Will You Survive... The Podcast
Immerse yourself in the world of cinema as we embark on a journey to equip you with the skills to tackle any disaster head-on. Through the lens of thrilling tales, particularly those of the zombie apocalypse, we'll unravel the secrets of preparedness. Join us as we explore the silver screen to empower you for the challenges that lie ahead.
Will You Survive... The Podcast
Will you survive "the conjuring": Haunted Houses & Holy Water
We watch the 2013 horror classic The Conjuring and examine how spiritual survival differs from physical survival in the face of demonic possession. Through our signature humor and candid conversation, we explore what it would take to survive a haunting.
• Discussing whether we believe in ghosts and demons and how they might exist in our world
• Exploring TJ's theory that ghosts are fragments of human souls that break off during traumatic moments
• Analyzing universal myths about spiritual entities across different cultures and religions
• Debating the importance of claiming spiritual authority when confronted with demonic entities
• Sharing personal experiences with unexplained phenomena in our own homes
• Examining the film's portrayal of Ed and Lorraine Warren versus the real-life controversy
• Highlighting the importance of family unity and communication during supernatural threats
Send us your movie suggestions and feedback at theboys@willyousurvivethepodcast.com or find us on social media @WillYouSurviveThePodcast.
Hello survivors and welcome to. Will you Survive?
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Speaker 1:Podcast. My name is Eric. I am your host today. I'm the host because I won last episode, because I'm just really really good at what did we do last time. It was a handshake deal. It was a what? It was a handshake deal. Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2:I'm very good. Do you remember what we did last time? That was the best episode ever. It was the news.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right. Yeah, I'm really good at diplomacy. It's kind of why I'm here, but I'm joined by my two co-hosts, Alex the offended.
Speaker 2:That's me.
Speaker 1:And TJ the loser.
Speaker 3:I didn't lose, I just didn't win.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to go like this. I thought you were going to be like Alex, the offended, and TJ, the offender. Caution.
Speaker 3:Caution no.
Speaker 1:TJ's the.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no yeah.
Speaker 1:Yep yep Whoa, that's not what we're cautioning.
Speaker 3:Caution, caution. Alex has a fly rink A what I don't know. You told us what that was.
Speaker 1:I thought you would have got that and I forgot.
Speaker 3:I didn't tell you what it was. He's already derailing. You Wait, is that a bald thing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, that's right, I do remember that Host. He's already derailing you. I'm here for it. You want to know why? Because so the movie that we watched, oh, audience, hello. What we do here. We watch a movie, usually something with some sort of survival aspect to it, and then we discuss said survival aspects and whether or not we believe that we would even survive said situation. We normally stick to survival or zombies in particular, but I decided to derail us a little bit and go more supernatural, paranormal, demonic, which is the conjuring, which in my opinion, is one of the greatest horror movies of all time. Uh, and I think it, it poses a different sort of survival, not so much, I mean, there is physical survival in this, but spiritual and paranormal. Uh, so I kind of just want to open it up. Anybody have any particular thoughts about this movie? You, so I?
Speaker 2:kind of just want to open it up. Anybody have any particular thoughts about this movie? You want me to read the storyline since this was 2013?
Speaker 3:Yeah, sure, we always do. Why are we deviating?
Speaker 1:I feel like that should have been the other thing. Well, we actually haven't for quite a while.
Speaker 2:Really no, we have. We have, I guess for every movie we have.
Speaker 1:We just haven't done a movie. Yeah, no, no, we haven't. Oh, did you read the Dawn of the Dead?
Speaker 3:No, technically. Yeah, our last episode was a movie. Because we were live, we watched one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I watched two actually. Yeah, but that was like a whole separate episode. Anyways, what are your thoughts, Alex?
Speaker 2:Well, in 1971, carolyn and Roger Perron moved their family into a dilapidated Rhode Island farmhouse, and soon strange things started happening around it, with escalating nightmarish terror. In desperation, carolyn contacts the noted paranormal investigators ed and lorraine warren to examine the house. What the warrens discover is a whole area steeped in a satanic haunting that is now targeting the perron family wherever they go. To stop this evil, the warrens will have to call upon their skills and supernatural strength to defeat this spectral menace at its source that threatens to destroy everyone involved.
Speaker 1:TJ knows the exact moment that I noticed Necro coming from the tree. He saw the exact moment I saw that.
Speaker 2:That's all Josh is going to do. I still didn't see it. That's comedy.
Speaker 1:There was a distinct look that hit my face and I clocked.
Speaker 3:TJ noticing it.
Speaker 2:I was waiting for somebody to say something that's a beautiful idea.
Speaker 1:So basically, nekrik is the demon of this movie, apparently Beth Nekrik I think that might be its name. Nekrik is the demon of this movie, apparently Beth Nekrik.
Speaker 2:I think that might be its name, Nekrik.
Speaker 1:So I guess I kind of want to start. I believe I know where. Well, I'm 100% certain. I know where Alex and I stand on this. But, tj, do you believe let's start with do you believe in ghosts? I?
Speaker 3:believe that it could be possible. You believe in ghosts. I believe that it could be possible. I feel no. So like. What I think is like it's a little different than ghosts, but it's also like the same. I think like little pieces of yourself, when you're alive, break off, like you know, pieces of your soul or something, and like that's your, that's the ghosts, you know, like I. I think like it's not just dead, it's not dead people per se. I think it's like you know, like stuck in a think, like it's not just dead, it's not dead people per se. I think it's like you know, like stuck in a time loop, kind of thing, Like the spirit is.
Speaker 3:When something traumatizing happens, I feel like a piece of you breaks off, and that's what haunts you Interesting. So this is the real life type you know like, and then we kind of, just you know, do you even demons? Uh, I have been baptized. Does not answer my question.
Speaker 1:Didn't need to answer your question, just you know it's, it's possible, it's, it's possible I mean, I know people who have been baptized, who don't believe anything because they're baptized as a baby well, I was baptized as a fully sentient being, and you know the communal hot tub in
Speaker 2:the middle of church you're still not fucking fully sentient. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Aren't you only like three-fifths sentient or something like that? Oh?
Speaker 3:You have three-fifths of a fucking normal forehead. Oh my God, that was hardcore right there, Sorry you might have to cut that one, your young Sheldon-ass shirt over there, alex why is it coming after you?
Speaker 1:what did you do?
Speaker 3:actually the death star is not from star trek, it's from star wars I actually got that.
Speaker 2:That was funny. I I had to look down at my shirt.
Speaker 1:I was like oh shit yeah, you can't make fun of me. I'm wearing my silly, nice, I mean relativity. Uh, your hairline is forever expanding, forever expanding backwards.
Speaker 3:Until it collapses in on itself.
Speaker 2:Judging by Newton's law, your size means you have your own gravitational pull.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I pull more bitches than you.
Speaker 1:Sure you do. Both of you are in very committed relationships and cannot fool around, so well, I mean I can, I just would have devastating results this is a lovely my wife.
Speaker 2:Well, it actually makes perfect sense when you think about it. We're talking about demonic activity here maddie, he called you a demon.
Speaker 3:What did, I do they're getting drunk fucking playing. What are you playing? She's getting drunk playing fucking roblox. That's. That's who she is wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Are you following the constitution? What's?
Speaker 1:yeah I got a drink, like judge requests oj doesn't count judge requests evidence the alcoholic arizona, arizona, my guy. Oh, ew really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, I believe you.
Speaker 2:TikTok, mine is apple juice.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's the funny sleepy Arizona, Mine is almond juice.
Speaker 1:Why are we not talking about that's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 3:So the conjuring, I think-.
Speaker 2:So what's your favorite?
Speaker 3:alcohol. Speaking of demons, I've been living with my inner demons of my alcoholism for years um.
Speaker 2:Oh no, you know, uh, we're gonna go there this is gonna turn into an aa meeting real quick yeah, I don't prefer holy water.
Speaker 3:I prefer, uh prefer that demon water myself, oh so you almost had that one.
Speaker 2:You almost had that one.
Speaker 3:I don't prefer holy water, I prefer spirits I literally thought of that after I said what I said you know, anytime I think of holy water.
Speaker 1:Now I think of the ending to the nun, where that she kills the demon by, uh, keeping jesus's blood in her mouth and then spitting it all over the demon when she comes out of the water, which so josh josh said something good they introduced the nun in the second Conjuring movie.
Speaker 2:Relationships are like hockey Just because the other team has a goalie doesn't mean I can't score.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I read that. Yeah, they did introduce the nun in the second Conjuring. I think it was that demon and then the nun was like how that demon came about?
Speaker 2:Actually, if you want to go deep into it, in the video that ed and lorraine warren are reviewing, the old uh farmer, that's the one that goes full circle when you finish, the nun, that's the guy who gets possessed at the end at the end of the nun yeah cool so they tied. They tied the whole universe together so.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing this is based on real people, this is based on a true story.
Speaker 3:The demon's name is Valak. I was trying to think of it. Yeah, the second one, that's the nun.
Speaker 1:This one was Bathsheba and it was a witch who committed her soul to Satan and killed herself and warning, kind of gruesome stuff. But it's an old movie. I think we're all desensitized as a society at this point. All desensitized as a society at this point, um, but where, where do we stand on how true we think this story is, because obviously hollywood's gonna exaggerate it. But how much of it do you think really?
Speaker 3:happened. I think it's highly embellished because uh miss uh warren herself. Uh was a lorraine warren, she was like a consult for this movie. So I figure that you know she didn't want too much of, you know she didn't want it to seem like it was ass. Like you know, the family the real family, because this is based on a true story said that they were not helpful at all and they kind of just made it worse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they ended up kicking them out of the house because they couldn't do anything for them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there, there was never a uh exorcism.
Speaker 2:It was like it was like a big deal that that um Ed and this part was, I think, consistent in this story in the movie to what was said in real life was Ed was insistent on pulling Lorraine out of that house. He didn't want her there. Um, he also kept telling the Perron family that they had to seek help through the faith that they couldn't do anything to help them. And so when you go back in time, you read what was happening contextually yeah, they say that the Warrens were kicked out. It sounds pretty violent in that regard, but the tensions were high.
Speaker 2:Man, the family was scared, the dad was desperate, he was angry that there was nothing they could do. They're telling him what he needed to do, but there was going to be no immediate results. And that was just like look, this is not going to be something that you're going to get rid of tomorrow. You're in a bind and you need to seek real help. You're in a bind and you need to seek real help and so that. But there's a lot of cases in the um, the upper Northeast, that the Warrens consulted on, several that never. Well, one of them, I think they finally made a movie out of it I don't remember the name of it.
Speaker 3:They actually consulted on uh, the Amityville.
Speaker 2:Amityville horror, yeah, but the one that was the most devastating to me was a book. I read it in high school for a free reading period. I remember my teacher thought that I was reading um, like comic book level stuff, and then she saw what it was.
Speaker 2:She was like are you okay? I think she. I think what she asked me was are things okay at home? I was reading the devil in Connecticut, which is one of the stories that the Warrens consulted on. It was a story about a child named David Glatzel, nine years old.
Speaker 1:I think that's what the third Conjuring is based off of. That's what I was wondering. I don't know if it's that definitely made me do it.
Speaker 2:I don't know if, yeah, yeah, yeah, arnie Johnson, yeah, then I want to see that one.
Speaker 3:I want to watch it when we end this at like one in the morning. Yeah, like um, should we just go through all the conjurings, dude? We just pick out the I'm super, super down.
Speaker 1:Um, really quick. I want to take a second. Uh, a guy in our chat said I'm not child or cop, so in this situation of the first Conjuring movie, I think I'd be fine and you know what I like that logic. He'd be right. That is the logic we often take. Also, mellow Jello, thank you for the. I forget what that's called. What is that? What is that? What is?
Speaker 2:that Donuts.
Speaker 1:Well, the donuts in the heart me in my chat what he said wow, josh, I really appreciate josh, he wants me to crop the picture that I have on screen so you can have it as a screen saver.
Speaker 3:Thank you, I think that's hilarious.
Speaker 2:Look, I can make him walk around too, you can make nekrik walk around, and nekrik really is the demon of the show this, sorry, sorry, go, take me on life. Neckrick become Jamaican.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he started speaking in Jamaican patois.
Speaker 3:Jamaican me crazy man.
Speaker 1:Okay. That just sounds like Hermes from Futurama. Sorry podcast audience and listeners, you'll just have to tune in for the live to see stuff like that happening. Nonsensical behavior, nonsensical behavior. So this movie movie obviously highly exaggerated. I assumed the exorcism was definitely not something that really happened not, not that it was recorded uh, do we believe they were being haunted by a demon?
Speaker 2:I do and they they made that point in the movie that was fairly good was the demon possessed the mother who unalived her child and that was the reason why she did it. And it's funny because tj's explanation of what he thinks, uh, ghost haunting is this would have fit the description pretty well, because it was people who were traumatized in their death and that trauma carried that, that energy along. Remember, the law of physics is clear on that Energy does not get destroyed, energy transforms. So to say that the human spirit or human soul or whatever you want to call it, that keeps the human alive, that separates us from any non-sentient. What do they call it? Sentient meat? Anything that makes us different, like that Soul, spirit, karma, whatever you'd do they call it sentient meat?
Speaker 2:Uh, anything that makes us different, like that soul, spirit, um, karma, whatever you'd want to call it. That's what transforms at our death and it becomes something else. It does not go away. There's no way in the laws of of nature, energy can't just go. Now you could say it trend it. It travels to dimension. I don't know if I believe that it's possible, because interdimensional travel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, interdimensional travel. After the third dimension, interdimensional travel becomes a possibility.
Speaker 1:Randallizer, what is up? We are recording a podcast episode at the moment. Thanks for subscribing Mellow Jello. Thank you for subscribing to us. What the heck? Thank you.
Speaker 3:But the way I think of like different planes of existence is kind of like you know, 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D, so like it kind of folds in on itself and then that creates another little pocket. So I think of it like kind of like how Ant-Man has the quantum realm type shit. You shrink down small enough, you get to another place Like Horton. Here is a who type beat.
Speaker 1:Man, I just can't wait till they make 4D printers, you know 4D printers.
Speaker 3:You print a fucking universe. Who are you, rick? You print a ghost.
Speaker 1:It's like I made a whole universe to power, my car, the scientist in there, you wouldn't understand.
Speaker 3:It's called a teenyverse. They go in a little bit deeper. I created this miniverse.
Speaker 1:That's literally the the whole fucking marvel cinematic universe right there it's, it's getting to that point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, getting well. Yeah, you know, it wasn't all multiversal shit, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh my god after end game it got too far? Yeah, no, because I think so.
Speaker 3:It's multiverse but like hear me out though robert downey jr's coming back as dr doom.
Speaker 1:I think that's kind of funny, no that that makes me not want to watch it. I'm not going to lie. That makes me not want to watch it, I feel like, that'll have an emotional impact though. No, I think it has a way more emotional impact if he's gone.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, he is gone. Iron man is gone.
Speaker 1:No, but no, come on, nobody watched it for iron man. We watched it for robert downey jr, who was iron man, you know. So that's like I don't know. It's kind of like when, when logic was like this is my last album, I'm retiring, I'm done. And then a year later he was like here's my new album and I'm like all right man, like I, I'm glad, but true, but you gotta, you gotta be into it in order to you know, because like in the Loki show you go through like learning about variants and shit like that, because like Loki's dead but he's not, because there are other versions of him you know,
Speaker 1:Because, like the one that happened in, like Infinity War, that Loki, our main Loki gone forever, the one who got beat up by hulk and stark towers during the first avengers, gone. But is he?
Speaker 3:I mean it could have happened in other, because it's the, it's the, it's the same loki, but it just kind of branched.
Speaker 1:We're getting into shit that's not involving the and and this is why it lost me because it sucks, when you could just say well, anything can happen, because it just happens in a different universe. It's based on fucking comic books bro. Then nothing fucking happens.
Speaker 3:Nobody ever stays dead in a comic book, unless it's like Walking Dead. And they don't even stay dead, they get up.
Speaker 1:You're speaking nothing but facts here.
Speaker 2:Okay, back to the conjuring so I I think probably the only things that we can go into survival about are some of the basics in. In a situation where you're being scared, you're getting afraid, of course, the the obvious answer is you need to stay grounded. You need to stay calm the best way you can. Uh, they did the smart thing the family all huddled together downstairs and slept in the living room. That's a good temporary solution. I don't. I don't think that's going to work forever. Of course, everybody needs time alone and this thing's going to just pick on you when you're by yourself, at least for comfort you need to stay grounded to the earth.
Speaker 3:Smoke on the peace pipe.
Speaker 2:Actually, it's funny that that you say grounded to the earth, because I on the peace pipe. Actually, it's funny that you say grounded to the earth.
Speaker 1:What about the peace pipe?
Speaker 2:That's actually not the peace pipe part. I actually think smoking the peace pipe can actually open you up to some activity, if you will. Many think that one of the things the family did not do, that I don't know how, how different people across different faiths will interpret this, but setting boundaries, asserting dominance, asserting authority, claiming your authority over the location. Many different religions all say the same thing in that regard that if you're being haunted by a demonic presence, that's a must. You must proclaim authority over it. And what is your source, what is your authority?
Speaker 1:And so if we talk about, like, bringing the Bible into it, which is in this case what you'd be doing, essentially, you're given the power from Jesus, from God, to handle these types of things, so bolstering what you were saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you bring the Bible into it. Jesus said I've given you the power to heal the sick, raise the dead and cast out demons. So the problem is that's the difficulty of faith. You have to completely trust, right? We've heard teachers say hang your body on that belief and be willing to die for it.
Speaker 1:So it's an interesting thing, because that's one of those things where now we're getting into a kind of religious thing where in somebody's faith walk it's easy to it's easy to get to the point where you feel that but you're not 100 there, right where you're, like I, I believe in god, right, I, I understand that, all the fundamentals of being a christian, I'm there. But in the face of an actual demon that is haunting you, are you able to stand firm and say my God gives me authority over you?
Speaker 1:Because to stand face to face to a demon and say that I don't think people, I think people fantasize it in their mind, because even I was at moments in this movie where I'm like I'm watching a Hollywood film and I'm jumping and startled and spooked and realizing that like an actual demon in your presence is going to bring so much raw fear and to be able to combat that, it just really adds that perspective that I'm scared of a movie, yet alone an actual evil entity that wants me to fall. So it's a little bit easier to fantasize and say like, yeah, I could definitely do that, I could just stand up to it. But to actually do that, I think, is a lot different.
Speaker 2:The scarier thing about it is many different literary sources. There's an author by the name of Jonathan Kahn. There's old-timey people like CS Lewis. They all write the same kind of interpretation that demons don't do this often. This isn't a common thing, it's happened all throughout history. And there's also some really awesome—I hate to use that word awesome, but it's fantastic and very intriguing literature on where these spirits who quote unquote, possess people, come from.
Speaker 1:Well, I would say awesome, and more like the literal meaning of the word it is wild to read these things and see that the history of demonic possession in one.
Speaker 2:This is just one of many different interpretations of what a demon. They're calling it a demon is, um. One of my favorites that goes all the way back if you've ever read the uh, the epic of gilgamesh. Um, it is said to be, uh, the hero is said to be somebody who survived the flood that would have taken place in Noah's day. But what this? It doesn't have too much to do with that story, other than the, if you remember the Nephilim that were around at that time. They were half man, half demon. That was said because the watchers of men saw the daughters of men and decided that it would be good to mate with them. And these monsters came out and they were half human, half demon.
Speaker 1:Now do we think that was witches?
Speaker 2:Not necessarily what I think that was. Because they came out. They said they were giants and they had an insatiable appetite, to the point where they were clearing the earth of food and they started eating man.
Speaker 3:I think that's just then, then it was said.
Speaker 1:That's why the floods didn't really take them out.
Speaker 2:They're still around then it was said that that gun wiped out the earth and the nephilim uh, they, when they died, their spirits, unlike demons, who are not in this plane, they watch it but they're not here. The Nephilim are here. They are disembodied spirits that roam the earth. So if you think of ghosts, that's one tale that can answer that for you. There's many different versions of the same story in all different religions. Probably some of the more fascinating ones are of the Eastern. I wouldn't call them religion, but Eastern superstitions. The Japanese, the Chinese, they're not religious people. The atheism atheism is astounding in Japan, but yet they're very superstitious.
Speaker 1:See, I find it interesting that in there's certain things like let's take dragons, for instance where obviously dragons don't exist. Dragons never existed. We've never found any evidence of dragons existing, except for the fact that several civilizations across the globe, on many different continents, all depict something of a dragon. China does, uh, the incans did, um, pretty much everybody, the europe, everybody, has some depiction of a dragon. Where the fuck did that come from? And this was before. Everybody knew everybody. This was before satellites or global trade or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Or global talk in any way. This was before Europe even knew the Americas existed, and they were depicting dragons in both continents, so it just makes you wonder.
Speaker 2:Well, I see where you're going with that, because this is the same kind of a story, the story of demons, the story of angels. It's everywhere. Every religion, every culture has one.
Speaker 1:So it makes you. To me, that kind of bolsters, the argument that this is real If every culture with no communication amongst each other has some depiction of these beings. To me that feels like that must be real and to some degree the way I see it is, before everybody knew everybody.
Speaker 3:Nobody knew what other people were calling said thing. You know and think about all the different depictions of like dragons and shit. None of them are like exactly the same. They're all like slightly different.
Speaker 2:No, but it makes you wonder, right.
Speaker 3:It does kind of, you know, like they're all very similar, but they, they, they do have very distinct, like differences.
Speaker 1:So I'm thinking you know just like. But it's a, it's a flying reptile.
Speaker 3:You know, once we did all unify, we kind of just like collected all of it into the blanket term of like this is basically what it is same with like demons, like everybody, like. If there's gonna be some sort of like religion, you know you be bad. Bad thing, scary thing, what is it?
Speaker 2:if I'm. If I may, you know, I would. I would say one of the simplest ones. For me, this still falls under the Abrahamic accords. The Abrahamic religions is Islam. In Islam, one of their demons is a jinn. They call it a jinn, and that's what it's very commonly known as, and you read it though. You read what they say, and it's really just a demon. We call it something different. Now, everybody, unanimously I think it's unanimous in every religion across the globe the identity of the thing is paramount to overcoming it. You have to identify it in order to gain authority over it. You speak the name.
Speaker 2:Which goes to what the Bible says, that names have meaning name and which goes to what the bible says, that names have meaning, all religions, all religions. Names have meaning, and and names have words, have power.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you see that in the movie where, uh, at the end, when he speaks the demon's name, it kind of just locks her there.
Speaker 1:You know like what the well, because she realized oh shit, yeah, I'm cooked like that. The same thing happened in the second conjuring, where she says valak, and the demon was like fuck, you weren't supposed to know that.
Speaker 2:And that's their whole thing is staying hidden. That was what I was getting at. Cs Lewis, in Screwtape Letters, talks about that very thing staying hidden. The attitude amongst the senior demon to the lesser demon is you fool? We've never had it so good. Why are you trying to bring us out into the light?
Speaker 2:Then you have this book by Jonathan Cahn, who he says virtually the same thing in a different way Return of the Gods. He says that the demons no longer proclaim themselves to be gods because in this modern society it's pointless. Nobody wants to worship a god. There's no worship of God, so what they do instead is they call themselves god makers. I can make you a god and because we are very self-centered in this society and we want to see ourselves, we want to elevate ourselves and I want to be like the true God. And if I call myself, you know the demon speaking, if I call myself a God maker and I show you the ways of becoming top, top of your game. And just look at how true it is when you see the tick tock and Instagram and everybody getting celebrity status for very little really, and it's it's very interesting to see that I personally, I do believe I am a Christian and I do believe in the Christian faith, but I don't. I also don't believe that that's necessary to push on to anybody else.
Speaker 2:And in this movie I think you said it very well, both of you said it very well it's very sensationalized, it's very hollywoodized. It's fun. I I enjoy these movies. I've always been a horror freak. I enjoy it very much. Um, I thought it was well done. I thought it was. You know, there's some silly parts where she's like vomiting blood and stuff like that, but it was. They didn't overdo it, believe it or not.
Speaker 1:No, they didn't. It's very tasteful considering the future Conjuring movies. They get reckless.
Speaker 3:It's like this film was more built on like ambiance and maybe there's something there.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:I will admit there's a lot of mysterious air yeeting going on Like they just get yoinked you know, like pulled randomly that's a very you know Hollywood ass thing, like paranormal activity thing, but you know.
Speaker 2:I liked it. And I liked it even more because when I watched it originally I had no idea how they did it. I thought it looked great and then I saw how they did it behind the scenes. They show how they pulled the girl and did everything, and it was really quite clever how they did it. They used two different girls and the original girl gets pulled off screen. The cameraman runs into the room and it's the second girl being pulled diagonally across the room. That way it was. It was very clever, very cleverly done. It wasn't cgi, you know, it was a real person.
Speaker 1:No, it was james want james oh really paranormal activity. Guys, guys, a fucking legend man dude, I mean I was thinking about it with the, the cinematography.
Speaker 1:That what made me think about the director. It was the first, the first part of the movie where I thought like that's not true. Uh, but it was the first part of the movie where I thought like that's not true. But it was a part of the movie where I really paid attention to the camera angle and the idea, which was the top down camera where Lorraine goes to grab her bible from.
Speaker 1:When she runs out the house and it goes. It's upside down, and then it pans up and watches her leave out and then it does the same when she runs back and I remember, I remember thinking about that and I was like, oh, that that's a.
Speaker 1:I'm sure what that was was. Somebody was like, let's try this. And james was like that looks fucking cool, we're gonna do it when she walks out and he's like, fuck it, we're gonna do when she walks in too, like because it's a cool angle. And then I also thought about it when, uh, when it was showing that the camera man's point of view view, when Brad was holding the camera down in the basement.
Speaker 3:Very suffocating feeling.
Speaker 2:Because, you couldn't see shit. It's like an outlast.
Speaker 3:Other than what was lit up. And then also you couldn't hear anything other than what was in front of his microphone. So when he moved the microphone away and he's like hey, you good, you could barely hear him. So, you're just kind of deafened and, like you know, which adds to the time.
Speaker 1:That that really solidifies, like the time frame when this is supposed to take place. I enjoyed that that. They really they. This was made in 2013, but they they were accurate to the time period, at least as much as I know. I don't know they could have been inaccurate about some stuff.
Speaker 2:So there's a couple of things regarding, I would say, regarding psychological trauma, psychological survival In a situation like this. It can be brought on by many different things. If you're engaging in the recreational medicines, the kind that allow you to hallucinate, be wary. You can start tapping into that dimension. I do believe so. But even if it's not, even if it's uh I think the proper term is uh metaphysical, it's not, it's not supernatural, but you're seeing things. You're seeing things in the real world that exist in the real world, that are not, uh, what you think they are. They're not, they're not spirits, they're not, uh, a demon. It's not talking to you, but your brain, and what your brain witnesses is real to you. You know what, what is? It's like the matrix, right? What is real if your brain sees, it, smells, it, feels, it, tastes it it?
Speaker 1:it real. It's like telling a schizophrenic person it's not real, but they're like I'm seeing and hearing it's just in your head.
Speaker 2:Well, what, what, why is that any less real? Right, that was? Uh, wasn't that harry potter? Is this all in my? Head, of course it's in your head. Why does that mean it's not real? You know, it's so wild it's so.
Speaker 1:It's one of those existential things where, if you really think about it, you are quite literally a piece of muscle in a skull, in basically an armor.
Speaker 3:You're a piece of meat. You're a meat sat. You're a piece of meat controlling a meat mech suit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a meat mech suit there's a funny story On a rock that's floating through the cosmos. That's only alive because it's circling this burning star. There's a funny story about that, about, and you're barreling through space.
Speaker 2:They say aliens trying to describe humans, and they basically come out to, uh, sentient meat, thinking meat. That's pretty much what we are. That's exactly what we are a flesh mech. So it's interesting, you guys come up to the same same exact statement um. So of course we said already strengthen numbers.
Speaker 1:Um, if you can avoid provoking the thing, maybe avoid provoking it so here's my thing I, I, I do agree, but this is where I have, like that, I, I pray to god that I'm, if I ever am forced into a situation like this, that I am prepared for it or able to to handle it but this is one of those situations where multiple times over immediately.
Speaker 1:I don't think you multiple times throughout the movie I'm thinking like it's the initial fear and then the, the thought of like don't, don't fucking give into it, just fucking stand up to it, and I don't know how much of it is foolish and how much of it is is actually well, uh see, that's where.
Speaker 2:That's where it's important, okay. So apologies to anybody who practices a different faith. I'm not trying to push my religion or my faith onto you, but well, this movie regards this holism or christianity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's the Christian faith.
Speaker 2:And the necessity is understanding the Word of God and, as we know, the words, the promises of God, all of those promises are meant for these battles. So if a demon comes at you, number one, the first thing, what you're saying can be summed up in God will never give me more than I can handle without providing me a way of escape. He's given me tough shoes for the trip and he's provided me the strength for the day. If the demon is going to accuse, that's what they are. They're accusers of the brethren. That's what the devil is. He's an accuser. He's going to accuse you of all of your faults.
Speaker 2:You need to remember Zechariah, where he stood. The high priest stood in front Joshua. The high priest stood in front of God and the devil accused him saying look at his clothes, they're dirty. And God basically said shut up, strip him, put clean robes on him. Now he's clean. So that goes into the New Testament of Peter, when all the manner of creepy crawly things drop before him and Jesus said eat. And he said I've never let anything unclean touch my lips. He said don't call unclean that which the Lord has cleaned. So that all is a circular reference to say when you're being accused. The answer is don't call unclean that which the Lord has cleaned.
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Speaker 2:I don't think they provide that.
Speaker 1:That is a very Christian core belief. I thought it was.
Speaker 3:Catholic, it is Catholic. What flavor Jesus lever is this Christian core belief. I thought it was Catholic, it is Catholic. What flavor Jesus lever is this Catholic and Christianity.
Speaker 1:Really the difference is traditions or not.
Speaker 2:Catholics keep Jesus on the cross. They keep him in the manger and on the cross. Christianity or Protestantism does not. He is risen. There's a lot of different flavors.
Speaker 1:But that's kind of a core belief of Christianity, which is, I think, one of the hurdles you go through, which is and I think it's a constant hurdle that you go through where one of the devil's favorite tricks is to make you feel like, well, you couldn't possibly be forgiven for that. And even when you know that you are, he still throws it in your face constantly and it takes a lot to just just be like no it so, for example, this is becoming like a whole religious episode. But whatever.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm trying to break it up with random jamaican no, it's too bad.
Speaker 1:Learn. Learn some religion. I don't want to learn any religion.
Speaker 3:I have there was there was.
Speaker 2:You were baptized, shut up.
Speaker 1:There was a dark period for me where shut the fuck up or you're going to lose some points. Here I'm getting deep.
Speaker 3:I'm getting deep as crazy.
Speaker 1:There was a dark point in my life a couple years back where I would find myself on the patio smoking the devil's lettuce and I would find myself getting into these really low points where I would start like slouching and like sinking into my chair and I would just get real in my head over stupid shit. And it took me about like two months to realize what was happening and it, for me, what has helped is becoming ridiculously logical about it, um, which essentially happens. Where I I'm, I'll be sitting on the patio, I'll be smoking, I had a great day and all of a sudden I start getting real sad and all in my head and what for what has helped me recently has just becoming overly logical and thinking like what, what are you sad about? Name one thing you're sad about and I can't come up with an answer. I'm like then I'm being fucking stupid. It's such that's so dumb to be feeling that and for me. But I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 1:That over-logicalness just makes it all go away and it's like that's that's so. That's not even me, that that feels like some presence trying to put something upon me and that's not how I'm even feeling today.
Speaker 2:I had a great fucking day. Why am I? Why would I be all sad? I'm glad you brought that up, because what I will say is, when you're engaging in extracurricular behavior, be aware that's most likely the time that you can be affected. Now. It could also not be anything other than the physical effects of the substance Exactly See.
Speaker 1:The only reason I know it's not is all the other times that I haven't, haven't felt that Right, and so this was just weird period of my life where that started, that just started to happen a lot, and it just took me analyzing it to realize that I was under something, something was was constantly coming at me during those moments but I will say something they did not fall victim to in this movie virtually at all was being trapped on an island.
Speaker 2:There was no moments of like I'm isolated. They didn't fight each other as a family and argue over what was going on. The dad didn't do the the stereotypical thing and fight with his family because, oh, I just put up all of this money, we're gonna make this work. You know which? All of those things seem to make sense in the context of those other movies like Amityville, horror. Right, they bought that home, they're in it, you bought it.
Speaker 1:Well, that's kind of what he said. What do you do? He kind of said the same thing where Ed asked him why don't you sell the place? Or like, well, have you thought about just moving? And he's like all my money is tied up in this place.
Speaker 2:I bought it from the bank. We put renovations into it now.
Speaker 3:We can't leave. It is very horror movie, babe. I know we're getting haunted, but this house is so god damn cheap. Where are we going to find this again?
Speaker 1:this is another situation where I'm like a little communication amongst the family I think would have come to this conclusion a lot sooner, which the movie kind of expedites it. But there was a lot of moments where someone's like, oh, I don't know, I must have just seen that. Or oh, I'm something must have just I don't know grabbed my foot. I I don't know what it was, it must have been nothing. Those kinds of thought process absolutely kill me.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is like we watched a movie recently where a wife told a husband something and he didn't believe her. And I'm like, if my wife came to me and was like I'm being haunted, we're gone bye, I'm 100 believing you. Was it the haunting on hill house? What did? No, there was. We might not have even covered it on this, oh, but. But there was a movie where basically the wife was like something's happening and the husband was like, no, no, it's probably just this or that. No, if my wife is that certain that she's being haunted, I'm not gonna risk it I'll tell you that that's something that we talked about should talk to each other you know?
Speaker 2:no, exactly, they got the shit done.
Speaker 3:They talk to each other here they just don't, they just like oh, I seen something freaky let me not mention this for like half of the movie, and then all of a sudden, yeah, like the haunting of hill house well, I, I will tell you this.
Speaker 2:this is kind of funny. Corinne's gonna get this. Uh, she's going to hear this later. Is the other house, the house right, the house we stayed at? It was not until we moved out that she was like oh, there were times that freaky stuff happened there. I was like when? And she told me. I was like, oh, my God, I wish she would have fucking told me that. She was like well, I mean, it didn't bother me care do you remember what I told you about that house?
Speaker 1:not particularly when we were at jackson not particularly so it was after we'd viewed the house, yeah, where we went there and we walked around and this was the first time that I saw the house and I'm not gonna lie, I was a little salty because my room was a little bit like a dungeon it was no windows not even a solid door.
Speaker 1:There was solid doors, but it was like a. It was like a hallway with two solid doors on either side of that and then my door was like one of those slotted doors. So I wasn't particularly fond about that situation, but that, honestly, was not the problem for me. After we viewed that house that night, I had really bad nightmares. Oh wow, really really bad. I told you about this.
Speaker 1:I remember we walked out on the street at Jackson I think you were having a smoke and I told you. I was like I want to be honest, that place gave me a weird vibe. I didn't like it and it gave me nightmares that night that I don't. I don't have nightmares, so that it was very vivid for me. Nothing particularly odd happened at the house for me, there was no like haunting moments or anything like that, and I never felt particularly scared. But I do remember, after viewing that place, it gave me a bad vibe and you know what I think it is. It's exactly what grandma said we drove whatever that was out, because I don't think we really experienced anything while we were there. But was it you who, when we left, you said like this place?
Speaker 2:feels weird now, when we left, but I'll tell you the truth too, jackson, when it was empty and you and I went that very last time, I can't explain it, but I could not get out of there fast enough. I did not like the feeling of the empty apartment. It was like, yeah, there was a lot to do with it. I was a little like, it was a little nostalgic. My baby, baby girl, was born there. That was, that was the first place, that when we were all together for the first time, um, I was so there's like a lot of nostalgia that I thought, you know, and I'm I'm not, I'm not going to deny I'll run away from emotions just as fast as I would run away from scary shit. So it's, it's realistic, but I really did feel uncomfortable in that apartment when we walked out of it that very last time.
Speaker 2:Right, I was like that was the last load of stuff. Everything was in my car and we hauled it off to bonita. But I will say too, I felt the exact same thing. The very last load picking up it was, it was stuff that was in the uh, the guard, the shed. I went out, I picked up the stuff in the shed, I carried it up and then I went through the house and looked for anything that we had left behind and I did not like the feeling I had walking through that empty house and I thought maybe it's just because it's empty. But you know, once again, the conjuring right um one thing that the bible says is uh, when you empty the house, what was there before? Seven worst will come.
Speaker 3:So what I'm hearing is ghosts and demons. They really don't fuck with Mexicans. As soon as you moved in there everything was fine and then you moved out. They're like oh time to go back in. It's the food, it's the.
Speaker 2:Don't do it, don't do it, don't.
Speaker 1:I Don't do it Don't. I was going to say I don't know what they would be scared of. It's not like we're going to fucking rob them or anything.
Speaker 3:America's about to be real haunted soon. If anything, we're just going to give them bad drugs or something.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 3:God, that was nuts.
Speaker 2:You just went crazy.
Speaker 3:Haunted in his bed bed. No, that was insane. Give me a weird vibe too, like it's like a heaviness of like, like the silence is heavy and it feels like, but you just, I like, but you have to admit you know your empty place.
Speaker 2:If you're moving out after you've lived there, it's different. No, is that just me?
Speaker 3:like I, I get it different. Well, I think you're right about walking into an empty home.
Speaker 2:You're walking into an empty house, touring it right, and it's like, oh, there's no life in here, is whatever.
Speaker 1:But when you're leaving your house for the last time, it's like there's something different so I don't know, maybe, maybe I'll feel different about this place, because I think this is the first place that I've.
Speaker 3:I don't know, first place you've had a window well I mean, yeah, um, shouldn't have gave them that, but less less so that more so.
Speaker 1:Like this is the first place where I feel like I'm a sentient adult, like I've been a sentient human, but I this is the first place where I now feel like I, I have a projection for my life and I, I feel like a competent adult, I have a steady job, stuff like that that makes you feel like you have some worth. Um, so I think maybe it'll feel different with this place, but I don't have that that feeling where, like I love touring empty homes, like I would I would if I had a free, if I was just off one day for work for no reason I would highly consider just going around to open houses and just looking at the places because I think it's cool, um, to kind of like imagine what could be in this place. But the leaving thing I also don't really get like, like, I said maybe it'd be different for this place.
Speaker 3:But so this goes back to, like, my thoughts on, like, what ghosts are, you know, pieces break off, you end up haunting yourself. So what if, when you're like, when you find a place you want to call home, right, you know it's yours, it's your area, you know what, you know what if your inner self, soul, whatever you want to fucking call it, kind of like emanates like you know, around that pushes everything out and that's why I think that's you've had such a weird feeling leaving because all of that energy is gone.
Speaker 1:I think that's kind of what we were saying where when we lived there, it didn't seem like anything was happening.
Speaker 1:But the second we left, which is something that I had experience with the difference between my grandparents' house and going back to my mom's house when I would be going back and forth as a kid, I would always say I just said it was love. At my grandparents' house there was this constant love and accepting in the air and it was not the same when I would go back to Texas and for a while it made me think that I hated Texas and then I realized I actually love Texas. It wasn't, it wasn't Texas, texas had nothing to do with it, but the it was the house. It was Texas, it was the house. But it wasn't necessarily that. It wasn't necessarily the house, it was Texas, it was the. It was what was inside the house that that made the difference. It was what was inside the house that made the difference.
Speaker 1:My grandparents' house was always very warm and lively. It always had pastor on the TV Stuff like that. I would rarely ever feel scared in that house. The only time I'd ever feel scared was the downstairs bathroom, which used to have big daddy long legs and that was too much for me. But other that, so I don't know.
Speaker 2:I do think the people who occupy the house make a difference in what the house feels like, and I will tell you I'm glad that you never had a bad experience in that house, that that tells me a lot, because I know you guys, as kids, have some crazy stories about that house fuck, that house was terrifying.
Speaker 2:It was all kinds of shit and and then, moving around, uh, I went and stayed with my aunt and one of the craziest things was you, I don't know you. You remember the movie beetlejuice, right, yeah, when it came out they had these dolls, these beetlejuice dolls. It was a pull string and when you would pull the string the head would spin and he would say sandworms at the end of it. And we had this fucking doll in a toy chest. My cousin, this was my cousin's doll and this motherfucker would go off in the chest all by himself, that's so creepy it was so fucking scary.
Speaker 2:And so my aunt ended up, uh, helping us out because we were fucking running out of his bedroom and sleeping in her bed. So she got rid of the doll, she gave it to my cousin much older cousin, right, he was a grown-ass adult by the time. Well, we were little kids and, uh, she gave it to him. He was like, oh yeah, I love this thing, this thing's cool. And he got rid of it. I was like oh yeah, I love this thing, this thing's cool. And he got rid of it. I was like.
Speaker 1:So there was something fucking wrong with that fucker.
Speaker 2:I couldn't tell you if I was dreaming or awake, but I swear I saw that little fucker walking around on his own and it was scary man.
Speaker 1:I think we're kind of over time. So for TJ's sake, what I think I want to leave this episode off on was there was a story that I read about a guy and he said his roommate she was reading the Exorcist, oh yeah, and she said she couldn't finish it. She got about halfway through. It was too much for her and she quite literally threw it in the river when she was walking by because she was like this book is too evil, I can't finish it. And so he had a diabolical idea and he went and bought a copy of the Exorcist what a dick, ran it under the kitchen sink for a few seconds.
Speaker 2:What a dick.
Speaker 1:And then put it on her nightstand for her to find when she woke up.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:That's mean he said the scream that's diabolical, but oh my God, that's funny.
Speaker 3:I would have kept it going. I would, she like burns it, wow, throws in the trash you freaking. Have another copy. Yeah, but that's what that's what look.
Speaker 2:That's when you end up getting burned down with the house because she just loses her mind and goes fucking crazy. No see what you so the prank isn't worth it.
Speaker 3:That's how you get a woman right.
Speaker 2:So before you even move in with it you gotta convince her that her place is fucking haunted. No see what you said. The prank isn't worth it.
Speaker 3:That's how you get a woman right. So before you even move in with her, you got to convince her that her place is fucking haunted as shit right, just so you know, so she has to move in with you, you know if you sense she's having doubts. You know if you're not already about to move in, you know.
Speaker 1:Baby, this isn't my fault, this is your fault.
Speaker 3:You got to convince her that she's haunted right and then, as soon as you show up haunting, stop. And if y'all ever take a little break or whatever, break up whatever, haunting back on. Anytime you get into a fight, you're like I'll just leave you here with your demons and boom, she'll associate safety with you Instant win. Instant win.
Speaker 1:I'm learning so much about dog training. That sounds exactly like that. Oh my God, eric.
Speaker 3:I didn't send it to you, but it was this video of this girl and she's like I'm never going out with a dog trainer again, and then he's like go on, sit, and then she sits down at the table Good girl.
Speaker 2:And she's like nope, nope, not happening yeah.
Speaker 3:He had the clicker and everything I think I think my cousin said that to me and she was like is this you? Oh, my god, that's so funny. I was gonna send it to you that's hilarious it was really good, dude.
Speaker 1:The guy looked like, uh, like, uh, michael reeves. Yeah, who's that? Uh, he's a youtuber, but it was like it was the same like personality and everything too. That's funny.
Speaker 2:It was very, very good so as uh, everybody can tell that it's not scary watching, uh, we're going over these movies with us. Any scary movie that you're not comfortable with, just come hang out with us while we talk about it boo that's about as bad as it gets, I made one person crash their car. But I do have some recommendations of literature if you guys like to read and you want to be scared.
Speaker 3:The Bible no.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's some scary shit in the Bible.
Speaker 2:There is some fucking horrifying shit. There's some terrifying shit in there you ever seen a real angel-like depiction Like they drew it out. Be not afraid. What the fuck do you mean? Be not afraid why?
Speaker 1:do you think that's the first thing he said they already know.
Speaker 2:Hey, don't be scared. No, why do you have three?
Speaker 3:different faces, one of them being a lion.
Speaker 2:He fell down on his face as if dead. Don't be afraid.
Speaker 3:Why do you have 75 wings?
Speaker 1:What the angels should have done was been like don't turn around, don't turn around, don't turn Wait wait, this is going to be a lot.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm going to make it bad right now. You feel like don't turn around, don't look at me, don't make it ugly. Yeah, you just hear metal rings shifting together and little from the eyeballs. Dude you that, that's from ezekiel. That's the scariest one, I think. Be not afraid, so uh. Well, what do we have? What do we have here? Uh?
Speaker 1:well do. Do you think you could handle this situation?
Speaker 3:no, I don't know, I would leave my wife. So he's, he's the negative absolutely yes, I would survive soon, I would survive because I would be on a flight to honolulu, hawaii. I would, yeah, no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna straight up like lilo and stitch this shit. I'm gonna go make a friend with a fish feed him a sandwich every day.
Speaker 1:Gonna be on a flight, simple, he's gonna go down oh damn, 307 am.
Speaker 2:He's gonna wonder why he has nobody else on the flight. And they're like sir, uh, there's nobody else on this flight. Would you like us to upgrade you to first class? He's like oh, look at this treatment boom down in the ocean.
Speaker 1:You know what actually happened. It would look like a full flight, and then he'd wake up from a nap at 3.07, and it'd be completely empty Nobody in it.
Speaker 3:You know what would be crazy Is if Blackpool actually got possessed, never seen it.
Speaker 2:The blackening bro.
Speaker 1:They always die before the blackening bro.
Speaker 2:The blackening was fake. Got possessed.
Speaker 1:There was no possession in the blackening no oh.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Wait a minute, that's just true. Wait a minute.
Speaker 3:All the ghosts scatter because they're afraid of your people. I'm trying to remember. You know what I'm going to have? To go back and watch.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to go. Okay, josh, that's funny, it's actually the African-American.
Speaker 1:Damn, he got my own joke against me. Oh shit, that's a good one. That was good that was the african-americaning to you.
Speaker 2:That's a good one, josh so wait, we have to be in contrast. So right, one of us has to be in the negative yeah, so he doesn't think he would survive.
Speaker 1:You think you would absolutely survive? Yeah, um, I kind of agree actually no, you what?
Speaker 2:I'd be the one who would die. Why how?
Speaker 1:would you die Because?
Speaker 2:I would stand toe to toe.
Speaker 1:See, okay, so that's the thing where, like, part of me is like I've never been in this situation, so I can't really know. So part of me is like I think my initial reaction would be complete fear and being terrified. But I think I'm so stubborn of a person that I think I would, after the initial fear, be like no, how dare you make me feel that way? And like get all puffed up and like square up, but I don't know how wise it is to square up to a demon.
Speaker 2:The one thing that I know. I know the toughest challenge of my life that required the most faith is my favorite point in my life, and I know why because that was the moment that I was walking with God, but the toughest period of my life. I remember, turning to my friend, he asked me how are you doing? I said do you know what it's like when you ever see a kid at a restaurant and his parents are trying to take that little tiny plate with like a couple of appetizers away and they want to give him his meal and he's like screaming and crying about it. It's like, dude, you're going to get something so much better right now. He's like, oh yeah. I said, look, I know, I know for a fact. I'm going to come out of this on top. I'm saying this for the record. Everybody sees, everybody's going to know in the end days when we're standing before the throne, everyone's going to see this. So I'm just admitting it now Doesn't mean I'm not going to cry like a little bitch the entire way through.
Speaker 2:And that's my honest opinion of something like this. I may be standing there afraid All of the feelings that you should feel in those instances, but I really do think that I would stand square toe to toe. My big difference is I do not hunt these things out. I like this movie because they weren't hunting the shit out. I'm never going to be an Ed Warren.
Speaker 3:I'm not someone who was looking for this kind of shit, like in real life. They would go hunting for it, they would drive around and wait till she got a feeling about any particular area right then he would draw a picture of the house, you know. So that'd give him a reason to like go up to the house, knock on the door. Hey, I drew a picture of your house, do you like it? Oh, we can come in crazy. And then they would like throw crazy.
Speaker 2:That's like that's what they used to do what they said.
Speaker 1:It's like dog crazy. No one's ever done that before.
Speaker 3:And then he's just collecting fucking mythical artifacts of fucking ghosts past like stop doggy I hate that shit I understand all in your house too. I I understand his logic storage unit I understand his logic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get it. I get. I think that's even better. I don't think storage units were that common back then, but I still get your logic, I get your point in the backyard or something do something your daughter almost got a chair yeeted through her forehead I, I mean right, put major locks on every door when, when him and that when him and that reporter were in that basement, in that room, there should be deadbolts on that door that they put on there so nobody else can walk in accidentally.
Speaker 1:Well, there was like two. There was like two deadbolts and a lock on the knob. There wasn't an assault line.
Speaker 3:There wasn't a freaking cross next to the door.
Speaker 2:All of that shit.
Speaker 3:There was nothing.
Speaker 2:Nothing.
Speaker 3:They weren't even trying. Oh yeah, this will keep the demons in A human-made lock. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And once a month a priest comes and blesses the room Like it isn't common knowledge?
Speaker 3:Ghosts can walk through walls. You think that a lock, a master lock from fucking Home Depot? You think that's going to?
Speaker 1:keep them in there. That lock from fucking home depot. You think that's gonna keep them in there? That's what cracks me up, that that's like a common ghost thing is that they're opening doors like why?
Speaker 2:why don't have to? Why?
Speaker 1:would they which? But I guess maybe that might go to tj's point where it's more like a, a fractured piece of your soul it's more for you where it's like the, the ghost is opening a door because but it's always done when it gets there well
Speaker 3:that's a good point that's a good my theory on how ghosts walk through walls is that they're not like intentionally walking through the walls. They're on another plane, everything's like different? Yeah, they're opening doors in their reality that they're in in their reality, yeah, like in ours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's where, it's where it blends together when she's like yeah, that's so. So check this out. What if you guys have ever studied the different dimensions? Uh, we're in the third dimension, right length, width height.
Speaker 3:Uh, length, width height you're especially in the width dimension, wow actually I think that's you brother. Nah bro, I got the length.
Speaker 2:Well then you got length and width. Six foot three baby Fish you wide on all sides.
Speaker 3:My guy size 14 feet.
Speaker 1:I'm very tall horizontally.
Speaker 3:If I lay on my side I can get on the roller coaster.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was good. That was good right there. I enjoyed that one. But if you guys study the dimensions, you go into the fourth dimension. You could see through walls.
Speaker 1:You can see through the roof looking down.
Speaker 2:You're bound by time.
Speaker 3:You're outside of time, I imagine it's. It's like that one episode of spongebob where squidward gets transported to the future and then he ends up breaking it and then he's just in the white space and he's like I'm all okay oh, I remember I am very interested I don't understand your dialect.
Speaker 1:There's a spongebob reference. There's a spongebob for every.
Speaker 3:I am very interested in certain SpongeBob. There's a.
Speaker 2:SpongeBob reference for fucking everything, there's a SpongeBob for everything. Absolutely. It's wild. It's what I grew up on.
Speaker 3:It's my favorite cartoon I've ever watched in my life. Not the new shit, though. If you watch a new SpongeBob and you're like this is genuinely great, lock yourself up Padded room.
Speaker 1:Go to the house that this movie was based on, the other thing that Eric shows me is Rick and Morty.
Speaker 3:Rick and Morty is top tier.
Speaker 2:They have fucking episodes of almost everything, Every topic, and actually I think when are my balls? Summer Rick and Morty is very alternate dimension, alternate universes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, have you seen Interdimensional Cable?
Speaker 2:No, oh my.
Speaker 1:God.
Speaker 3:I've done it. I've done one of the bits from it. Hi, my name is Ants in my eyes. Johnson, I have ants in my eyes. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's from Interdimensional Cable. We've got good prices.
Speaker 3:Well I can't see.
Speaker 2:I hope they're good. And there's like people stealing from the store he's like I can't see.
Speaker 3:Also, I can't feel, and he lights on fire because he touched a stove.
Speaker 1:We made a joke or something Like we did a bit and we were like that's something that would 100% be on an interdimensional cable. I can't remember what it was, but anyways, yeah, Rick and Morty Funny, got a bunch of random shit.
Speaker 3:Oh, they had a. I mean there's so much in I like shows like that. There's a lot of good shit they do shit that everybody thinks of, like random shit, like what would happen if you dropped a fucking lightsaber directly, like straight.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, vertical.
Speaker 3:Perfectly vertical. Would it just keep going to the center there?
Speaker 2:I haven't. I haven't seen that, but that is something that I have always thought about.
Speaker 1:That's also some shit that like family guy would explore. It would and it would just be a cutaway where peter randomly drops a lightsaber through and it goes through and slices some chinese dude in half, I've definitely 100 like a family guy episode. Yeah, no, love it, love it. So, um, yeah, I mean, we've talked for a while, uh, some about this movie and some not about this movie, uh, but I think we came to the gifts.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Cerulea. Hello, to you too. I think we have come to, well, I've come to a decision. I think if I was forced into this situation, I do believe the this isn't exactly in the Bible, but it's more of a principle of tough shoes for a tough trip, where God told who did he tell that to? Basically, he gave them shoes of brass right, that was the song of Asher Brass shoes, and basically the meaning was that you're going to need something more than just some regular shoes for this trip, and God provided that. So he provides you the armor he provides you.
Speaker 3:He'll never give you something you can't handle, like any foam, posits or nothing. No, yeezys.
Speaker 1:Nope, nope, straight on the brass.
Speaker 3:They're like yeah, I know you're used to walking on these sandals, but you're going to need more.
Speaker 2:Armor.
Speaker 1:Take these Yeezy boosts Armor.
Speaker 3:Take the best shoe wear that could ever be made Crocs.
Speaker 1:Thank you, take these Shrek Crocs, crocs. Thank you, my lord. What are these? I call them Crocs. Thank you, take these Shrek Crocs, crocs. Thank you, my lord. What are these I call?
Speaker 3:them Crocs Christ, put them in sport mode.
Speaker 1:When you're running from the Egyptians, thou must put them in sports mode.
Speaker 3:They've got the little gibbets on them like fucking the little crosses, A bitten apple from fucking like Eve and shit wow fuck, it's like the egyptian hieroglyphs the stone tablets you know for, for the, you know there's 10 of them, you know you know, you know now I did, you know, moses moses had his crocs in sports mode. When he uh walked into the river turned into blood. Did I send?
Speaker 2:you guys that joke. There was a podcast. I don't know what podcast it was comedy three guys. Three guys, one, one woman and, uh, it said, I finally figured out how it happened. In the, the garden of eden, they were all sitting around it. Adam says look at this, we have everything we want, everything we'd need. If we need something else, it appears for us anything that you want, if you dream of it, it appears. How is that? And the woman says, yeah, not enough, is it?
Speaker 1:and the woman on the panel is sitting there. The men start. All the men are cracking up. They're just like not funny.
Speaker 2:She goes.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting for more that was kind of the kind of the point.
Speaker 3:I just, I just had a thought that was a good one.
Speaker 2:I liked that one.
Speaker 3:You had a thought stop everything, I'm cursed. Tj thought With a dumbass brain. So I was thinking like what would be some funny shoes? And you know this is probably blasphemy. But you know Jesus Christ on the cross, except it's a Nike logo. Like his arms are stretched out over the Nike logo, call him Christies.
Speaker 1:Christies.
Speaker 3:Christies call them christies, christies, christies. Ladies and gentlemen, a lightning bolt has just struck tj, but I have the, I have the power of photoshop. I'm not gonna do it, but I have it just think about it we can be billionaires.
Speaker 1:Shall we wrap this up? Yes, it has been quite the episode. Thank you for joining us. Would you like some socials? I would like some socials. Hit them with the socials.
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Speaker 1:all right, it has been us. The boy oh wait, I gotta. Oh, that's T-H-E-B-O-Y-S at willyousurvivethepodcastcom. All right, it has been us. Oh wait, I got to. Oh shit, points. I've been keeping a really, really close tracker.
Speaker 2:Alex wins, okay, although I sent you guys the movie that I wanted to do next A lot more funny shit in the conversation, but you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm not always looking for funny. Look, I'm a silly dude, I got my silly goose sweater on. But it's not always about all the sillies. Sometimes it's about the series and that's short for serious.
Speaker 3:Well, bring me out. I don't believe In Jesus.
Speaker 1:See, that's why you lost. See, if you had a exactly wow y'all having your little fucking.
Speaker 3:Jesus conversation, this whole goddamn episode. I'm just trying to make people laugh. You could have. You could have asked questions. You know what this episode is gonna be you could have engaged with the episode, but instead you decided that you wanted to do what you wanted to do what you wanted to do. It's going to be called the Conjuring. Oh sure, we used to write the Conjuring except it's just them talking about Jesus for 20 fucking hours.
Speaker 1:You could have asked questions, you could have engaged with a conversation. I was engaging, you could have brought up things about the movie, but instead you just wanted to go for the Jamaican patois, which I admired, and it was a move. But I go for the jamaican patois, which I admired and it was a move, but I'm just saying it was good the first two times, judging by the standards that I set, which was just having a conversation.
Speaker 1:You even threw the bomba clot alex and I uh had more to discuss um, and that's just how the cookie crumbles. My bad dude, go to church sometime, that's. That's not always how the cookie crumbles, I think. Well, it's how it crumbled today, I think. So get the fuck over it.
Speaker 3:You know what. You know what what.
Speaker 1:Fuck you. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. That's what I thought.
Speaker 3:Thank you all for listening to the Way you Survive podcast. My name is TJ. That's bitch, that's bitch and thank you for listening. Till next time.
Speaker 1:Stay alive this guy's not even a host. He can't even I know but it's in the constitution.
Speaker 3:I am all powerful.
Speaker 1:No it is not actually. That's not in the constitution.
Speaker 2:As the person who has the constitution? That's not in the constitution.
Speaker 1:No anyways, thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you for listening. Uh, very much appreciate it. Next time Alex will be hosting because he won and until then Extra biased Stay alive, Thank you.
