of where we know the season points lie.

Speaker 2:

Are we going to bring that up? Do you want to tell him? We can tell him.

Speaker 3:

I don't know I feel like he's going to find out eventually. Maybe we should just say it now. Okay, first off. So he tallied up the season.

Speaker 2:

Thank you all. Thank you all for such a great season. I would like to thank the Academy. So the way seasons points work is every time you win an episode, you get one season point and you can also gain them from Josh. Oh wait.

Speaker 3:

That's actually not true. What do you mean Technically? The way we set it up is that whoever won would get three points, whoever got second place would get one point and the host would get zero points. Right, so technically our calculations are very wrong. But if we go just by one point per win, then he has the numbers for us.

Speaker 2:

That's yeah, but that's how I'd see it. We're rewriting the Constitution. There's nothing wrong with rewriting the Constitution.

Speaker 1:

There's absolutely something wrong with rewriting the Constitution. It's called an amendment Because you need unanimous consent to amend the Constitution.

Speaker 2:

No, we need a majority vote.

Speaker 3:

I do not. Two thirds right no, vote for I I no constitution. No, we need a majority vote.

Speaker 2:

I I do not right.

Speaker 3:

No, hey, eric no, uh, vote for I. Uh, yeah, I I no cool josh passed through the house.

Speaker 2:

Uh, okay, so basically it was, I didn't read it, I'm the host veto I didn't read it.

Speaker 3:

It came out. It came through at 11 30 at night. I didn't have time to read it. I got a veto. Basically, guys, guys, guys Vote to overrule his veto Say aye, aye, no, well, that's two thirds.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Alex, you have an astounding six points. Eric, you, considering that you didn't calculate this right you have an astounding 10 points.

Speaker 3:

And TJ.

Speaker 2:

Hi, that's me, TJ. You have an astounding 10 points, me and.

Speaker 3:

Eric are tied. But If we take the season points the way they're supposed to be and each win is 3, I never got additional season points From Josh. Tj did. So technically I think my 10 wins. If I get 3 points per win, that's 30 points To TJ's however many he actually won versus how many points Josh gave him. So by technicalities I think I would be winning, but we're tied for this episode, so you're going to be breaking the tie for who wins this season.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's going to make this game so much more fun. Have I ever told you how great your head looks bald I flattery works flattery works because I'm gonna read, you listen, how the categories are going to be based. Oh, you know order of importance.

Speaker 2:

You know how I like make fun of your bald head all the time.

Speaker 3:

That's just because I have like a really yeah, I'm just really insecure about my hair, you know I really wish I could pull off such a bald-headed look.

Speaker 2:

I'll send you a picture of me. When I was bald, I shaved my head and I don't look good, it's just really.

Speaker 3:

So you hate bald people.

Speaker 2:

I really appreciate a good, nice bald head.

Speaker 1:

So the way the points are going to be tallied today are we are going to do a quick coin toss, which, thankfully, I happen to have a coin you happen to have a coin right here. I was going to use a challenge coin, but it works Because there are. If I'm counting right, there are 17 movies, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2:

3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, 17.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wait a minute. Which one am I missing?

Speaker 3:

You want me to run through?

Speaker 1:

them yeah.

Speaker 3:

Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 1:

Yep Conjuring.

Speaker 3:

Yep Grey, yep Martian, yep Conjuring 2. Yep Avatar, yep Life of Pi. Yep war of the worlds, yep cooties, yep castaway, yep day before tomorrow day after.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, uh, purge one, two and three. Oh, I didn't calculate purge three because it's not out yet.

Speaker 2:

That's why that's good, we did record it oh, oh, but this will be so when this comes out. It'll be after that, so we gotta add yeah, okay, fellas the categories, there will be no tie.

Speaker 1:

Okay, because bold of you to assume whoever gets the coin toss gets to go first, meaning if you guys tie all the way through, the winner of the coin toss is going to get the last shot at winning this episode oh, so it's like getting white in chess because they're the.

Speaker 1:

They're the uh, the first goer, if you will. 17 means there's not going to be a tie. The way that this is going to be calculated is categories are based on in order of importance. Alex's purely subjective opinion oh great, survival skills displayed in the movie, entertainment quality and the story told, namely about survival. But I'm okay if you can manipulate your argument into the uh, the happening. I have all of mine categorized here okay, so just to clarify.

Speaker 3:

Uh, number one is alex's opinion yep. Number two is survival skills yep. Number three is entertainment quality yep.

Speaker 1:

Number four is the story told, survival, specifically specifically survival, but you guys can manipulate my vote on that okay now, I've already categorized all of mine.

Speaker 1:

Oh god, okay, and I want to give you both a hint. There are. Let me see. We've got one, two, three. There are no bad or awful in my categories. I chose no bad or awful. What you guys are going to do is pick what you believe I rated the movie. Oh, winner goes first, based on the categories that I've laid out here. Oh, you're going to guess what I picked the movie to be, and the one who gets the most right wins.

Speaker 3:

I forget how you rated the.

Speaker 1:

Conjuring. Okay, I think we got to go to.

Speaker 3:

Avatars on this list.

Speaker 1:

There's no bad or awful there's no bad or awful fuck you, so you admit no, I'm talking shit to him, just saying so you admit hey, if it, if it helps you, I said shit in that podcast episode that would tip you off to that. Okay, we're going to do cards against humanity rules. It took a poop last Poop pooped last, most recent.

Speaker 3:

Oh man, Mine was yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Damn, did you poop yesterday? Yeah, I like that. I pooped late at night Fuck off guys Jeez, all right, all right.

Speaker 3:

I had to wake up and go to work. Today I didn't have time.

Speaker 1:

I pooped today, so oh, okay, so Fucking poopy monster TJ wins. Tj, call it you ready. Three, two, one, call it Heads.

Speaker 3:

It is tails.

Speaker 2:

Ha ha A loser.

Speaker 1:

That's not very sportsmanlike, that's not very sportsmanlike, but that's not how we're rating points today.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that wasn't one of his qualifiers.

Speaker 1:

I do appreciate jeering and taunting. This is not your ordinary sport.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I will clarify.

Speaker 2:

If you taunt or heckle me, it can affect your points. Alex, you're fucking gorgeous as a human being. This is going well.

Speaker 1:

Butter me up, butter me up, Okay, Eric you get to go first. I'm going in order of the episodes as recorded. So Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 3:

Hey guys, turns out I don't really like passion fruit that much, sorry, side note. Okay, it's a new flavor, didn't like it? Dawn of the Dead when do I think you rated this? Your opinion, okay. So should we just give our ratings and then explain why we gave our ratings?

Speaker 1:

Yes, okay, I mean, you can walk it through, you can talk it. Okay, I mean, you can walk it through, you can talk it out.

Speaker 3:

I don't want to give him anything, though.

Speaker 1:

He doesn't get to guess your movie.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

This is all you.

Speaker 3:

But there's 17 movies, yep, okay. Well, I'll see, I feel like.

Speaker 1:

I should get a chance to steal.

Speaker 2:

Wouldn't that be more Like if he gets it completely wrong?

Speaker 1:

you know, Well, okay, he's completely wrong, you know? Well, okay, like he's like wait until?

Speaker 3:

are we getting ahead of you? Wait, wait, wait until, wait until the end. Okay, so you've thought it through, got it okay? Donna the dead I I don't think iconic, because I think you would think the older one is iconic, not not the 2004 version but I'm pretty sure you see this as an s-tier movie.

Speaker 3:

All right put it down, if you're, if you're done because I mean mean, I don't even think I really have to say too much more, but I know you love this movie. That's your first category. Second category I think there's a lot of survival skills in this, especially when it comes to like just being resourceful and not being stupid. Number three entertainment quality. There was a lot of stupidity. The zombie picked up a propane tank yeah, blew it up like feet away from the bus.

Speaker 1:

That was pretty crazy, um I will say this this will. This will lead you guys down all the rest of the movies, too. Good points, what you're, what you're suggesting, what I do want to say entertainment quality. One of the things that we actually mentioned in the episode as well was the fact that, well, you and I mentioned it in the first go-round, the episode that we did of this was the news broadcast, but we did talk about how director Zack Snyder used real amputees. So that's part of the entertainment quality.

Speaker 3:

But carry on. Yeah, 100%. I also think that this kind of ties into your first point as well. I think you would really like the fact that it's all practical effects Okay, and they show that in the bonus features and the story is just a good story, a good story about survival.

Speaker 1:

So pretty solid. Put it on the board.

Speaker 2:

Eric, you suck Anyways. So what I was going to add to that is that yes, Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1:

We're not going to do add-ons to these movies yet.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you freaking loser, I'm just saying Open your ears. Your episode on that movie was absolutely iconic. That's all I have to say. That was a great fucking episode. We're not rating the episode, I know, I'm just saying I just you know that was. His episode was iconic and it was.

Speaker 1:

This is good. Hey, hey, hey, don't disagree with the buttering up of the host that can cost you.

Speaker 3:

This guy's nose is looking brown, and it's not because he's black.

Speaker 1:

All right, TJ your go Conjuring the first one. How did I rate that movie?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I got no idea.

Speaker 2:

I personally feel like you rated it good. I got nothing else From your vibe. I feel like you would say it was a good movie.

Speaker 1:

From my vibe you're going, alex's purely subjective opinion. I don't think you would put it up a good movie from my vibe you're going.

Speaker 2:

I don't alex's purely subjective opinion of the dead I don't think okay put it right below that. I think it was all right it's a good movie, so good is that.

Speaker 1:

Is that enough said? Enough said good enough, said okay good wow, I think that's kind of crazy okay, all right, that's confidence right there that.

Speaker 3:

That was you just went quick, purely subjective opinion.

Speaker 1:

Now, mind you guys, this going to get more difficult as we go.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Eric the gray.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I'm not going to lie. I think you say this is good. Okay, I'm going to do the exact same thing.

Speaker 1:

Tj said, nuff said Nuff said you say, I say it's good, yeah, now here's where I mean.

Speaker 3:

do you want me to say a little more on it? Because I could.

Speaker 1:

You could, but here's where, instead, I'm going to challenge you a bit. Okay, do I place this above or below the Conjuring?

Speaker 3:

I thought you were going to do that. I think you put this below the Conjuring, truthfully, because the Conjuring was such an iconic movie. When it came out Nobody fucking knew about the Grey. It's not an awful movie, it's good. It's entertaining. Um, I don't think this is like a super incredible movie. It's good. Um, it's a little silly with the way the animals, especially the wolves, act. So I think that's a lot of the survival skills part of it. That's kind of like just a lot of the survival they had to do was not necessary because wolves wouldn't do that. Um, entertainment quality, I think, pretty solid. Uh, I think that was pretty good. And then the story I liked the ending. I don't know if you liked the ending. You don't like those endings where they cut off and they don't show you what happened.

Speaker 1:

So I think that would also be another reason to put it in good. They kind of they show them clashing. Yeah, the wolf was dead and he's barely breathing, but okay, so that's enough said. That's fairly good, but I said a lot the Martian TJ.

Speaker 2:

No, no, alex, you like science.

Speaker 1:

I do like science.

Speaker 2:

You like science?

Speaker 3:

Objection Leading the witness Overruled.

Speaker 1:

I'll allow it, damn But'll allow it, oh damn, but good, no, good, good work. That was good, right yeah.

Speaker 2:

What I'm trying to say is that out of all these movies, this is the most scientifically sound movie and it has a lot of great survival skills in it. Bro survived on Mars.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

For how long it was? Like 900 souls, um, yeah. So my personal opinion I would put it in iconic um, but for you I feel like you're slightly less of a nerd than I am, so I feel like either great or like low s so what do you want to? I'm going to put it in the top of great yeah, okay, that's what I'm doing. And then we've got.

Speaker 3:

All right Enough said. Can I just say Avatar has quite a lot of science in it.

Speaker 2:

It's called science fiction, but that's still science?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Because the Martian was factual.

Speaker 1:

Oh wait, You're skipping.

Speaker 2:

It's based on a true story the Conjuring 2.

Speaker 3:

The Conjuring 2 is your movie. Yeah, I know, but I was just bringing up the fact that Avatar has science and they survive on another planet with science. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1:

Just wanted to say.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Also, the Martian is not based on a true story, so that is also science fiction, fair fair, fair, point.

Speaker 2:

No, fucking nerd. Anyways, what did you know, that some guy?

Speaker 3:

didn't survive after getting straight man's podcast uh the conjuring 2 I uh miscalculated, because I was looking at this and going, oh, tj's gonna get all the conjuring ones. No, he's not. Um, so that sucks for me because I don't remember if you liked this one or not. Interesting, because I remember we disagreed on how we would rate the Conjuring movies. Yep, and it was not by much, and I don't remember the difference Really. I think we said that the first one is number one, but I think you guys said that you prefer the second one over the first one. All right, so if you put the first one in good, I think you would put the Conjuring 2 in great, and I think it might go under the Martian, because I do think you have a when it comes to survival skills. I think you have a lot of appreciation for the realism that was in the Martian, and also that's what Zack Snyder, who's the director.

Speaker 3:

Of which Of the Martian. Who was that?

Speaker 1:

That wasn't Zack Snyder. No, that's not Zack Snyder, that was the really crazy guy.

Speaker 3:

He only does like the, he does like Interstellar, he does like the crazy good movies.

Speaker 2:

It's not Christopher.

Speaker 1:

Nolan.

Speaker 2:

Christopher Nolan didn't do much.

Speaker 3:

You know, I can't remember who's the one that's like, if he calls you, you drop everything you're doing. All right all right Looking it up. Yeah, as soon as he's saying it, it's going to irritate me Ridley Scott, ridley Scott, yeah. Oh, not at all who I was thinking of.

Speaker 1:

Sound arguments, though.

Speaker 3:

I know you like the realism of the survival. It's a very entertaining movie. It tells a great story, so I definitely think it would be higher than the Conjuring.

Speaker 2:

I think the Conjuring, conjuring um, I think, the conjuring 2 is gonna go right under the martian in. Great, okay, fair. Now tj, yeah, avatar, bottom of good next question.

Speaker 1:

I'm just gonna say I think you fucked up there. I think you fucked up there I think you are very wrong hey, he was the whole episode.

Speaker 2:

He was like it's fucking pocahontas with aliens.

Speaker 3:

That is true, I do remember him saying that the whole episode. Should I say my disagreement, or is that going to come in later?

Speaker 3:

come in later, okay okay what yo who said that life of pie so this one's tough because I feel like you like this movie and there are some survival skills in the sense of like rationing and you know. So this one's tough, because I feel like you like this movie and there are some survival skills in the sense of like rationing and you know, surviving on a boat with a tiger, but also it's like the realism of surviving on a boat with a tiger is not very real. It's a pretty entertaining movie. It's long and it doesn't really feel like it.

Speaker 2:

I mean it does, but it doesn't. This would be classified as fiction.

Speaker 3:

Yes, this would be fiction. You're right, I think it does tell a great story, man, I don't know, I think Me personally, I'd put it in S tier. Me personally, I don't know if Alex puts it in S tier. No, I almost wonder if it goes into Iconic just because of what it is. Life of Pi is a very I can't believe I hadn't seen it until that moment. That movie is big and everybody knows it, so I don't know if Alex would put it in iconic, though it's kind of the thing.

Speaker 2:

I wish I could see his face to read his expressions.

Speaker 3:

He's not given anything, nothing. I've been staring. I've been staring and looking and saying certain key words to try and spark a reaction nothing, you just look at his s tier s tier great good, iconic.

Speaker 1:

Iconic, great good, bad. I like it.

Speaker 3:

Just look at me Iconic S Great good, bad, bad, bad.

Speaker 2:

It's in bad Now you got to put in bad because you said it's in bad.

Speaker 3:

No, I don't know. I really don't know where this goes. My considerations are if it goes in great above the Conjuring 2 or if it goes in good above the Conjuring. I don't know which one it falls into. I'm gonna say it goes in great above the conjuring, but below the Martian or vibes so you went great sorry, tj, it's gonna be a lot of ums to cut out with that that answer, cause I just could not figure out where that would go.

Speaker 2:

I leave some of them in for effect.

Speaker 3:

I'm so curious to know where you do place the life of five.

Speaker 1:

We will be telling you all and I will rationalize everything.

Speaker 2:

Just based on the fact that I know for a fact that he liked Conjuring 2 more than the first Conjuring. I don't know if that's a fact. You know what I'm going to say it with my chest. I think that's a fact but, like I think you're right, I've been making shit up.

Speaker 3:

It's been a while since I edited those. I think he said 2-1-3. I think that was the order you guys said it.

Speaker 2:

I said I think it's 1, 2, 3. To put it at the bottom, of good, because he said there's no bad or awful.

Speaker 3:

Unless he was fibbing us. I'm not I will double down.

Speaker 1:

There is no Let me make sure, let me double check here. Let me make sure, hold on, because I did this a little funky here. I didn't remember that we rated them great, good, bad. I thought we did letter grades.

Speaker 3:

We did. I switched it up.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, so okay.

Speaker 3:

I do think I fucked up. Well, I think great is A, good is B, because I do think yeah great is A, good is B.

Speaker 1:

So I beg your pardon. I owe you guys an apology, and for that I'm going to give you a hint there are two bads, and that's completely my fault.

Speaker 3:

I I lettered that wrong. Oh, that's okay.

Speaker 1:

Um, but I can also tell you that you have not come to either of those oh, okay, I think I know what two they are fuck.

Speaker 3:

So I think I know which two they are but also, like I don't know if I would qualify either of them as bad, well, I would.

Speaker 2:

I would definitely qualify at least one of them. It's a good watch. It's not a great movie. I think I know the ones that he likes in here, unless I'm just projecting.

Speaker 3:

I can only think of one that would go in bad. I can't think of the other one that would go in bad. Do you want to say which one you think? I'll say it I think we agree. I think Anarchy we both agree probably will go in bad.

Speaker 2:

That's one of the ones, yeah.

Speaker 3:

But then I don't know the other one. I was thinking 1408, but I thought that was kind of a good movie, 1408 is good Day After. Tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

I was thinking that too, but or I don't know, maybe in his brain, his glorious, glorious brain, behind the very shiny scalp.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I love it. I love it. It's very, very nice, give me more.

Speaker 2:

Maybe he doesn't like War of the Worlds, because it's not a very good movie.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's an interesting thought.

Speaker 3:

I thought that I also thought maybe Cooties, because it's a good bad movie, you know.

Speaker 2:

But I feel like he was fucking with cooties, dude.

Speaker 3:

I think he did too yeah.

Speaker 1:

You guys are like really making some strong points here, so Are we like almost persuading your answer.

Speaker 2:

Let's move on. He's like I'm changing all of my answers.

Speaker 3:

You both lose. So bad was C tier for you.

Speaker 1:

Bad was yes Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

So I've got oh cause Eric's decided to switch shit up.

Speaker 1:

I know, we're going to 1408. Eric.

Speaker 3:

Oh, uh, oh well, like I said, I don't think 1408 is bad and and I'm going to stand by that I'm going to say with my full chest but I don't think it's great. I think it's better than the Grey, so I think it goes right below the Conjuring in good, okay and reasons. I think we all like John Cusack, samuel L Jackson great character as well. I think the story was really well told. I love a good story where it's like you're trapped in the room and you can't get out and like he thought he got out but then he wasn't out, and love that um and I think you like those kind of psychological thrillers too, can I have?

Speaker 2:

can can we both have one hint about if there is anything in iconic?

Speaker 1:

Fair.

Speaker 2:

There are no iconics.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I kind of thought so I didn't think there would be.

Speaker 1:

I was like, because if it wasn't, Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, I was okay Actually. Oh, I'm so sorry. No, there is one, isn't there.

Speaker 1:

I'm so sorry there is one.

Speaker 3:

I know which one it is it might surprise you. I don't think so. Okay, Because if it's not what I think it is, then I'm disappointed.

Speaker 1:

Remember this is Alex's purely subjective opinion.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I get that. It would still be wrong In the order of importance 1408, I think, was a good movie.

Speaker 3:

I like the arrogance of the character. I think you also like that kind of character development where he realized he was kind of fucked. Very entertaining some survival, not really too much. That's why I don't think it's a great movie. It kind of falls more in a good and I think you seem to just enjoy the movie in general. So I'm going to go ahead and say right below Conjuring and good, right below Conjuring okay, alright, and TJ Signs it.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going to go ahead and say, right below conjuring and good, right below conjuring, okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

And TJ signs so tough one boys Really. I think it is because I really love this movie.

Speaker 3:

Me too.

Speaker 1:

So here's the thing. I've already made two mistakes in categorizing these things. So what we're going to do before we tally the points when we get all the way through. Before I tell you what I rated these, I'm going to speak on every one of these and let you guys change your answers.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

I was originally going to do a different thing and I'll let you guys argue each other's.

Speaker 3:

Does it not work with the way we have it?

Speaker 1:

Oh no, it works, but it's just that I fucked up. I said there was no iconic and I said there were no bads.

Speaker 3:

Ah, that's all right so.

Speaker 1:

I didn't want to leave it like that.

Speaker 3:

I mean I'm okay, are you okay? Tj.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, this episode is amazing. I love this.

Speaker 3:

I say that because, truthfully, I was going to put my answers where it wasn't going to matter. If you said there was no bad, it's like a YouTube rewind or a Spotify wrapped.

Speaker 2:

You know it's always a good thing. I love Spotify wrapped.

Speaker 3:

I genuinely don't think any of these movies are bad yet. No, and I think once we hit it like I was going to put certain ones in bad if I got them anyways.

Speaker 1:

Okay, alright, just as a statement.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so signs, signs. Looking at this list, I don't know if you would put it next to Dawn of the Dead, so maybe Great, just Below Life of Pi.

Speaker 3:

Okay, my turn.

Speaker 1:

It's your turn. War of the Worlds.

Speaker 2:

Quick, quick, quick, quick little. I'm getting in here. War of the Worlds just had another movie released where Ice Cube is Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick little. I'm getting in here. War of the Worlds just had another movie released where Ice Cube is.

Speaker 1:

I saw that.

Speaker 2:

On the computer the entire fucking time and I seen a clip where he's like watching his son run away from the goddamn tripods and he's like get out of there Run, and then his son dies and he's just like, oh, Anyways, run, and then his son dies and he's just like oh, anyways, I can literally hear him. When you did that, I could hear like he put his hands on his head.

Speaker 1:

He's like oh, I didn't see a trailer or anything, but I saw a photograph. It was a. It looked like a still from it and I seriously thought it was a parody like it was like somebody made an ai joke the actual fucking like ip of war of the worlds, that they just decided to make with fucking ice cube, as like I think he's like a national security something or other.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. That is hilarious, so we're gonna have to end up watching it.

Speaker 3:

It's going to be one of my picks, this thing is going to be so funny Of course Go on air. So War of the Worlds. I don't remember how you felt about this movie. I think you picked it. I'm pretty sure I did Because I remember I watched.

Speaker 1:

It would either be me or TJ.

Speaker 2:

No, I think I mentioned it, and then you picked it.

Speaker 3:

I picked it. Yeah, I watched like a really old, really bad version of that, that's right and I was about like 10 minutes in and I'm like this movie sucks.

Speaker 2:

I think you watched the War of the Worlds or something.

Speaker 3:

I don't even think it was that. Maybe it was bad. It was like 60s level movie, yep, and maybe like 80s but worse. But I was watching it and I was seriously telling Alex I was like this movie is so bad, like I don't know when Tom Cruise is going to come in and save this movie, but it is awful.

Speaker 1:

And he was like what are you?

Speaker 3:

talking about? And I was like dude, the scientist is so not believable. And he was like what are you talking?

Speaker 2:

about and I was like dude, the scientist is so not believable and he was like what scientist and that's when I realized dude, when is tom?

Speaker 3:

cruise gonna be in it was seriously like 15 minutes into the movie and I'm like dude, tom cruise must fucking kick ass in this movie.

Speaker 2:

Because this movie when did? When did they introduce the cruise?

Speaker 3:

dog. Yeah, I'm like holy shit. I would have thought the main character would be in here by now. Yeah, I was watching the wrong movie.

Speaker 1:

I knew it was the wrong movie. When you said you saw boobs yeah, I was like yeah there was nudity within the first five minutes. I don't think you're watching the right movie.

Speaker 2:

I watched the old Dawn of the Dead when we were supposed to watch the 2004. So I ended up skimming through the 2004 at like fucking 5x speed. Oh my God.

Speaker 3:

So, Tom Cruise, War of the Worlds man. I hate to keep putting Well.

Speaker 2:

He did say, there was stuff in bad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, let me try to think out loud here, but I personally don't care for this movie too much.

Speaker 3:

I don't think it's bad, I don't think it's great, I think I think uh, I think I would put it, I would honestly put it at the bottom of good, but I don't know if you would put it there. Okay, I think your opinion of it might be a little higher. I think you might find the survival aspect of it kind of unique and interesting. Um, it's. It's pretty similar in my mind to like um, what's that movie by jordan peele? The nope, yeah, the jean jacket in the sky. Yeah, it's kind of similar vibes to that in my opinion.

Speaker 2:

I hate you for what you just said. That is such an incorrect statement.

Speaker 3:

It collects them and spits out their blood.

Speaker 2:

That's the same thing. Gene Jacket did Not at all the same.

Speaker 3:

It's the same thing. You're just mad that I made that comparison.

Speaker 2:

No, the tripods in War of the Worlds were trying to inhabit the planet, make it habitable. Didn't end up working.

Speaker 3:

That's why they're making the blood vines. I didn't say they were the exact same. Just saying War of the Worlds, I think.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter what you think.

Speaker 3:

I hate to keep putting it here, but I think you would put it below the Conjuring and above 1408.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you can see how hesitant we are to put it higher Like stuff higher.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because, like low-key, we watched a couple of mid-tier movies this season.

Speaker 2:

Listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 3:

Remember how many episodes were this season Versus how many movies are on this list 17. It was actually quite a lot.

Speaker 2:

There was some mid-tier and then was some no movies. We just we went on no movie streak.

Speaker 1:

It was crazy remember these ratings based in the order of importance yeah, are purely on alex's subjective opinion.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm trying to consider. Okay, all right, that's his way of saying we're very off tj cootiesies Top of great.

Speaker 1:

Where did I put that?

Speaker 3:

Wow, that's a crazy stance to take. Go hard, or go home.

Speaker 2:

I believe that our beautiful host has fucking taste and this movie pretty much fucking Shakespeare. That is not where I would think you'd put it, Yo. That movie Fucking amazing, Okay, all right. So that movie Fucking amazing, Okay All right, so Cast Away.

Speaker 3:

Eric. Okay, this is so interesting.

Speaker 2:

Cast Aways.

Speaker 3:

Because I really feel like you could put it in iconic. Okay, but I also don't think you did Okay, although I do think it's an iconic movie. There is a different movie on this list that I think should be an iconic and even if you're wrong, or even if I'm wrong about that, I think you're wrong if it's not the one that I think. I think Cast Away goes at the top of S tier above Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 2:

I don't.

Speaker 3:

I think this is tough because I do think it should go in iconic, but I think the other one deserves to be an iconic, more Interesting. Maybe I don't know, I'm conflicting, don't?

Speaker 2:

be scared. I heard you was conflicting. I'm going to stick to this.

Speaker 1:

If you think it belongs somewhere. Remember, don't think like you, think like me.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to stick to this because, although I think this is a great movie, I think you admire the other one for what it did more. If that makes sense, I'm going to stick with this. I think it goes to the top of S.

Speaker 1:

Okay, now, day after tomorrow, mr TJ.

Speaker 2:

This is.

Speaker 3:

I personally think this one's pretty easy, Alex let's play a word association game.

Speaker 2:

If I say bad movie, what's your first thought? Oh geez, he's like day after tomorrow Got it, let's go.

Speaker 3:

Nothing even comes to my mind. Really, I can think of one, the Zombie's, the Beginning, oh God, the first thing I think about.

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness, gracious the.

Speaker 3:

Killer Babies, man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude the Zomb, that's killer babies man. Yeah, dude, zombabies. Okay, so there's two things on this list that are left that I think he would have possibly put in bad. He was really beefing with the family in Anarchy Purge Anarchy. Yeah, he was really on them and I got to rate both of my picks for bad. So I'm gonna have to say I think day after tomorrow goes into bed. I think you're right. Yeah, because there's no way the there's no way the first purge goes in the batter.

Speaker 2:

no, I don't think so I think you're right I think so too.

Speaker 3:

I think he liked Election Year better than the second one. Yep.

Speaker 2:

That's my choice. Lock it in.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it's locked in. All right, the Purge number one, eric I think it goes right under Life of Pi.

Speaker 3:

I think it's a great movie. I think you really enjoyed the Purge for the concept of it. I think we had our concerns with it, which is why it's not the top. I think it's not better than. I don't think you liked it better than cooties. I don't think you liked it better than the martian or the life of pie, but I think you did like it. And I think you liked it more than the conjuring too, because you seem to have you seem to not care for the conjurings as much as I do.

Speaker 2:

Um, I don't know if that's true, but it just kind of feels like, in fact, me and eric, we're gonna start a podcast where our first episode was going to be the conjuring uh, that is true.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, uh, survival skills for the purge, I think. Uh, arjun, there's just more examples of that than in um, like the conjuring 2. I think it is pretty entertaining as just a concept to kind of explore and, uh, the story on the first one was pretty well told. As I'm saying this, I do worry that it might actually go higher in the great category, but I'm going to leave it where it is.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right. The Purge 2, anarchy TJ.

Speaker 2:

Did he say there's one thing in bad? In my brain there's only one thing in bad. He said two. He said two, Mm-hmm Two. You said two, Mm-hmm One and iconic. Can you confirm, Alex? So I know this dirty liar isn't lying.

Speaker 1:

Your Honor I wouldn't, give him anything off of that. He's not lying, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

I trust you. I trust you, your word is your bond, because you're a good man All right.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate it. I appreciate this.

Speaker 2:

So clearly goes in the top of bad. Okay, we in the top of bad. Okay, we got one left.

Speaker 3:

Eric. Last but not least, I think election year is going to go in good and I think it's going to go under 1408, but above the gray. That's a weird place you think Like because I think election year is good but I think 1408. Just the twist at the end was very good by the time you get it's the purge again. But it was cool, it was great okay swap it out.

Speaker 1:

There would be a lot of swapping I would do if I were so writing all these for him so what I was originally gonna do and if you guys are still okay with it, even though I messed up a couple of things here I'm okay with that uh, what I was gonna do is let you guys go back through and reorder, but it would be TJ gets to try to reorder Eric's and Eric gets to try to reorder TJ's.

Speaker 1:

So you get an opportunity to earn a point. If you think that they miscategorize something and put it in the wrong category, you can recategorize it and either fuck it up entirely or earn a point.

Speaker 3:

I'm here for that. I like that.

Speaker 1:

So we will now start with tj on dawn of the dead. Would you like to reorder his? Do you think you can get a better point? And position in category counts 2004 was a great year.

Speaker 2:

There's some really good sour skittles y'all ever had sour skittle you're trying to uh.

Speaker 3:

What am I trying to say here? I don't even know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2:

Uh, personally I feel like eric, just as a human being just sucks, you know um, and I really tie shaking your head.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I really tie eric into.

Speaker 2:

You know this movie, so you know, treat this, you know, with a grain of salt. Don't know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:

donna the dead just say I put it in the right spot and let's move on. You did, I was trying to Jeez.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know, you agreed with me it's really hard for me to say this, but I agree with Eric. You saw her skin. It was so good I get it All right.

Speaker 1:

Okay, eric, would you change or leave alone the ranking in the Conjuring?

Speaker 3:

I think I'm going to leave it. I think it's the top of good in your opinion. I personally think the Conjuring is last year Interesting.

Speaker 1:

Okay, TJ the Grey, Would you change it or leave it the same?

Speaker 2:

Not going to lie, it's a pretty great list we put together. I think we'll keep it the same.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's only two or three things I would change.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so Eric the Martian.

Speaker 3:

Man, I was going to move it above Cooties, but I do think you really liked Cooties. I don't know. I do think I'm going to move the Martian above Cooties. I think the Martian is just an objectively better movie. Cooties is great, it's funny, it's got the comedy in it, but the Martian is just such a solid put-together movie and it has everything. It has tragedy, it has comedy, it has drama, it has everything. And Cooties was very much like a slapstick kind of comedy.

Speaker 1:

Okay, the Conjuring. 2. Tj leave it or move it.

Speaker 2:

We're going to cut out all this dead air. Um, I don't know, this is difficult.

Speaker 1:

Kinda wish I had sour Skittles now.

Speaker 2:

I'm eating Mike and Ike's now. Um, just the Ike's. So basically, I think somewhere in my brain it would make more sense if the Conjuring 2 was in the place of the Purge. Okay, but now that I see it there, I'm going to move it back.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right. Yeah, I kind of thought the same thing, where I'm like maybe it goes a little higher, but anytime you bring it higher, you're like I don't know, does it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm going to keep it in the same place.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. Okay, avatar Does it. Yeah, I'm going to keep it in the same place.

Speaker 3:

Interesting. Okay, avatar. Okay, I think he was wildly wrong on this one. I think you liked this movie more than you let on. Okay, I think. Yes, it is Pocahontas in space, but I think you did enjoy it and you admitted to me afterwards that you were more just fucking with us and you actually did enjoy the movie.

Speaker 1:

To be fair, everything that I said about that movie I said in the episode.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I think it isn't great just because it is, I'm pretty sure, one of the highest grossing films of all time. I think it goes above the Purge, below the Life of Pi. Well, actually, I don't know. I think it goes below the purge, below the life of Pi. Well, actually, I don't know, I think it goes below the purge for you. Okay, for me, this is an iconic movie.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've seen this in theaters when it was in 3D, and those little seed pod flying things, them motherfuckers, were popping out of the screen. It was great that was the first time I've ever seen a 3D 3D movie, the ones before that where it was the red and blue glasses, those fucking suck.

Speaker 3:

I don't know Coraline on those was really good. You've never seen Coraline.

Speaker 1:

That one sounds familiar, coraline could be a fun.

Speaker 2:

There's some survival in that we could watch that.

Speaker 3:

Love Coraline Good movie.

Speaker 2:

We're pushing the survival we really are.

Speaker 3:

We're like is there a possibility you could die? At all, okay, well then, survival what was? Okay, you did move it I moved avatar to great right below the purge and TJ is on life of pie.

Speaker 1:

Now you gonna're going to leave it.

Speaker 2:

I think it goes above cooties.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I'm, I don't. I don't disagree with that. I don't know if that would be the case with Alex, but I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm also noticing there's like a gradient of fucking faces. There's so many faces you know, it is a cover, I know, but, like you know, it is a cover, I know, but there's so many zoomed up faces.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I thought you were saying I was making faces.

Speaker 2:

That's funny, no, it's just like why is the dude in the gray and then the dude in the Martian doing the same?

Speaker 1:

It's true, the same exact pose, same look.

Speaker 3:

Castaway and Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2:

War of the Worlds and Conjuring the Devil made me do it.

Speaker 3:

They're both the same amount of distraught oh, I was gonna say castaway and tom cruise is like the same one, just mirror flipped okay, so fucking stupid ass jokes don't cut those, leave them is so life of pie is where you want it yeah, above cuties now

Speaker 2:

cuties not cuties.

Speaker 3:

Cuties is a movie on netflix that is very controversial said very controversial it just sounds like I said cuties, because I sound stupid sometimes all right, eric.

Speaker 1:

Yes the conjuring three the devil made me do Eric. Yes, the Conjuring 3. The Devil Made Me Do it. Are you going to leave it or move it?

Speaker 3:

I'm just going to move it above the Grey because I think it is just an objectively better movie than the Grey. I like the Grey, but it's just not a great movie, okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

TJ, I don't know 1408.

Speaker 1:

You're leaving it, you're moving it.

Speaker 2:

I think that goes above War of the Worlds.

Speaker 3:

Really Okay. Yeah, interesting, I'll go with that.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I don't disagree.

Speaker 1:

And that means my turn. Your turn for signs iconic.

Speaker 3:

I think that's an iconic movie just because we've referenced it so much, even, uh, just in passing, in several episodes. It is just such an iconic movie the way that they don't show the alien for so long and it really just builds up the suspense. And then, even when you do see the alien, it's still creepy and freaky. I love the storyline behind it. I think it's a little funny simply because you are like how could these aliens come to a planet that is 70% water when they have a problem with water? But maybe they didn't know they had a problem with water, I don't know. I still think it's an iconic movie just because of the impact that it's had on the genre and, I would say, on the world in general. Okay, all right, it's also one of the few alien movies that isn't just the us being attacked interesting, okay, tj yeah, war of the worlds.

Speaker 1:

I'm only in the same spot okay, same spot, cooties eric you leaving it, you moving it.

Speaker 3:

I think it's good where it is that is, I lost it.

Speaker 1:

Where is it?

Speaker 3:

uh, right below life is pie. Oh, there's a life of pie.

Speaker 2:

No, it'd be funny as if we both uh, if we both won like we tied and then we had to he's like there's supposed tied and then we had to double host.

Speaker 3:

He's like there's supposed to be no ties.

Speaker 2:

We had to double host. That'd be crazy. It would work out for next week.

Speaker 1:

Okay, tj, cast away, you leaving it, you moving it.

Speaker 2:

Move it up into iconic above signs. Okay, one of us is wrong.

Speaker 3:

You sticking with it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and day after tomorrow, eric, you leaving it, you moving it.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna leave it. I think it deserves where it's at. It deserves it.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Well, can I move it above Anarchy? No, yeah. I think it's a marginally better movie than Anarchy. That's crazy. It's not how he. Better movie than Anarchy.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy.

Speaker 1:

It's not how he feels.

Speaker 2:

It's how he feels.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you moved it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I moved it from the bottom of bad to the top of bad. Okay okay. I think you might agree that it's a marginally better movie than Anarchy.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and the Purge number one, TJ. You leaving it or you moving it?

Speaker 2:

the purg blessed be the founding fathers.

Speaker 1:

I think I'm gonna leave it you're gonna leave it all right, the purge two eric actually no, I'm gonna leave it.

Speaker 2:

I had to think about something real quick. No, it not going to work out.

Speaker 3:

I'm leaving Anarchy where it is.

Speaker 1:

Okay and TJ the PIRG 3 Election day. You leaving it, you moving it. Pirg 3.

Speaker 2:

Move it in the place of War of the Worlds real quick Again. Nah, I don't like it. Put it back.

Speaker 3:

We're leaving it Okay War of the Worlds real quick Again.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't like it, put it back. Okay, we're leaving it Okay.

Speaker 3:

All right, how do we do host?

Speaker 1:

Our votes are locked in here, so I'm going to tally up some points here real quick.

Speaker 2:

In the meantime, our socials TJ. I'm not going to do that until the host tells me to you can do the socials.

Speaker 1:

TJ, I'm not gonna do that till the host tells me to you can do the socials bitch.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna do it nice, slick and simple. If you like listening to three dudes talk about movies that they like or really hate, go check us out on all of our socials you can find us at. Will you survive the podcast on pretty much everything. Make sure to look us up on spotify, apple podcasts, whatever you listen to your podcasts on. You can even ask alexa to play our podcast and she'll do it we've made it that far, yeah I want to say thank you because we're famous we have consistently been on the top 10 charts on good pods.

Speaker 2:

Just saying, um, yeah, if you like gaming and eric wants to actually uh put a video out, go check out. Okay, wys gaming on uh, tiktok, uh, I think, I think I think we're really funny and Eric, actually you don't care, no, we actually like.

Speaker 3:

Eric, I only have a million other things going on Because he's short.

Speaker 2:

I'm just trying to give time for our host to. I'm ready. You can email us at theboys at willyousurvivethepodcastcom and yeah, you ready. Okay, I'm ready. Oh, you can email us At the boys At Will you survive the podcast dot com and, uh, yeah, you can send us suggestions On what we should watch. Or you can ask us questions, or Send me a thousand dollars and I'll get your name tattooed on me Anywhere but the face.

Speaker 1:

Anywhere, but the face. Now you're, now you're compromising.

Speaker 3:

Well, he's been saying that for a while.

Speaker 1:

I'm just fucking with him.

Speaker 2:

All right I would get it on my scalp, I think it would be funny First, if I could get a time check.

Speaker 1:

how are we doing?

Speaker 2:

We are at one hour and six minutes. There's probably at least six minutes to cut, so we're good, okay.

Speaker 3:

Oh wow, I thought we were way over time.

Speaker 1:

All right, so I'll go through this pretty quick. I have the tally and we have a winner. Okay, you guys were a lot closer than I thought you were going to be, but I'm going to tell you before I say anything. You guys know my mind a lot better than I thought you would, but you second-guessed yourselves, oh no. So Dawn of the Dead. You got right okay that's s1.

Speaker 1:

now, mind you, the other thing that I gave you another hint that you, you, I don't know you guys put it into your calculations is I graded this s, a, b, c, d and uh, awful. So there were no in S A, b, c, awful, that's how we, that's how I did it. So there were no awfuls.

Speaker 3:

The conjuring I had B, three, that was so we're world awards or war of the world, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I had it. I had it there because the conjuring was good. I had it there because the Conjuring was good. I thought it was scary. I had some criticism about it. I did like that. It was a very popular movie when it came out. I had my general critiques about the movie. I called it good for a couple of reasons. One because I remember watching this for the first time and it was um, it was a uh. What should we call it? Not strictly? Oh, bootleg there you go.

Speaker 1:

yeah, and it was so dark that you could barely see anything. So you weren't even scared when the scary things happened, because you're like what happened, what? So when I watched it for the first time, like legit, I was underwhelmed because it was still too dark. I was kind of upset. I'm like this is kind of a ridiculous way to shoot a movie like this. So that was where I put it B3, the gray I put in B2. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

You put the gray above the conjuring.

Speaker 1:

I put the gray above the conjuring. That is interesting and the reason why was because the conjuring was more in psychological survival, psychological, uh, trauma, and the Grey kind of kept us in the survival routine and I liked almost everything about the Grey. I did have some complaints about the end, but TJ straightened me out because he was like no, watch the credits, because it was in the credits that you see him lying there and the wolf was dead and he was barely breathing.

Speaker 2:

I was like I need you to give me a season point, like he's done, there's?

Speaker 1:

no, there's no other way around it. I did feel like the original when they just lunged at each other. I thought that left me hanging and I got so angry at that. You can assume that the wolf won that fight okay yeah, that's fine, but like why can't you just? Why can't you just?

Speaker 3:

I'm adding for me why? Why do you have to leave?

Speaker 1:

me hanging. So when dj corrected that, I was like okay, all right, this is, this was a good movie and that was where I left it. Uh, interesting the martian. This one's gonna shock you guys, because you made some really good points and a lot of this. I may have not taken good enough notes and I think I might have um undervalued the uh the watch experience, but I marked it as uh b1, so it was good, good one.

Speaker 1:

It was the top of wait, I thought the gray was b1 no, the uh gray was above the conjuring uh, but the martian was above the gray in good okay, that is very interesting.

Speaker 3:

I would never have guessed that I liked almost everything about it.

Speaker 1:

I loved his quips right, I'm the first colonizer of of mars, I'm a pirate. All of those little quips right, I'm the first colonizer of Mars, I'm a pirate. All of those little quips that he kept coming up with. I loved all of those things. There were some inconsistencies that really bothered me. The sandstorm could never have happened the way it happened. There is not enough atmosphere to cause that much damage. So there was a lot of plot, weaponry to move the story along, but still a good movie. Then we go to the Conjuring 2. Now this is where you guys forgot. You both said it, you both said it out loud. I think you liked it more Than the Conjuring 1. And you're absolutely right, I liked the Conjuring 2 a lot more than the Conjuring 1. I put it at A in the great category and you can put it at A4.

Speaker 3:

Oh, so just swapping Avatar and the Conjuring 2.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is really going to surprise you. Avatar belongs in A3. Okay, I told you guys that I really did like this movie. I had no complaints, other than the fact that it was Pocahontas in space.

Speaker 3:

I'm glad it reads a little higher.

Speaker 1:

But I was being the contrarian on the episode. I was being the contrarian on the episode. It was intended for comedic value and for suspense. I needed to be the what do you call it? The bad guy, the heel. I needed to be the heel of that episode. Life of Pi is in the right spot.

Speaker 3:

Okay, life of pi.

Speaker 1:

Uh is in the right spot okay and the conjuring three is in b4.

Speaker 3:

Okay, okay right under the conjuring yeah, okay, and so just so you guys don't get mad.

Speaker 1:

Uh, tj got the full point for that because he actually put it in the right spot, but it was moved later by other things and other things didn't get the point. So it all worked out In 1408, I put that in B6. Okay.

Speaker 3:

So above War of the Worlds, up below b6 okay, so above or the worlds and below.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is what's really going to shock you. Uh, 1408 was a really good, really fun movie. Uh, a lot of problems with it. Right, electronics aren't supposed to work in it, but yet he had his recorder working the whole time. He had his laptop to call his wife or his ex-wife.

Speaker 2:

Uh, just inconsistencies and problems, but the twists and turns made it all worth the watch what we're gonna do, josh, because I'm pretty sure we're gonna be close now eric, you make some very compelling arguments enough. It's not for signs to win by three points.

Speaker 3:

It is S2.

Speaker 1:

I thought so.

Speaker 3:

It's so iconic.

Speaker 1:

You make really good arguments. We will address this in a second War of the Worlds. Belongs in A2.

Speaker 3:

What. That's surprising, that's very shocking War of the.

Speaker 1:

Worlds. That is, that's surprising. That's very shocking. War of the worlds is a. It's an iconic story, but it's retold and it's, it's not great well, I mean, I I think the movie is is actually an excellent movie. I thought it was a lot fun, I thought they did a lot of things that were interesting and different and, uh, it was a very interesting take which this is the old take on the story that it was the bacteria of earth that killed the aliens not humans.

Speaker 3:

I like that. I think it's a good movie.

Speaker 1:

I personally don't think it's a great movie, but I actually love that movie and have watched it multiple times I'm so shocked you put it above cooties you guys are really going to be shocked, then cooties correct.

Speaker 3:

Josh goes to c2 you know, I'm actually not uh and that's uh bad right? Yeah, yeah, mind you knew it's a good, bad movie.

Speaker 1:

Mind you, I thought I was rating on grades A, b, c, so I was calling it like an average movie, not a bad movie the perfect mid-tier movie, yeah, but I think that's a good bad movie.

Speaker 2:

Basically, Eric fucked up the episode.

Speaker 3:

Well, I still think this is accurate Because I basically it's like shark movies, the, the episode. Well, I still think this is accurate because I would put like a lot of the shark movies in c as well.

Speaker 1:

It's just a good bad movie. It's a. It's a really good bad movie. I enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun.

Speaker 2:

There was a lot of stupidity to it, but but, alex, he had a truck with dual rear wheels. Yes, we know. Sorry, what was that? Dual rear, rear, dual rear wheels?

Speaker 1:

Yes, we know, sorry, what was that Dual?

Speaker 3:

rear wheels.

Speaker 2:

Dual rear wheels. Dual wheel rear wheel Dual dual.

Speaker 1:

dual Castaway belongs in Iconic. Fuck yeah, concrete nigga.

Speaker 3:

I was conflicted between Castaway and Signs, of which one I thought would go in Iconic.

Speaker 1:

That was a lock for me.

Speaker 3:

But that's why I said I was going to put Signs in Iconic, no matter what Bro.

Speaker 2:

Castaway, though you know, like Wilson.

Speaker 3:

That's like People still say, wilson you know, Even when I was arguing it, I was like there's no way Signs beats Castaway for the Iconic slot.

Speaker 1:

But that's why I think there should have been two. But now, the day after tomorrow, cj, put it in the right spot. Cj, tj. I have it. I have it written. C1 and then tj, so cj tj put it in the right spot. Then it got moved, then you moved it back. So I gave you both a point for that josh said dual wheel rears nice.

Speaker 2:

He said the purge and this one.

Speaker 1:

This one really interests me because both of you forgot exactly what I said. We rated this out of five. Do you remember that, tj? We rated all three movies out of five at the end of election day.

Speaker 2:

I do not remember the fucking. I think it was a five out of five so this?

Speaker 1:

actually, no one it was. It was three, five, four oh three, five, four. The Purge was B5.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

The Purge 2 was A5.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you liked Anarchy.

Speaker 1:

I liked Anarchy and Election Day was A6.

Speaker 3:

Well, I got to say I think you're just wrong, but that's fair.

Speaker 1:

I think TJ and I both rated the Purge in that same order.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just didn't remember. I don't remember you liking Anarchy.

Speaker 3:

I thought you really disliked Anarchy. He rated one higher than I did I think you said 4liked Anarchy.

Speaker 1:

He rated one higher than I did. I think you said 4, 5, 5. I think that was how you rated the three.

Speaker 3:

I think I said like 5, 3, 4.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure TJ and I were pretty close in our ratings of the Purge movies.

Speaker 2:

I know we were close.

Speaker 1:

One was the lowest for both of us.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay Well.

Speaker 1:

So that's the rating and that brings up the winner. Tj, do you want to do a drumroll?

Speaker 2:

I'll slap my titties, that's how we're looking for it.

Speaker 1:

And the winner is Eric.

Speaker 3:

Woo, how many points. I think I deserve this.

Speaker 1:

By a half a point. Get hey, josh. Nope, nope, I won hey.

Speaker 2:

Josh, do you want a screenshot?

Speaker 3:

what you already said in my chat 10 minutes ago this is the season finale. Josh, Please don't screw me on this.

Speaker 1:

Season finale. No, Josh, I think you should give me three points.

Speaker 3:

I don't think that would let you win still, yeah but it would take it away from both of you.

Speaker 1:

Guys would have to duke it out.

Speaker 3:

That is true, but I already won. We're going to have to have uh oh, is this the tiebreaker? Yeah, this is the tiebreaker.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you've just given up wait so if you get okay, josh, if you give tj three points, you're just gonna tie them again no, no in in my chat he said season point.

Speaker 3:

Gosh, are you really going to give TJ a season point Right at the end?

Speaker 1:

But you're going to get three points, aren't you?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, yeah, that's true, I get three points.

Speaker 1:

So you're up by two.

Speaker 3:

Technically.

Speaker 1:

If we run the numbers Season winner. Yeah, if we run the numbers.

Speaker 3:

I think I'm up by a lot more. But who's the season winner? I think it's me.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure from what you guys said. You came into this episode as a tie 10 and 10, 10 and 10 Eric won those aren't accurate numbers it's supposed to be three.

Speaker 3:

It's 10 times three for me, and then however many you won times three, plus the extra points that Josh gave you, which is probably like two or three. So I think ultimately I'm still up by like six to nine points.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Plus this episode. So I think it's fair to assume I won by the numbers, but I mean we can calculate if we want.

Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure I could go back and check how many he's given me.

Speaker 1:

And just so you guys know, this was all above board.

Speaker 2:

Wow so what was it. Josh, Was it? Was it three points or a season point?

Speaker 3:

Clarifying no, you could give them three game points, oh he's trying to give him three game points so that he wins this episode.

Speaker 2:

So that would up my season point.

Speaker 3:

Josh, I, oh, that doesn't that doesn't count, because you do you, josh. However, it's in the Constitution. This is the season finale, no no no.

Speaker 2:

Josh is in the Constitution. We wrote him into the Constitution.

Speaker 1:

He is. We definitely did. We definitely did. However, remember the game points are judged by the host.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, true, but Josh, he can just give them out.

Speaker 2:

He can give out three or one.

Speaker 1:

And he can absolutely give out any game points. However, remember that it's based on how the host judges the game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but you did say that I mean, this is against me. If I was smart I'd shut up here. You did say, I only won by a half point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so if I got three points, you only won the tier by half a point, but the episode.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1:

I guess we don't know the episode points. If I calculate how you guys buttered me up, how you argued, we both buttered up a lot. How you presented the reasoning behind all of your picks. I didn't do that just because I didn't want to bog down in calculating these points, but I really am surprised at how well you both know me, because you both most of the time and it really shocked me because most of the time you guys had the right answer and then you went against it I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Some of these were a little like.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I should get an extra point because I don't fucking live with you. I talk to you once a fucking week.

Speaker 3:

Well whose fault is that you could call him.

Speaker 2:

No, because I know he's a busy, busy person and he does a great job at his work.

Speaker 3:

So I don't want to bother him, I still call him.

Speaker 1:

Wait. So are you guys going to record an episode next week?

Speaker 3:

We might, Maybe we Eric.

Speaker 2:

Eric, eric, I don't know, Eric. I think this is how it should go.

Speaker 3:

Maybe we just record like a fuck around Eric.

Speaker 2:

I think we both win this episode, handshake deal. It's on camera, it's recorded. We both win. And then guess what? And then guess what Alex hosts Gepardy.

Speaker 3:

We force him to host Gepardy on the.

Speaker 2:

Because his name is Alex.

Speaker 1:

Oh fuck, that's just good. That's good stuff right there. I don't know how to do it, but we'll figure something out, I'm kind of down.

Speaker 3:

I'm kind of down for that because jeopardy is yeah, I was gonna bring jeopardy back at the beginning of the season. So so you lied, I definitely, yeah, absolutely, because I started out every season since I've been with Gepardy. Who could have seen that coming?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that is true. You did start out every season with it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay. Well then, I feel like that's just becoming a tradition, where we start every season with Gepardy and we end every season with the tier list.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'm down TJ.

Speaker 2:

Handshake deal. Double win Handshake. We split this win together. Yeah, I'm down. Tj handshake deal double win handshake.

Speaker 3:

We split this win together, we both win the season. And then and then our number one fan official will send us both trophies 3D printed trophies next week we could just do our celebratory podcast episode where we just talk about how awesome we are yeah, we could, we, yeah, we could do that wow, okay, shake you really should just talk about how awesome shaking the hand. Handshake deal has been confirmed we've won I won for the first time in wys history, there's two season winners.

Speaker 2:

I won dude, let's go. I what I? No, I'm joking I me myself. Josh said maybe not 3D printed, but sure you don't got two jobs.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, All right Wait so this is season five.

Speaker 3:

Right, this was season five. We're going into season six with two winners.

Speaker 2:

I think, josh, you got to get me and Eric something that says like season five winners.

Speaker 3:

I don't think we should if Josh can get us anything. But it'll be funny if you wanted to get something and then maybe, maybe Josh send it directly to TJ, because I'm apparently really bad at making it to the post office.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you suck Well the challenge coin still it's behind you dang by my tomato yo we can have a josh cameo next episode oh yeah that could be cool.

Speaker 3:

Wait, yeah, have him as our third for you, he could fill in for me special special guest host, but we'll call him Alex the whole time.

Speaker 2:

Don't address it whatsoever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, not at all, not at all. Just pretend like it's one of those sitcoms where they change a person and like We'll just be like, yeah, and we're joined here with a loser, Alex. Completely different person and they don't even like address it yeah, I'm kind of down for that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, either he can be a host, or we just like have him fucking record an audio or something because he might be working or something great episode, oh whoa whoops, great yeah, great episode. Now personally, I would put Code Black our episode on Iconic. It goes way above Cast Away, but you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but we didn't do that, so it's fine.

Speaker 2:

Next tier list.

Speaker 1:

Code Black is good. I'm ready for part two. Look, if we had to rate them, I guess it's part three.

Speaker 3:

I was going to put it in bad if we had to rate it. Wow, I guess it's part three.

Speaker 2:

I was going to put it in bad if we had to rate it. Wow, rate what Okay?

Speaker 3:

If we had to rate all the episode ideas, Look 1 to 100, S tier Code black. Bottom of good, Top bad.

Speaker 1:

Okay, tarp equals map.

Speaker 2:

Tarp does not.

Speaker 3:

Oh S tier.

Speaker 2:

S tier Tarp equals square, equals map.

Speaker 1:

Tarp equals square.

Speaker 3:

Square equals. Map tarp equals square square equals map.

Speaker 1:

I love it and I still stand by that logic. All right, you know what I'm gonna give you credit. You've stood by it the entire time I will not back down.

Speaker 3:

You have not now you have not.

Speaker 2:

That's okay, it's all right somehow got to turn that into a shirt host. Oh, get us, get us All right everybody.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for listening to this episode of will you survive the podcast. This is our season finale. We will be back with season six next time. We hope you keep downloading, keep telling Alexa to play our will you survive the podcast episodes and we will see you on the next time. Until then, stay alive.

Speaker 2:

Unless you lose a season. You suck Me, eric. We're legitness Also. Fuck you, dwayne Johnson. Thank you.

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