Will You Survive... The Podcast
Immerse yourself in the world of cinema as we embark on a journey to equip you with the skills to tackle any disaster head-on. Through the lens of thrilling tales, particularly those of the zombie apocalypse, we'll unravel the secrets of preparedness. Join us as we explore the silver screen to empower you for the challenges that lie ahead.
Will You Survive... The Podcast
Man vs. Beast: Could 100 Humans Defeat a Gorilla?
Ever wondered if sheer human numbers could overcome raw primal power? We tackle the bizarre question that's sparked countless bar debates: could 100 unarmed men defeat a single silverback gorilla in combat?
The numbers are staggering. A silverback possesses 4-9 times the strength of a trained athlete, can lift over 1,800 pounds, and sports a bite force exceeding 1,300 PSI. Their thick muscles and dense bones make them nearly impervious to blunt force trauma. But their Achilles' heel? Limited endurance—just 1-2 minutes of explosive strength before fatigue begins to set in.
We meticulously break down the combat mathematics: during those devastating initial minutes, the gorilla could eliminate 15-30 men with terrifying efficiency. The psychological impact of witnessing such carnage would trigger panic among many remaining fighters. The turning point comes when the beast begins to tire. Could a coordinated flanking maneuver with 20+ men restraining its limbs and vital areas turn the tide? Even then, experts suggest victory isn't guaranteed—a cornered, exhausted gorilla remains capable of breaking limbs and crushing windpipes with minimal effort.
What makes this thought experiment fascinating isn't just the physical matchup, but how it highlights human adaptability versus raw strength. When facing such a threat to protect loved ones, even the most civilized among us admitted they would resort to desperate measures without hesitation. The conversation takes unexpected turns with surprising gorilla anatomy facts (they have the smallest phallus of all apes!) while examining our primal protective instincts that emerge when survival is at stake.
Join us for this outrageous yet thought-provoking exploration of nature's power dynamics. Would you brave being in the first wave, or hang back for the coordinated takedown? Listen and decide where you'd stand when facing nature's perfect killing machine.
Welcome, welcome back to who Will Survive. It's a new segment. That's pretty good who will survive 100 men or one silverback gorilla.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Will you?
Speaker 2:survive. I asked ChatGPT could 100 men beat a silverback gorilla? It says no. 100 unarmed men would almost certainly not beat a silverback gorilla in a fair fight, especially in an open environment. Here's why Strength A silverback is four to nine times greater than a trained human athlete. It can lift over 1,800 pounds and has a bite force of over 1,300 PSI.
Speaker 1:Durability.
Speaker 2:Hang on. Let me finish the answer Durability. Gorillas have thick muscles, dense bones and an insane pain threshold. Blunt force doesn't phase them like it would a human Speed and aggression. It can charge at 20 to 25 miles per hour, tear limbs and climb with ease. It fights to kill, not just to subdue and tactics. A hundred men can't all attack at once. In a tight space they're bottlenecked, and in an open space they scatter or get picked off, unless the men are trained, armed or tactically coordinated like a military unit, and even then it's risky. The gorilla's raw physical superiority means it would likely tear through the crowd until it's overwhelmed by sheer exhaustion or injury, if at all.
Speaker 3:So Is that the end?
Speaker 2:That's the end.
Speaker 3:Okay, tj, do you want to go first?
Speaker 1:Yes. What would we like to clarify? Does the gorilla have infinite stamina? No, have you seen gorillas fight? It says it only lasts for like a minute maybe, okay.
Speaker 2:So let's ask yeah, would. Would the gorilla's low endurance?
Speaker 3:Well, why don't we confirm that? First Ask how long could a gorilla fight with sustained strength. Is that a good question, TJ? I think so. How long could a gorilla fight with sustained strength?
Speaker 2:With sustained strength. Okay, sure Chow. Gpt says A silverback gorilla can fight with sustained explosive strength for about one to two minutes, maybe slightly longer if it's highly agitated or defending its troop. That might not sound long, but during that time it could easily maim or kill multiple opponents. Here's the breakdown. Muscle type gorillas have a lot of fast twitch muscle fibers. Great for bursts of power, not endurance. Cardiovascular limitations. Like most great apes, gorillas are not built for long chases or prolonged combat. They tire quickly after intense effort. Behaviorally, in the wild gorilla fights rarely last more than a few seconds to a minute. They usually end in bluff charges or quick, brutal exchanges. That said, even tired quote, a gorilla is still stronger than any human and can lash out if cornered or provoked.
Speaker 3:So there's something that we need to clarify. With chat GPT, I don't think it understands that we're talking about 100 men at the same time, not one after the other after the other.
Speaker 2:Yes, but it said in an earlier answer. It said 100 men can't all attack at once. In a tight space they bottleneck, and in an open space they scatter or get picked off. Reminder that it can charge 20 to 25 miles an hour real quick, right. So it can charge through eight men at one time with little exhaustion there and that's just running.
Speaker 3:That's not even doing anything which is why I said it would easily start decimating in the first minute to two minutes. It would decimate that hundred. It would drop down to 90. We could drop down to 80, no problem. However, after that period, once it charges in and men flank it, now how could that gorilla continue to fight?
Speaker 2:we ask chat gtp this how many men would it take to hold down a gorilla's? And what I'm saying no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3:What I want to ask is I want to ask a continuation of its previous answer. So would your answer be different if 20 men flanked the gorilla from behind as it was attacking to hold it down? I don't.
Speaker 2:Okay, just ask it. I think a better question. No, just ask it my question. No, how many men would it take You're fucking up the To hold down a gorilla's arm?
Speaker 3:No, While it's attacking, see, because we already established that it's a minute to two minutes. It's exhausting.
Speaker 2:This is how we find out how many men would it take to hold down a gorilla's arm.
Speaker 3:But we're not talking about. While it's fresh we're talking about, it's already begun its attack. It decimates 20 men, no problem, right, do you think it?
Speaker 1:would kill in two minutes. We could say 30 dudes.
Speaker 2:So I'm asking ChatGPT how many men do you think it would kill in two minutes, in two minutes of all outrage? A silverback gorilla could likely severely injure or kill 15 to 30 unarmed men maybe more 30 men. Depending on the environment and how the men approach.
Speaker 3:Okay, so you have 70 men taking on an exhausted gorilla.
Speaker 2:Here's how the estimate breaks down One hit potential A gorilla could knock a man out or kill him with a single punch, bite or throw. Limbs could be broken or skulls fractured. Instantly Attack speed Conservatively if it lands a devastating hit every 3 to five seconds. That's 12 to 14 men every 12 to 40 men every two minutes. Uh, area control in a tight group it could grab, toss, bite and stomp rapidly if they swarm him poorly. Area control in a tight group it could grab, toss, bite and stop, stomp rapidly. If they swarm him poorly, he could take out more before tiring Caveat. If the men coordinate, sacrifice some to distract and use improvised tools and use improvised tools, the number goes down. But if they panic or charge in waves, the gorilla will absolutely paint the arena red.
Speaker 3:Okay, but you didn't ask the question that I wanted to ask what did you want to ask? I want to ask what are the chances? How likely would the gorilla's victory be if 20 men flanked behind it to hold it down after it's already exhausted, after it killed the first 30?
Speaker 2:How likely would the gorilla's victory be if 20 men flanked it from behind?
Speaker 3:And held it down.
Speaker 2:After Whilst tired From behind and held it down whilst being exhausted. Sure Okay, From killing the first 30 men. No 100 gorillas versus 20 men.
Speaker 2:If 20 men flanked and swarmed a silverback gorilla from behind after it had already killed 30 men and was physically exhausted, its chances of victory drop. But it's still not guaranteed the men win. Here's the breakdown Factors favoring the men Fatigue After two minutes of berserk fighting. The gorilla would be significantly winded. Its burst of power would slow and reaction time might drop. Surprise flank A winded Its burst of power would slow and reaction time might drop. Surprise flank. A coordinated attack from behind exploits its blind spot and reduces its ability to defend effectively.
Speaker 2:Weight and numbers 20 adult men average 150 to 200 pounds. Each Adds up to 3,000 to 4,000 pounds. That could be enough to pin the gorilla temporarily. But problems arise. That's in bold Holding. It is another story. Holding down a 400 to 500 pound beast with the strength of eight nfl linemen isn't easy. It can still twist, bite and throw bodies. Injuries pile up, even tired. It could snap limbs and crush wind pipes. Of those on top, fear factor there are unarmed, untrained men. Panic and hesitation can turn a coordinated pin into a bloodbath. The verdict chances of gorilla victory 30 to 50%. No, that's higher than I thought. If even a few men slip or lose grip, it could break free and resume carnage. Chances of human victory 50 to 70%, but at severe cost multiple deaths and injuries, even in success.
Speaker 3:That's interesting. That's higher than I would have thought. My next question would be if the men are capable of surviving after seven minutes of sustained grappling.
Speaker 2:You gotta remember well, I think the better question is what would men survive for seven minutes? Or does it even think that men could survive for seven minutes?
Speaker 3:well we've. I think at this point we've gotten well past. We were at a minute well, it's already wiped.
Speaker 1:30 are wiped in the first two minutes, probably injured because they were the ones pinning, trying and what, what I, what I?
Speaker 3:was actually what I was hoping to accomplish, in that we're saying pinning, but what I was hoping to accomplish is grabbing its arms and holding it, because if it's you or I tj on the front, what are you gonna go for on that gorilla? Nuts or that's exactly right. Nuts, throat, eyes. You're not going for heavily guarded areas. You're not going to jump on its arms and flail you're. You're going for its wind pipe, you're going for its nuts. You're going for its, its soft tissue femoral artery.
Speaker 1:I need to survive. I'm grabbing the arms off the ground from the 30 men and I'm just shoving it down his throat.
Speaker 2:Just chuck it. I asked how many men would it take to hold down an exhausted gorilla? It said to physically hold down an exhausted gorilla silverback gorilla you'd likely need at least 20 to 30 strong, coordinated adult men, and even then it's a high-risk struggle. Here's why Gorilla specs, even exhausted, weigh 400 to 500 pounds of solid muscle, can still bench the equivalent of 1,800 pounds. Even fatigued, its muscles are denser and more explosive than a human's. A tired gorilla is still stronger than 99% of men's flesh.
Speaker 1:He is glazing this fucking gorilla.
Speaker 3:It really is, because it's like we're we're not talking about one man at a time and it keeps putting it.
Speaker 2:Human effort needed. It is not doing that. Human effort needed. Four to six to pin limbs, two plus per limb, ideally. Now here's what I want to consider Two plus per, I said 20. Four to six to pin limbs here's, and that's just each limb. Here's my thought. Where are those men standing?
Speaker 3:Behind it. Behind it, you're bringing its arms down on top of you.
Speaker 2:Two to four, to control the head and torso, minimizing bites and thrashing.
Speaker 3:Right, we have 70.
Speaker 2:Five to 10 more to back up when the first group gets injured or overpowered. That's assuming these are fit, coordinated, unarmed men with no restraints or tools. Realistically, if they're not trained and don't act in sync, even 30 might fail. If they use tools, nets, ropes, shields, the number drops. If the gorilla has zero fight left and is just struggling reflexively, maybe 12 to 15 strong men could restrain it safely mean we're talking about 70 but so here's my question yes, 70 men.
Speaker 2:If you just imagine 70 against one, if you just imagine as numbers, sure think realistically. Where are these men standing? How are they holding it down? How are 70 men?
Speaker 1:that's a lot of people no, I'm not talking about 70 men holding it down I said 20 men, that's five per limb okay, hold on and a silverback gorilla is freaking huge let's see how big a silverback gorilla arm is oh it says, want a visual diagram or tier list of human versus visual diagram you can't get that many people in that small an area.
Speaker 3:We're not talking about necessarily a small area no, but that's what I imagined we said, if they walked into, if the gorilla came into a village?
Speaker 1:no, but how long is the silverback? And then, to finish it, on google it says gorilla wiener what kind of stuff do you look up? No, it just like filled it in. This is like a common thing you're you ready you're ready, you're ready, you ready, yeah, I. I need your guys's guesses. How long is the silverback wiener?
Speaker 3:oh, oh. How long is the oscar meyer?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna say very hopeful 12 eric it's a it's a 12 incher man, I feel like that shit can get at least to like 18 inches. All right, you ready yeah do you see buffy's good?
Speaker 1:news we're competing with gorillas. They only got a 1.1. What the fuck? You are lying A around three centimeters.
Speaker 2:What the hell they have the smallest phallus of all apes, bitch. How do they make babies?
Speaker 3:You know what I'm going to start saying. I'm going to start saying I'm hung like a silverback gorilla and see who knows.
Speaker 2:That's pretty good.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 2:I will admit, men have a better chance than I thought they did. But I think if you add I don't know I think if you watch 30 men be decimated in less than two minutes.
Speaker 3:But you're to talk You're not talking about. This is a run and get away type of situation. What? Either you or the gorilla are going down 100 men or it's going to get through the 100 men and take out all of your women and children. You are all that stands in the way.
Speaker 2:I think you overestimate me.
Speaker 3:You are your family's survival.
Speaker 2:I think you overestimate me. You are your family's survival.
Speaker 3:I think you overestimate me. No, not me. I'll gladly go. My problem is is I would probably be the first wave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we're not talking about one man, we're talking about 100 men.
Speaker 3:I'm saying I would probably be the first wave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know If we're talking completely bloodlusted dudes.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute, buffy Buffy. What dudes? Wait a minute, buffy buffy. What are you talking about? You talking about my uh, hung like a silverback gorilla comment? Or are you talking about the uh, the way that most men will stand and guard their family from a silverback gorilla? I need to know. She said same way most men do. That could go either way. Either she heard my comment on standing in the way of my family protecting them from the gorilla, or I'm hung like a silverback gorilla. I got to add something to the side of my life.
Speaker 1:I got to add a photo.
Speaker 3:She was talking about the three centimeter. That's comedy, buffy. Thank you and welcome back. Love to see you, love to see the regulars.
Speaker 2:I asked Chachi Petit so re-evaluate what are the odds that men win. It gives a couple of things, but final verdict If the men are strong, brave and act in perfect unison, they'll likely win, but at the cost of serious injuries and possibly a few deaths if they fumble. The gorilla makes a terrifying comeback, wow.
Speaker 3:I mean it's not as cut and dry.
Speaker 2:I think in a real world situation, men lose Without tools, If tools are added, which is what mankind is known for. If tools are added, we win 100% of the time.
Speaker 3:But I'm with TJ. The second arms or legs are on the floor.
Speaker 2:I don't think people are going to have that same. I would I don't know, I think.
Speaker 3:You got two out of three in this Discord who would do the same exact thing. Tj you would. You say you would Panic chain reaction.
Speaker 2:This is odds of the gorilla.
Speaker 3:Screams, blood and fear could disrupt the group's hold, especially if bites or limbs break. If I'm standing, if I'm standing in the way of my wife and my two babies getting mauled by a silverback gorilla, I'm not just saying that I would grab limbs off the ground. I'm telling you I would. I would bite. It's three centimeters off, with no shame.
Speaker 2:Remember the gorilla will use to the tools also, it would, it would I think odds are a hundred men and this is talking about a hundred strong, brave, imperfect unison men could win, and that's not even a hundred percent what are you doing, tj, look at the line.
Speaker 3:What did you do?
Speaker 1:What did you do? Oh my, god Alright. This is my least favorite.
Speaker 3:That didn't take much neck rig to cover it up. Oh, my goodness gracious, the duck in the house. Thank you, you.
