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Will You Survive "The Haunting of Hill House" Pt 2: Mold, Ghosts, and Family Intrigue
with our special guest Maddy Join us on "Will You Survive" as we tackle the complexities of "The Haunting of Hill House" with humor and intrigue. We take you on a journey through the Crain family's emotional labyrinth in the last episodes of the series. From the breathtaking cinematography of "Two Storms" to the poignant grief echoing through the siblings' lives, we paint a vivid picture of their struggles and triumphs. Our exploration doesn't shy away from dissecting the characters' intense dynamics, especially through the lens of Theo and Shirley's shocking interactions and the haunting symbolism of the Red Room.
Prepare to be captivated by our analysis of family ties and supernatural mysteries. We dive into the nuances of Nell's selfless character, the enigmatic spirits like Abigail, and the chilling miscommunications within the Crain family. As we highlight pivotal moments, like Luke's haunting tribute to Nell and the jump scare that unites the siblings against Hill House's malevolence, we invite you to ponder the thin line between reality and the supernatural. We also humorously question whether drastic measures could rid the house of its ominous presence or if it's all merely a figment of our haunted imaginations.
As we wind down the episode with a late-night chat, the mood lightens with laughter and tequila-infused banter. My co-hosts, Eric and Alex, and I share survival tips for staying safe and healthy, with a cheeky reminder to drink responsibly and avoid mold-infested environments. We wrap up with a touch of humor, sharing my Venmo handle for any generous souls, and leave you with a heartfelt sign-off to "stay alive." This episode promises a rollercoaster of emotions, intriguing theories, and a sprinkle of humor you won't want to miss.
Hello survivors and welcome back to another episode of Will you Survive.
Speaker 2:The Podcast.
Speaker 1:And today we got something very, very special. Not really. We already had a part one of this. You know what it is. It's Haunting a Hill House, part 2. It's Haunting a Hill House, part 2. If you guys have seen Part 1, you know that we did five episodes of the series in Part 1. So we're going to do the other five and it gets real spicy, kind of freaking crazy. Some beautiful, beautiful shots in Episode what? 7?, 6? The one where they did the whole one shot thing. That was great, but uh, yeah, uh, alex would you like to give the uh, the whole, what's it about?
Speaker 2:well for the uh, these episodes. We're talking about episodes six, seven, eight, nine and ten. We are talking about two storms eulogy, witness marks, screaming memes and silence lay steadily. Those are all of the episodes that we're. Storms, eulogy, witness Marks, screaming Mimis and Silence Lay Steadily. Those are all of the episodes that we're going to be covering. The storyline, if you're not familiar with the Haunting of Hill House, is as follows this explores a group of siblings who, as children, grew up in what would go on to become the most famous haunted house in the country.
Speaker 4:Now adults and forced back together in the face of tragedy, the family must finally confront the ghosts of their past, some of which still lurk in their minds, while others might actually be stalking the shadows of hill house so there's a lot of haunting out of time, like out of our normal timeline, and you see that, with Nellie haunting herself for her whole childhood, but then also this jumps to the very end, but we find out that Abigail died, abigail being the Dudley's.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:The Dudley's daughter abigail being the dudley's? Yes, the dudley's daughter abigail abigail died um when, on the same night that the mom died and but prior to that moment, luke had been saying that he was seeing abigail right and everybody thought he was that it was just an imaginary friend. So he was seeing her as a ghost before she even died. Yep, so there's a lot of wonky time stuff that happens in these last five episodes that I think is very interesting.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure he was just seeing her. I think they were keeping her secret because she's not allowed to be there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she kept sneaking out into the woods and then she would go play with him.
Speaker 4:No, but he would say Abigail's right here, and they would be like no, she's not, like oh, oh yeah. They would play along like oh yeah, okay, abigail, but they he would be saying like she's right in front of me, she's right here hmm, that is interesting.
Speaker 2:What do you think, madison am?
Speaker 4:I am I crazy or like?
Speaker 3:uh, because I just re-watched all five episodes, like fully through, and I'm pretty sure that he doesn't say she's right there, he, he just has to. He's trying to convince them that she's not imaginary and that she does exist in the woods and that he she comes to play with him every now and then when he's out there eric minus one point for being wrong, because I'm taking my wife's side even though I don't know if it's right or not.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 2:This is how it's plus one for the rich dad left.
Speaker 4:I wish we were rich.
Speaker 1:What that's what it sounded like.
Speaker 3:It sounded like, you know, hit a hole like there was dollar signs between each huh yeah little golf clap is episode six two storms yes, I believe so um, first off, sad as shit. That was the saddest. I think between six and seven are the saddest fucking like episodes. There's just so much packed into both of them and it covers so much about their grieving and so much about such deep topics that it's my favorite episodes Because it's just so emotional and they do it so well.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the Nell. What was it? The Memorial or the Wake? Yeah, that's episode 7. Yeah, she was there. No, no, when they were in the building. When they were in the building, that was episode six, right, yeah?
Speaker 3:yes, when they were yeah, that, wow, that's intense. Luke's luke's like memoir to her made me cry. He's like Nell was always like. I was born 90 seconds before Nell but she was always my big sister and that shit.
Speaker 4:When I first heard that shit, I was crying what hit me the most in that episode is where little Nell was saying that this might be episode 7, but where little Nell was saying, like I was standing right here and I was yelling to you guys, but you guys couldn't hear me. Why? Why couldn't you guys see? Me, and then you see her and you just yeah, and then you see her dead standing by her coffin and nobody was able to see her in that moment.
Speaker 1:And then the child version of her is like I was here the whole time you didn't see me and she's freaking dead next to the.
Speaker 4:You know, yeah there's they do so well, jumping between all these timelines and being very deliberate with what information they're telling you. And it's really cool when they go back to a scene that you've already seen before, but you see it from a different perspective now, right, and you see different parts of the scene playing out. It is very I? I. Cinematography is incredible.
Speaker 2:It's amazing one of the things that I mentioned I thought of watching two storms was I loved how the whole entire series, but mainly in this episode, they were focusing around the chaos of the storms, uh, how they did everything in parallel you notice that and they bring it full circle with nell haunting herself and that was like such a creepy thing to me. But one of the things that steven actually said in episode one is in many cases the ghosts are our wishes right and it's almost like I mean I know this is going to sound weird to say it this way, but it's almost like he's 100 accurate in nell's uh, nell's case, because she was trying to break through that space and time to talk to herself, to get to herself, and it was absolute terror. Of course, both sides. She's seeing herself as a young child. She's outside of space and time and rightfully so, scaring the crap out of herself as a young kid, seeing her as the bent-neck lady. But what tragedy to find out that you are haunting yourself at the end of your life.
Speaker 2:You know, and that was kind of the, the parallel through the two storms. It was the early part of their, their life, the late part of their life. It was a storm dictating both situations, um, and not only was it a storm literally, but it was a storm figuratively. It was all inside of them. Everything was chaotic.
Speaker 2:The wife was going through her shall we say sensitivities, the husband was just trying to keep this house together.
Speaker 2:They wanted to build it up and flip it as fast as possible, and then, in the later part of their life, it's everybody trying to keep it together for Nell, for her funeral, and it was I'm paralleling on purpose what Maddie just said because the emotions were so, they were so rich and so raw because of how well they portrayed all of these things, all of these parallels, side by side, the young and the old. And you know, the sad part was is I got absolutely no relief from the flashbacks because you're you're so embroiled in their life, you're so embroiled in their story and it's just as tragic in the past as it is in the future, namely that scene you're talking about. They go running around looking for Nell and you know where is she. Where is she? You know what? What were you doing? Why didn't you tell us I was right here? And how horrifying and terribly sad that moment was, and I thought they did a great job of doing all of that and they carried it all the way through the rest of these, these episodes.
Speaker 3:I think exactly like that's. Like the emotion was just so raw and so amazing how they did it. Um, and just to kind of touch a little bit more on the mom, we experienced a lot more of mom in this episode. We experienced mom going missing as well in the same kind of scenario, and she was found talking to the twins in bed. But surprise, there's no twins in bed. The twins are with the family trying to figure out what the hell is the storm doing, and then it wasn't even dark exactly.
Speaker 3:And then all of a sudden, um, the dad just sees her get blasted by the fucking glass and she's gone again and she's just like the mom's sensitivity is really shown, and then I think they're making a really good connection between her and Nell being the most sensitive in the family.
Speaker 4:I could see that. Yeah, I think she was just being, she was being taken. There was an order to this. It started with the mom and then it started going from the youngest kid um, almost as if, like it almost, skipped over the dad. Like he, the way I saw it, is he in a sense figured out how to maybe not control.
Speaker 2:It isn't the right way to word it can I give you my opinion on this as a dad? They could never take the dad, but you take his family and he is extremely vulnerable.
Speaker 1:It's a very sad case. Still talking to his dead wife, seeing her at the funeral.
Speaker 2:I am going to jump to the end here and say the part that really wrecked me was when he was talking to her in the house and he was like you were there with me and she goes no, that was you, I wasn't there, I was here the whole time so that's what I was gonna ask you guys.
Speaker 4:Did you guys think that's really the case? Because there was a moment there where I started to think, like is she just with the house now like it? Because at first she there was that, um, that flapper chick, uh oh yeah, oh yeah oh, poppy, who was who was trying to trying to mess with him.
Speaker 4:And then live shows up and is like back, the fuck off my man. And so she's like hey, sorry, darling. And she walks away. And then, when live started talking to him, all of a sudden I'm like now it kind of sounds like it's poppy again, like she just started saying weird shit and I was like I don't know. I he seemed to understand the situation, uh, better than than I was grasping it in the moment.
Speaker 3:But, um, just to finish up, kind of like some episode six stuff, uh, cheating, cheating is the cheating part like um oh my god where theo got found with her cheryl's husband in the closet um, yeah I and then they, we. We later find out what happened and he didn't do anything. But cheryl was so gung-ho, it kind of like immediately it raises red flags on her part like she was projecting.
Speaker 2:So me too she was such a bitch me too, and when they confirmed my suspicions, all was I mean, it made me so mad about everything because she was so freaking self-righteous about everything surely, yeah, can we?
Speaker 4:can we mention that? Surely sucks, dude? Surely sucked in every fucking way, especially when she's like fucking trying to tell people how they should be grieving, right? That pissed me off so much, dude.
Speaker 2:Theo's the best character you know, I thought no was my favorite. You know, I really hated Theo at first because it was, I feel, like these people. It's just like in real life. You know people who have this shield or this wall up and they put forth a I'm going to say this tough persona. Right, it bothers me. But then, just like in real life, when you get to know somebody as a person, when they they're not just that shield of a persona that they put forward but they're a real human being, then it becomes hard to dislike them. And that was what I got with Theo. I didn't like her, I didn't like her, I didn't like her. But then, as soon as I started understanding, like when she took those gloves off and she was touching people and the the amount of pain that that would cause her, and then I really I kind of realized something.
Speaker 2:And I will say this this is a little risque, I'll try to keep it PG, but one of the things I can understand is I don't like touching. I don't like touching. I don't like people touching me, I. It's different. If I touch someone else, um, I don't, I don't hate that so much, but if someone touches me, um I I kind of have a little a little thing against that. And one of the odd things for me is the only kind of physical touch that is acceptable is sexual. And I don't, you know, except for my kids, but I don't, I don't really like any kind of physical contact, not for that specific reason.
Speaker 1:but I'll tell you my thing when you're with your kids, you're just like ugh, don't fucking touch me.
Speaker 4:I'm actually okay with anybody else touching me, just not my kids your kids being born.
Speaker 1:They're like do you want skin to skin contact? You're like ugh, get that thing away what it?
Speaker 4:does? I'll come back when it's 18 and it has a job like I'm gonna give the you put on gloves first, though.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna give the appreciate it big dog. I'm gonna give the simple explanation. If somebody comes by and touches me, they put their hand on my back. I have this very strange sensation. I feel their hand on my back for hours. It doesn't go away and it's it's annoying, like if if you've ever, if you've ever had the feeling like somebody's constantly touching you and you're like dude, come on. And I'm sure you've ever felt that at least one point in your life where you're like fuck, just give me some space, and that's what it?
Speaker 2:feels like all the time if somebody touches me. So I really got it. And then I would say, long story short. I hated Theo because she reminded me of me.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Diagnosing, alex.
Speaker 4:I think there's a moment where Theo becomes I guess I think you discover this beforehand, but it completely solidifies it where they're at Nellie's wake and she stumbles a bit and she falls and they all go to grab her. And she stumbles a bit and she falls and they all go to grab her and she tells them don't fucking touch me. And she says I have enough of my own grief, I don't need your guys's Right, cause she can, and there's emotions, yeah. So like everybody touching her and they're also grieving is just like it's just a overload of emotions and I think that's that's a moment that like really solidifies her as a character. That because there's like shirley who thinks that she's bullshitting but knows in her, in her head, that which no, you're so right.
Speaker 2:You're so right because that moment was I felt sympathy for her, I felt bad for her, and everybody else, like theo, was the only one who really had come to grips and was using what she had when she went and rescued that little girl. Right, she knew, for whatever reason, she knew she wasn't being haunted by a ghost, right I I? That's not what the case is. And she knew she could figure something out, and she did. She figured out that the little girl was making up something in order to tell a different story.
Speaker 4:Right, it was she it was what they all did as kids, exactly.
Speaker 2:Maybe it was exactly what they did for the little girl to say that it was this smiley monster, rather than what it actually was. And but theo figured that out, and but it's ironic that all of those kids, all of the crane kids, actually went through the kind of things that that little girl was telling so that little girl was like you said she, she made a monster.
Speaker 4:She put a face on what was happening to her, which is on what was happening to her, which is kind of loosely but foreshadowing to the red room in the way that they described that it was a room of many faces and it would put on a disguise to they refer to it as digesting them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which I was a little disappointed that they said it was like the house's heart. I wish they would have said stomach.
Speaker 4:No, she corrected herself. Nellie said it's the heart. She was like the house's heart. I wish they would have said stomach. No, they, she corrected herself. Nelly said it's the heart she was like actually it's more like a stomach.
Speaker 2:Oh she did.
Speaker 3:She corrected, oh okay um, just to touch on theo real quick. My favorite description of her is from um steve, actually in episode six, because he's described her as a clenched fist with hair, and to me that show. Yes, yeah I thought that was the best description of her.
Speaker 2:Yes, I liked it, but but what I was going to say along the line with Eric was when we, when we first started watching this, I came in, I burst into his room and I said I fucking hate everybody in the show. He's all really like everybody I can't stand any of them.
Speaker 2:And he goes by the end. It's so good and I was so doubtful, right. The one thing I will tell everybody about this series is, as much as I hated every single one of these characters, it was like the best novel I have ever read. I could not stop watching it. I was watching these damned episodes until like 3 o'clock in the morning and I'm like, okay, okay, okay, gotta stop. And then I would pick it back up the next night. And even after I went live one night and I didn't get off until one o'clock, I still went and watched two episodes, even when I told myself, okay, I'm just gonna do one. So he's right, this is a fantastic series.
Speaker 2:All of the actors again, this is much like I feel about the uh, some of the other movies we've reviewed. The actors are so good that they portray such a real character that I was able to actually feel raw emotion towards them that I actually disliked these people to the point of saying hate, I hate you, but I mean who are? They're fake, they're fictional. They got the better of me. That was.
Speaker 1:It's a fascinating series and I loved all of these characters since you were paying attention so much, did you notice all the hidden ghosts?
Speaker 4:yes, I was literally. I was literally looking for it.
Speaker 1:So many little hidden ghosts that you're not paying attention because it's not in like where the director wants you to look yep, there was one look you know, they'll typically have it centered right, so you'll be looking at the characters, but they're they'll be like a little fucking person standing there, yep, or face the one where they found, or the one where they found nell.
Speaker 2:They found her in the foyer, where, right where they left her. And in that scene they all come back and it's like where were you? I was right here, I was waving my hands and everything behind her, behind one of the posts, there's a face, there's a man standing there looking out at them yeah, and that one scared the crap out of me or more, but at least one. That is so fascinating.
Speaker 1:So good. Love this show so much. I wanted to the one shot episode. The way they pulled that shit off is very impressive, Because the scene where the dad's like what was that?
Speaker 2:What was the one shot? I heard you mention that before.
Speaker 1:It's the two. Uh, storms right, no, no, is it eulogy?
Speaker 3:so six, seven, six and seven are definitely the one shot, and then um so I'm talking about the one where nell's in the casket that's six and they're, you know, fucking Theo's drunk yeah, so I'm talking about that one so
Speaker 1:the way that the camera work in the show. It's so fucking good, cause there's a part where, like the camera's spinning around the dad and it's all one shot. So when it's spinning around it's the adult kids spins around, looks at his face, turns around the kids, like the childhood kids spins around back to adults or like, if it'll, it'll turn, and then the person in the casket's not nell and it'll go back and it's nell again. And then the way that he like she's like, he's like where's the bathroom, you know goes to find the bathroom. Bro got so lost he ended up in the past Seeing himself running down the stairs.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:That happens. So much in this show though.
Speaker 1:You know I'm sure it's not one shot, but it's one shot. You know like they hide the cuts and stuff and I'm really a fan of that type of cinematography. I really like the movie 1902. It's filmed like a one shot. There are cuts, it's a war movie. It's really good. I recommend it. I do the cinematography.
Speaker 4:That's very impressive to do shots like that. Some shows try to do it and they're like okay, but this one was pretty elaborate and it was very, very cool to witness that's.
Speaker 2:I mean that's a. That's a really big deal in film when you have, I mean, you've got so many moving parts and you've got to do it all in one shot, one take, and you mess up anywhere down the line and you're going back to square one, you're going back to the top, and that is such a hard thing to do, the pressure right and that's impressive, I mean, for all of the actors to put forth such emotion all the way through. But I will say Theo of my favorite living character no, was my favorite because I love now, even after death she was still saving her family.
Speaker 4:You know, the mom wanted them all there mvp, mvp, now and now, she was telling her telling Luke no, go away.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Go, don't do it, don't stay, and I thought that was you know. Let me ask you guys a question, because this, this came up. I saw so many people on both sides of this. Do you believe the house to be filled with malevolent spirits or do you think it's a mixture?
Speaker 3:OK, I.
Speaker 2:Yeah, benevolent spirits, or do you think it's?
Speaker 3:a mixture. Okay, I yeah, so I actually I had. I I had a deep dive into this earlier because I was trying to make sure I got all my things right. Um, I actually think it's based on the person. I think it's. I would like to point out.
Speaker 1:I look at her notebook. I just see him big letters.
Speaker 3:Steve is a bitch um, no, I did a deep dive because, um, I think it's based off of the person. Poppy was generally the craziest person in real life and she's craziest in that house now. Abigail, sweet little, she's just a sweet little girl. The old lady that died. Mrs Hill, the one that the Dudley Miss Dudley took care of. She was like don't listen to Poppy. She's a fucking liar and, like that bull hat guy, he wasn't malicious, he just wanted his fucking hat.
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Speaker 2:But to get back to my question, I'll tell you what I think and I generally think this entirely. Now, this is going to be slightly controversial, but I definitely think that ghosts in general this is going to be slightly controversial, but I definitely think that ghosts in general I'm going to say in a general sense, they're always I'm going to say they're always malevolent. And let me explain why. There's always a node of selfishness. And pay attention to the mom. Right, she wanted all of them with her in that house. Right, it was a node of selfishness. All of those ghosts in that house had that note of selfishness.
Speaker 2:And I've always seen ghosts, as mostly you know, we're talking stories in general. I've never had a communication with a ghost and I won't open up communication. But without having that communication, I've had to rely on other people who say they've talked to spirits and it's always in a mournful, sorrowful, doleful way. They're never joyful and that's because they're stuck and they have to watch everybody else around them grow and live and experience and feel and taste. And they can't Exactly. And I think that the mom was very selfish. That's why I throw. Nell is my all-time favorite, because she did, she went against what even that ghost thought can I say nature, I don't know what to call it that ghost nature which would be come with me, be with me, come here with me. And she told her brother it was, and I think it was the twin thing, right? She loved her brother more than she loved herself, which was no save yourself Every single one of them.
Speaker 3:Of course, she broke them all out of, out of their whatever whatever, whatever, whatever poppy was doing to them, just to atone for nell's like character they also mentioned. The dad was, like you know, whenever nell wrote a letter to me every month because she was the only one that kept in contact with him, or she let her. She wrote her letter to santa when she was younger. It was always for her siblings, it was never for herself. She was a self the most selfless.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right.
Speaker 3:And she got the worst shit happen to her.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 4:I don't know if I would say that all the ghosts are malevolent, because there was just some ghosts, that maybe it's just because they didn't play much of a part, but I think of the ghosts like the old lady who told Liv she lies something wrong with that one about poppy and she told her that that one lies, yeah, um, and then you think of, uh, abigail, who I, who was very sweet, um, and also who is the other one, um, the clock worker.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, he didn't do anything, he was just vibing, he was just fixing his clock so, um, just to finish up with episode seven, um, theo and dad's moment.
Speaker 3:Um, when theo is just like why the fuck aren't we telling our family what we just saw? When they got attacked by the little, the little crawly ghost in the fucking funeral home, where it just crawled after them, and she's screaming in her dad's arms and they're like why don't we tell them what we just saw? And he's like trust me, they won't fucking believe us.
Speaker 4:Like he's like bruh look what I've been telling you this whole time right like no communication.
Speaker 1:We brought this up last episode, nobody yes, we did nobody talks to each other in this show. Just talk to each other. Don't lie to each other. Fucking talk to each other in this show. Just talk to each other. Don't lie to each other Fucking talk to each other.
Speaker 4:But I mean, well, here's the thing. So, like the dad tried, he said that he treated it like a door and his arms were too busy trying to hold the monsters back, that he didn't have enough arms to hold his kids when they needed him. But at the same time there was a lot of shit like that. He was explaining to Steve where Steve was like yeah, you built that treehouse. And he's like when the hell would I have built that treehouse? We were going to be there for eight months tops. When the hell would I have had time to build a treehouse? And where did I build a treehouse? And Steve is like, oh yeah. And he's like are you kidding me? And he was like and that clock was completely, I was never going to get that clock repaired. I never hired a guy to do that and he explained how those are.
Speaker 2:Those clocks can only be repaired by specialists, and they would never be sent out to be worked on. They would have to come, uh, or they would only sent be sent out. They would never be worked on in the house yeah and that they leave marks when they do this kind of work, and they had it appraised afterwards.
Speaker 4:My whole point is that, um, the dad was telling them they knew they, just they were too young to really know. And he it's hard to say no, your mom was killed by a haunted house when everything else in the world is saying, look, we can't say that your dad killed her, but it looks like and it looks like. We just can't prove it.
Speaker 1:AKA Fucking little bitch boy, the part where he's like the wrong parent died, and then freaking Nell falls over in the casket.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That shit was. I was like, ooh Well, that's the emotion, that's the raw, and I like to think that, you know, because I was there, I was there the whole time Nell, you know, just pushed herself over.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, she did, that was definitely Nell.
Speaker 3:Focus on me. Yeah, I'm important for once.
Speaker 1:Focus on me acting like I'm not here. Well, she she wasn't yeah, no, oh, my god somebody in the chat just said she turned in her grave that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4:She wasn't saying focus on me. I disagree with that, because I don't think that was ever what nell wanted. I think what she was saying is stop fucking arguing. You're tearing yourselves apart. This house is trying to kill you and you guys are too busy fighting each other. You're letting it happen. You're feeding it. Yeah, you're literally doing its job for it. Great job. That was the same thing in the car when Theo and Shirley were arguing, and then Nell fucking jumpscares and makes me shit.
Speaker 1:My pants I was. I was with eric when he was watching. He's like I'll let you know when it happens, because you know he knew he knows about it. I was like you get to that part. He's like no, he's like you'll probably know when it happens.
Speaker 4:He's like I wasn't, I was like I was doing something and I was watching it and I was looking away, so I didn't realize that they were in the car yet. So I just heard them talking. And then I look up and right as I looked up, it was that because they started getting tense and they started yelling. And so that's when I was like, oh, I feel like it's. And then I look up and that's when she jumped out and screamed and it scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to tell you the when I was watching that and the absolute coincidence that took place exactly at the same exact time that she did this. So I'm lying in my bed and I have an end table right next to my bed, so I had my phone propped up on the end table. So I'm laying on my side, I'm looking at my phone, I have my earbud in, I'm watching this and I'm even like propped up on one one arm because this is just like riveting right and it gets to that part and Nell jumps in between the two seats and screams at them and it fucking freaked me out. And now it's. It's tough to scare me. I've been exposed to a lot of horror since I was young and so I gave a little start. But then what really got me was it just so happened that my wife had gotten out of bed and she had walked right past my peripheral right after that moment? So I like start, and then I start a second time Me and Eric were freaking wanting.
Speaker 1:we're waiting for you to get to that part, cause we mentioned it in one of our episodes. We're like dude, dude, the freaking car part yeah, that scene is wild because, it's unexpected. Like yeah, I I've watched horror movies growing up, you know forever. I watched nightmare on elm street when I was like four, you know, so I know when jump scares are gonna happen. You can just tell with that. They're just in the car, they're in the car that one just comes out of nowhere like out of nowhere, bet neck lady like you.
Speaker 4:you don't. You don't expect it, like no part of your body ever expects that to happen at that moment, and that one gets you really good. I, I realized. Actually, I think that scene has given me a little bit of PTSD, because I was in the car it's broad daylight, by the way, and I was in the car. I just got off work and I was taking one dog home, and so the dog's in my back seat and I'm sitting in the driver's seat, and what the dog did is she stuck her head in between the seat and stuck it right next to my head.
Speaker 4:She stuck her head in between the seat and stuck it right next to my head, but when she did it it scared the shit out of me because all of a sudden there was just the sunlight. The sunlight just got blocked and there was just a head there and it scared the fuck out of me.
Speaker 3:That's great um for those witness marks. The reason I wrote this is where I wrote steve is a bitch like in big letters because he fucked over his wife so hard he let her oh yeah, he wanted to grow a family with her. This whole time he had a vasectomy and refused to tell her because he was scared which I understand him being scared to pass on a mental illness. That's a completely understandable issue. But at the same time, he didn't communicate anything with her and he let her just believe that there was all these issues and they went through thousands of dollars and like.
Speaker 3:I was like fuck Steve, bro. That's painful. No wonder she fucking broke it off with him Like bam.
Speaker 4:Can I bring up something about that At the end, when it's like the happily ever after everybody who survived survived thing. Steve is with lee again and she's pregnant. What do we think happened there?
Speaker 3:they probably got a sperm donor or the ivf.
Speaker 4:Yeah there's a lot of options. They just he didn't well, not a permanent one. Well, yeah, I I fully agree, but that that's what I'm wondering Was it a temporary vasectomy or was it a permanent vasectomy?
Speaker 3:Vasectomies can be reversed.
Speaker 4:Ghost, not permanent ones, there are temporary ones and then there's permanent ones. The way he made it sound was like he got a permanent one when he was telling his dad because if he got a temporary one, then wouldn't you just think that he'd be like yeah, I don't know, I'm not gonna get it undone though, but he never even mentioned anything like that.
Speaker 3:he just said like, yeah, I got it and I lied to her and I was pretty shitty for that ghost baby, but he never considered getting it undone, so I think ghost baby is a good theory actually well, I mean, you know the ghost baby that was like she was like if it eats me alive, will you still love me like it's?
Speaker 2:it's the tall dude, and then I know he hit and then now to the rescue dude so one of the things that I I would I actually marveled at. I loved how they came back around and answered so many questions right. You had those scary moments where Theo was in her dance studio and the door starts fucking around with.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's a cool one, and you're like she goes over, saw hello and they couldn't hear her on the outside. But then all of a sudden it goes to the other side and you see that was early, early on in the episodes that was Cheryl and and Nell trying to get the key to get in. That was wild. And then you even see how the shadow moves across the door. Yeah, like all of that was awesome.
Speaker 4:But yeah, no, I do like how all those there's a lot of little tiny details that get put together, especially in the last episode.
Speaker 2:The last episode really ties up a lot of loose ends well, the the point that I'm that I'm wanting to make with that is how many scares that went through in the entire series that were nothing scary right, it was just the other family members, it was stuff like that but then how many things were really there that they never noticed, just like we just figured out right now.
Speaker 1:How long did it take for you to realize the plot twist at the end? Because when I watched this originally, I noticed the window in the treehouse in the dance room. Oh I did it, he did that's such a brilliant fucking detail.
Speaker 4:It's the same window. All the scenes where they're in the red room, where you don't know it's the red room yet, but like Steve's game room, the mom's reading room, even Luke's treehouse, it all has that really thin rectangle window. But it always looks a little different because it's different outside and it's different interior, so it always looks different. But it's such a. It's such a like, what do you call it?
Speaker 4:like um yeah, it's like a pivotal feature that stays there and it's like when you see it, like when they flash all those scenes back to back, you're like, holy shit, like we've seen them in the Red Room, every single one of them. And they even show you the inside of the red room within like the first four episodes. They show you like you actually see inside the red room. You know it's the inside of the red room, you see the window and unless you're fucking tj, I, I, I knew that window and I did not put that together. So what?
Speaker 2:what twist? Specifically are you talking about the red room being every room?
Speaker 1:They're all their spaces.
Speaker 2:I thought you meant the dad. That's what I thought you were talking about.
Speaker 1:Nell never had a freaking, you know whatever Fucking nobody had. Tea party room, fucking room, playroom yeah it was all the red room and when I originally watched this. I noticed the window and I was like that's weird that this house has the same fucking window.
Speaker 4:yeah, it also explains how. What's his face? I think it was Steve, where the mom was like I'm gonna go to my reading room. Oh no, I think it was Shirley and Nell in the kitchen where the mom was like I have a headache, I'm gonna go to my reading room. Oh no, I think it was shirley and nell in the kitchen where the mom was like I have a headache, I'm gonna go to my reading room and then she walks away and then nell's like where's her reading room and shirley's like she's not feeling well, just let her go you know, the other thing that I thought was absolutely fucked was the mom was the one who punished uh nell for writing on the wall, and it was fucking her well, yeah she um, that's the mom was possessed at that point, right.
Speaker 3:Like that's, that's when mom was like like key point, has a screwdriver to his fucking neck point, you know what I mean. Like she drew that blueprint over and over again. Like she's possessed. Um, now, at the end, nell is technically awake.
Speaker 2:Nell is the most awake she's ever been and she kind of describes that at the end when she's talking about how life is confetti and all these moments just kind of yes, oh, you know, there was something else that she had said that was very interesting, when she was explaining all of the issues with time, and she had said you know, life is confetti and she was. What was interesting was you heard her talking and none of it was making any sense, right? But then they asked the question again and then she read she said that answer again and all of a sudden everything made sense.
Speaker 4:She was saying things out of order.
Speaker 2:Somebody said it's the stomach.
Speaker 4:No, somebody said this room looks familiar. And she said we've all been here, and that's when she started repeating it all. And you're like oh shit, and that's when they revealed the bedroom.
Speaker 2:She's been saying that over and over again that explains that also.
Speaker 4:That's a nice detail for the whole. She's not in the same time as them. She's like she was saying. Things seem a little clearer now like she's able to be in the same time with them right instead of she caught.
Speaker 1:It's like they caught up with her yeah, I rat poison in the veins you don't survive that.
Speaker 4:No, no, what? Absolutely not. No, no, absolutely not. You drink rat poison and you're dead. Like what Inject it in your veins? No, you're dead.
Speaker 3:As sad as that was, Luke should have not been able to be brought back.
Speaker 1:Maybe he has some real strong veins, you know.
Speaker 4:Dude, it's the heroin.
Speaker 1:The heroin was fighting off the the rat poison Solidified his fucking arteries.
Speaker 4:You know, when I first, when I first saw this scene, I thought he injected himself with gasoline Cause I thought that just made the most sense. But but when I first saw the scene and before you saw the rat poison, I predicted that he was gonna inject himself after seeing everybody else be haunted. I was like, oh yeah, he definitely is gonna.
Speaker 3:He's gonna like look down and he's gonna be injected and it's gonna be like gasoline or something and then they tricked me with the rat poison, but the thing is is like luke was very in my opinion, he was very smart for like he was just like this house needs to fucking burn, like I'm gonna go burn this house down, I don't care what it takes. It took my sister, it took my mom, like this house is done for, and that's when he went, and then he goes to like that match and everything goes like nothing in his mom appears like so maybe courageous or brave I don't know about smart okay maybe not smart, but courageous and brave was definitely it um yeah, now I agree dad was like the dad told.
Speaker 3:When the dad was telling steve he was like that was the stupidest thing he could have done. He went back to that house and then and then you know we go into the he got poisoned and I this house is an avengers level threat.
Speaker 1:It is an avenger.
Speaker 3:This shit needs a nuke it needs to be torn down so I I wanted to.
Speaker 4:I thought about that. Do we think? I started thinking about that when the fire didn't work. I was thinking like what would work? Something has to work, right. I immediately thought a nuke, but I was like a nuke might be. Just a wrecking ball. Well, I was like a nuke might be excessive, maybe like a carpet bomb? Possibly, but do we think the bomb would explode? And then, after all the dust settles, the house is still just standing there.
Speaker 1:I don't want any of the dust to settle, considering the whole freaking house is moldy, bro. The red room is ugh.
Speaker 3:I forgot about this thing that I have. I actually came up with this um conspiracy. So back in like the 1920s, 1930s, do you know what was super popular? Aka when poppy's time was seances, seances and ouija oh, right, right, right right so what if that's what started it and that's when they invited more evil into their house? And then poppy's crazy. All this other stuff happens. She kills her kids like, and then do they ever explain? Energy into this house, like that's a theory that I have here's my theory started to become haunted.
Speaker 1:I think that the whole family is just extremely like in their dna, like it's in their. They're just allergic to mold so bad that they're just tripping.
Speaker 4:Any slight bit of mold.
Speaker 1:Cars can get mold in them. What if they just seen Nell? Because there's a little bit of mold in the car.
Speaker 4:You're starting to sound like Steve bro. Anything, but what's actually happening, man?
Speaker 1:Yo.
Speaker 3:You remember what Maddie said about shout out to your number?
Speaker 1:one fan official says alex should know he was there back in the 19th so what was that like when seances and ouija boards were so popular? Satanic panic. How did you feel?
Speaker 2:you know, I'm gonna give you guys another story minus two points for a story from when you were in hill house uh, yeah, yeah, no, actually I wanted to ask. I wanted to ask maddie or any of you guys, if you, if you know, if you remember, because I remember I liked the scene but I can't remember what the olivia saw. She sat down at that desk, that steve for her, he painted it all up, had the mirror.
Speaker 3:On it she saw the twins dead. That's right. She looked in the mirror and she knew, she knew that these were her twins and they were both dead.
Speaker 2:But she saw them in the red room right.
Speaker 3:Yes, she was in the red room where Steve had painted her that moldy freaking thing, yeah, just a little desk and just painted over the mold. You know, know that's fine, um, and then she looks in that mirror and she sees her twins grown and dead and she's just like, no, I just. That's the screaming mimi's episode where she's like she's right, my kids are like I can't protect my kids. They're dying, like they're out there dying and that's why she lost it you know what's so funny, the irony in that?
Speaker 2:right, they're out there dying. No, they weren't, they were right there with her. She died in the house, although I was so freaking mad at nell when she went back to the house and then I saw I saw her, you know, dancing around because of course I didn't know her story. And then as soon as I saw her story I was like, oh my god, like all she wants is to be back with her husband and she's like reaching out and of course she has a quack of a doctor, which I did like. That everybody was right about that.
Speaker 1:Right, he was a quack, he was a quack because of the mold, I think this guy's gonna hold to his mold theory, man fucking her husband dying from a brain aneurysm is literally my worst fucking fear that's what happened to my dad that is my worst fear um that's what happened to my grandma.
Speaker 4:Do we genuinely think that he just died from a natural brain aneurysm, or do we think it was the bent neck? Lady?
Speaker 1:no, unfortunately, I think, because the bent neck lady is her maybe, maybe, like uh, maybe wibbly wobbly fucking, timey-wimey fucking time energy from her teleporting through time as a ghost caused some sort of wave that permeated his maybe or the mold dude. She had mold in the sheets you?
Speaker 4:You know how, when a ghost walks through a person, they're like, oh, it's so cold or whatever. Yeah, haven't you seen there's been movies where a ghost walks through a person and they die of cardiac arrest or something like that has any of the ghosts in this show died of a brain aneurysm, and whenever he walks through somebody you know.
Speaker 3:That could be it but that would be kind of crazy I truly think that it was an extremely unfortunate circumstance because I know for a fact, like we've talked about, nell is so selfless that she would never do that to her husband and the ghost no, exactly her was herself, so I know.
Speaker 4:Well, I know, but I'm not thinking on purpose. No, I know, but no, I'm not saying she did on purpose like she would do everything she could to prevent it, you know, but she had no control in that moment.
Speaker 4:Those were the moments. Those were the moments where nell had just died and she was going back through she was like rapidly haunting all of her past moments. She went through that moment. She had no control of what was happening, which is why I don't think she did it on purpose, but I wonder if the bent neck lady I don't think so did it I don't think so, or if it was just a really freak accident at the end of the day, I think you know, at the.
Speaker 1:At the end of the day, no fucking deserved it, bro. She wrote on that wall, bro. She wrote on that wall. She fucking does no. I on that wall, she fucking does no.
Speaker 4:I'm joking. Yeah, honestly, vandalism is not a joke.
Speaker 1:Vandalism is not a joke, Jim it ruins millions of families every year.
Speaker 3:Andrea in the comments said earlier Andrea in the comments she mentioned how fucking sad the Dudleys ended up. I also cried at that. They did not deserve anything that happened to them. They were so kind. He was very polite when he was telling um the dad, like maybe your missus needs some time away, like because this house made my, my wife, crazy. But the minute she stepped out for a while she was fine and everything went and then they they made the point did they never go to the?
Speaker 2:they made the point that they wouldn't go at night or they wouldn't be in the house at night exactly?
Speaker 1:did they never go shopping? I know they never went anywhere eight, no, no, no, I'm talking about main family. Were they never out of this house eight months? Well, okay, tops and they. So here's the thing for food, okay hang on.
Speaker 4:We didn't see every second of their lives. We can assume that they left to do various things.
Speaker 1:You get out of the house, you become less crazy. So, like you would leave, you'd go to the store.
Speaker 4:Not the mom, though Not the mom.
Speaker 1:Not the mom, you'd go to the store and you'd feel like you know, like I feel a little clearer out here.
Speaker 3:Miss Dudley brought in groceries one day, just to say that Okay.
Speaker 1:so it's fucking Miss Dudley's fault.
Speaker 3:It's not. She warned them they both warned them.
Speaker 1:It's her fault for bringing in the groceries they're like. Our kid is never allowed in here the minute the kid went in there.
Speaker 3:She died.
Speaker 1:These lazy ass people not going to get their own fucking groceries Also where?
Speaker 4:MJ just wants to rip on them. Where are the?
Speaker 1:dogs. There was no dogs. No, they didn't exist. No, but like why? Why dogs?
Speaker 4:Why, oh yeah, they never really brought that back up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, why dogs?
Speaker 4:It was just a thing that happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, it would be funny if the you know old lady who like died just like the.
Speaker 4:You know they're just hearing about. That would be very funny. At the very end the old lady shows up. She's like oh yeah by the way, the dogs were mine.
Speaker 3:That's it. Another theory um is that monster in the basement that like traumatized luke yeah that might. Maybe that was the demon they fucking summoned in the 1920s. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:That was the only like real physical thing.
Speaker 4:But even then, yeah, but even then he, luke, even said, though he said, like it, it ripped my clothes, but it never scratches me. Like it never, it never actually leaves a mark. And so he, the way that he worded that, no, it didn't leave a mark on him. It ripped his clothes, well, yeah, but it didn't physically leave anything. So he was saying, like it never leaves a mark, like they never believe me because it doesn't actually leave a mark.
Speaker 1:It left a mark so hard in his brain. He went to the sauce. He got lost in the sauce. He got lost in the sauce Through the Toes is wild, I'd like to repeat that I said that last episode he was shooting the sauce through the toes Right next to Nell, your baby sister Making Nell buy it. Twin sister 90 seconds 90 seconds 90 second baby sister Minus 2,000 points.
Speaker 4:That seems very fair and just your Honor, eric plus 1 point, minus 1 point for Eric. I fucking hate you. You know what? I hope you go to Hill House.
Speaker 1:Plus 800,000 points to the host. This feels rigged. I don't know Does that seem fair.
Speaker 2:No, no, nothing TJ does seems fair, yeah it seems to me like.
Speaker 4:Your number one fan official says minus 2,000 points to Alex for summoning the demon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was the crystal ball that summoned it.
Speaker 4:Damn oh okay, guys, they flipped it over and there was a beard. That's how it holds it up. We got anything else? Um, last thing I wanted to say, I wanted to bring up, was uh, there was another plot twist at the end. How long before you guys realized the dad was dead?
Speaker 3:oh, I, I knew instantly, the minute, the minute he went up there with steve and he was locked out, I knew that bitch was dead. Because, like he, like he explained, I was, like he was talking to his wife and I, just I had this feeling. I was like he's dead or he's dying, like he's gonna sacrifice himself for these kids one way or the other, like he always has.
Speaker 1:And immediately I knew I yeah, the second he had a real bad feeling and I was like there's something, there's something going on. I didn't relate to him at all.
Speaker 4:The second he said something where he was like I'll make you a deal or something like that. And the second he said that I was like, oh man, he's going to offer to stay for eternity with her.
Speaker 2:So I knew that right. I knew there was going to be some kind of a deal he was going to make. But when I knew he was dead was when he was walking out with Steve and was going to make. But when I knew he was dead was when he was walking out yes, steve, and he said are you going to tell him? And steve said no.
Speaker 4:I think steve was the only person who saw his body lying down right you know, that's not even what I know I noticed, um, I don't know if this was actually intended to give it away, but when they were carrying luke out, there was a moment where they hit the edge of the of the house and there it's like he hits a wall for a second and then they go. And that was another moment where I was like, oh, he's definitely dead.
Speaker 1:What like when you become a ghost, sure? Why are some of these motherfuckers just regular and some are just the bent neck lady Like, like. What the fuck that's so messed up?
Speaker 2:But I think it's how you die. But.
Speaker 4:I well, I also think they. I think they change depending on the moment, because even Nell would sometimes show up as regular Nell and then sometimes she would show up as bent neck lady. So I think it just yeah, regular Nell, and then sometimes she would show up as bent neck lady. So I think it just yeah. Yeah also Poppy. Poppy would sometimes appear completely normal and then sometimes Poppy would appear really gross looking.
Speaker 1:Poppy was pretty cute Poppy was hot.
Speaker 4:I don't care if she's crazy, I'll be down no, poppy was hot, um, but so, like the grandma though, that the old lady never appeared normal, she always appeared really ghoul-y looking, even in the reflection.
Speaker 3:When Theo was like checking everything, you see the reflection of her, maybe like Wasn't it Luke. Or it might have been. I thought it was Theo.
Speaker 4:No, theo felt the bed and she was like I don't like this bed, I don't like this room, I'm fucking out of here. No, that was Luke. I don't like this bed, I don't like this room, I'm fucking out of here. No, that was Luke. That was Luke when he was talking into the little speaker thing and then the old lady said something and he looked in the reflection and he saw the old lady there and then he panicked and he was running down the stairs as slow as he possibly could. We're looking for now. But Theo touched the bed, she touched the pillow and she was like I don't fucking like this place and dipped out. Oh yeah, she said this is a sick bed, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like maybe the older the ghost, the more you like lose yourself. Or like the more malevolent the more you attach to that side.
Speaker 4:But she wasn't malevolent, the old lady was very chill, she was just sick.
Speaker 3:She tried to warn Liv. Yeah, she warned Liv.
Speaker 4:I think it just depends on the ghost. I don't think. I think most of the ghosts were not malevolent. I think they were trapped in a very malevolent house.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just to PS, that, like the PS thing, runny Egg Eyes will forever be in my memory. I just would like to point that out. Runny Egg Eyes was not okay. That shit has scarred me every time I watch it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's pretty freaky.
Speaker 3:I just want to say thank you guys so much for letting me be on the podcast. I don't know if you can tell I'm obsessed with this show.
Speaker 1:I've watched it so many times it is my favorite show.
Speaker 4:Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3:Thank you for letting me be on here and I really appreciate everybody in the comments interacting with my questions as well, because I saw that a couple times. And thank you, babe, and do you want to announce the winner?
Speaker 1:I would like to announce the winner. I would like to announce the winner. Who's the winner? Um, so it was a real tough fight. There are points being thrown everywhere. I don't know why. Yeah, alex clearly won, though Alex. Clearly, alex had negative two million points. Um.
Speaker 4:When.
Speaker 1:I I'm not sure I'm looking at my paper I have in front of me.
Speaker 4:um, oh yeah yeah, could you show that paper, eric?
Speaker 1:has approximately negative one million, which is crazy that it's. You know.
Speaker 4:Approximately the same you know oh, that's crazy, and then I don't even remember the word million being thrown around, but really, really guys, because we're, you know, such a democratic republic of a podcast. This is starting to sound exactly like our elections.
Speaker 1:I would like a vote.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, a vote, we got four here Okay. I think A vote is for Alex. Okay, we got one for Alex. My vote's for Alex. We got two for Alex.
Speaker 4:I don't want to host.
Speaker 2:My vote is that Maddie takes over for TJ.
Speaker 4:Yeah, tj, you're not allowed in the next episode. Actually, that's great. I kind of like that one.
Speaker 1:I was really thinking that you know, because this was Eric's pick. I would, just, you know, be host next time too. You know, you could have done another one.
Speaker 4:You didn't have to do part two right away. Okay, but hear me out. Also hear me out. You were one of the people who was like we should do Haunting of Hill House. This is also your pick.
Speaker 1:Okay, but hear me out, Hear me out, hear me out, hear me out. I think, as we are a democratic republic, I think next episode, no host. We just read scary, spooky stuff, because it is almost the end of october.
Speaker 4:I mean I'm okay, yeah, oh shoot it'll be the first.
Speaker 2:It'll be the first wait.
Speaker 4:Well, actually no, I think this episode will be uh on ha.
Speaker 2:No, halloween's next Thursday.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, it's not Friday. No, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3:If you guys went live Thursday, this would be a scary story.
Speaker 4:We could we go live on TikTok. Well, he's got the babies, I think.
Speaker 1:We could do a special episode where we just you know it could be special.
Speaker 4:We could figure something out that could be cool.
Speaker 1:Fuck a will you survive? Scenario. We just do special episode with the people in the chat Reddit scary stories. We Reddit scary stories. I want everybody to choose. I don't know a couple 20 minute ones. You know like three 20 minute ish reads, you know, oh my god, I'm not reading for 20 minutes. Motherfucker, pick a story, pick a story, I don't care.
Speaker 4:I lose interest when Alex tells a joke longer than 20 seconds I will make sure that we stay within the bounds. Okay, I mean I'm down, so here's my only concern with that how do we decide a winner from that?
Speaker 1:I'll decide it right now by asking my wife who should win, or we let the chat decide.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah now by asking my wife who should win.
Speaker 1:So or we let the chat decide, because oh yeah, I said alex and he's the only one voting, so I think me, him and eric, I'll say alex okay, alex wins my professional hey is alex.
Speaker 3:So next episode is you guys just doing the scary stories, and then the one after that is when alex hosts yeah, okay, yeah, we could do that, I think that you know we I'm here for that we gotta do something a little different.
Speaker 1:Special episode. I counted your vote, don't worry. Special episode. Alex is the winner. Next, next episode um, you guys heard it here first. You know I've had such a great time with you guys. You know this is such a great story and, like you know, my wife's here and I don't know where I'm going with this. Alex, can you hurry up and read the goddamn socials to all the people?
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Speaker 1:It's alex and eric wys at alex and eric wys um and if you want to venmo me a thousand dollars um, my venmo is at. Tj needs your money um that is actually his venmo that is actually eric can testify. That is actually my venmo, um. But yeah, this has been the will you survive podcast, um. Thank you all for listening to the will you survive podcast. My name is tj, that's eric, that's alex them both.
Speaker 4:I just don't want to say anything it is 1227 am.
Speaker 1:on a Friday night and I'm a little tipsy, I took a couple swigs from some tequila. But you know, until next time, stay alive. Don't drink too much alcohol. Stay away from mold. It really causes issues. No-transcript.
