Will You Survive... The Podcast
Immerse yourself in the world of cinema as we embark on a journey to equip you with the skills to tackle any disaster head-on. Through the lens of thrilling tales, particularly those of the zombie apocalypse, we'll unravel the secrets of preparedness. Join us as we explore the silver screen to empower you for the challenges that lie ahead.
Will You Survive... The Podcast
Will You Survive "All of Us Are Dead" Pt 2: Character Arcs and Zombie Survival Tactics
How would you survive a zombie apocalypse? Get ready for a spirited discussion as we celebrate Alex's birthday with laughter and a few jabs about age while introducing our dynamic co-hosts, Eric and TJ. As we dissect episodes five through eight of "All of Us Are Dead," we explore the riveting themes of character development and survival strategies. Discover the compelling arcs of characters like the bully and Namra, who develop immunity to the virus, and experience the emotional highs when Chung San bares his heart to his best friend amidst chaotic zombie-infested surroundings.
Is surviving alone ever truly feasible? We unravel this complex question while diving into the morality of survival in dire circumstances, like a zombie apocalypse. The controversial actions of Nayeon spark a debate on the influence of upbringing and isolation on decision-making. We don't shy away from critiquing the inefficiencies of a government's response to crisis, pondering whether real power lies with corporations instead. The episode takes a gripping turn as we question the ethical dilemmas faced by both government and individuals under immense pressure.
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Speaker 2:Hello survivors and welcome to another special episode of Will you Survive?
Speaker 1:Alex's Birthday.
Speaker 3:It's his birthday. He is 145 years old, born in 1901.
Speaker 2:Dude, do the math.
Speaker 1:That was like way off, but that's pretty much right.
Speaker 3:Born in 1879.
Speaker 2:Let's go there, you go.
Speaker 1:Happy birthday, Alex. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3:Happy birthday it's accelerated aging.
Speaker 2:Accelerated aging. Every shot he takes it goes up every shot I take dang, then you would be close. He's way past 145. Thank you very much for that. For the birthday wishes I want to go ahead and introduce our co-hosts today and, uh, what we're going to be discussing. So, first of all, our co-host number one you are, I'm co-host number one.
Speaker 1:Um, and this is co-host number two. Why am I number two? Why, because he made me number one.
Speaker 3:Get in line okay, but um, arguably, I feel like I should get you know well, he makes great compelling points if it makes you feel any better.
Speaker 2:Why don't you go back to uh elementary school reasoning?
Speaker 3:okay, first the worst. Second, black right. It's because I'm number two, because I'm black. This guy always makes it about race yeah, I went.
Speaker 2:I went the elementary school rules first the worst, second the best warning I'm black and with that uh their names are Eric and TJ, for all of you who didn't catch that.
Speaker 1:A so small part of me thought you were going to say Eric and Token. No, not Token. I thought I felt it coming, not Token it's not Token, it's Tolkien. It's.
Speaker 2:Tolkien because his parents were huge. Jrr Tolkien fans.
Speaker 1:It most certainly is not Tolkien. They tried to cover that shit up so hard dude.
Speaker 2:Even eric cartman knew it was tolkien. It was only that racist kyle. He was the only one who didn't and all of america well yeah and everybody else.
Speaker 2:But with that we are talking about all of us are dead, specifically episodes five through eight, and I had some things prepared for you guys. I wanted to know, uh, some specific things like okay, we're gonna discuss a few things. I want to talk about the character development, I want to talk about survival strategies. I want to talk about this one is a lot harder because I think I think this particular topic deserves some discussion, which is the theme of isolation, meaning I think we would be, I think more people would have gone mad being so isolated for so long. So I want to talk about some of these things and we have more, just in case we have more time. But with that, let's go into the character development. We have witnessed that there are people I think we witnessed this earlier on there are people who are immune to this virus, if you will, as sorts. They're kind of if you will.
Speaker 1:It's more like the T virus. That's what I was going to say. Go ahead, run with that. Well, yeah, they kind of bond with it, which the scientist or the high school science teacher was talking about, where he was saying that if the virus ever found a way to coexist with human conscious, that would be like a whole new monster. And that's exactly what happened, and it's happening in varying degrees. Uh, amongst uh yunji, that one dude who the bully, who kind of sucks, and namra, yeah, butchering all the names, but we know who we're talking about. I think you got it.
Speaker 2:I think you got all of them but yeah, phone smash chick mullet bitch, silent bitch and the hot prez nice prez, prez.
Speaker 3:I like that one.
Speaker 2:I like that one. So in that, in that whole dynamic, we've also had a little more. We've had a little more character development with our characters. So of course this is a little bit later, but I'll go ahead and throw it out now. When Chung San finally revealed to his best friend for life that he has feelings for her, and that was Was that at the end of 8? I think that was towards the end of eight. Okay, okay, you didn't quite get there.
Speaker 1:No, we watched it, but we were watching it on two times speed.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:So I definitely and we were discussing things.
Speaker 3:I don't think it was at the end of eight, it was.
Speaker 2:It was. She got mad at him, she sent him away and then right then the bully climbed up, so it was right at the end of eight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were definitely talking during that part, but I do remember that.
Speaker 2:So it was one of those things that it's like. I liked how they did this, because when you're about to die, what else?
Speaker 3:do you do? What do you?
Speaker 2:say you confess your love, and I think so.
Speaker 1:Right, you want to know what part made me like, made my heart feel good even more. What's that?
Speaker 3:Was made my heart feel good even more.
Speaker 1:What's that Was when he took her side about SOS yeah, do you know what that was in reference to? Yeah, yeah, where she earlier she was telling him that you never take my side Right, and he told her that you always take his side Right, and so that was his way of just taking her side, even if he didn't know whether she was right or wrong.
Speaker 2:That was very sweet, but ironically okay, so I'll get into that this is a little premature. But and then she kicked him. She was right, everything she said about that is right.
Speaker 1:Sos actually means nothing. Oh, I thought it's the first.
Speaker 2:Save our ship no people like to say that, but that's um. They call that a backronym. They came up with that after the distress signal had already been in use. So as soon as the uh radios came into existence and were put on ships, the ships and uh radio men had to find a way to easily display their distress. Sos just happens to be the easiest because it's three dot three dash.
Speaker 3:I was gonna ask eric, I was gonna see if he oh no, I, I did know that because of fucking jeopardy. Yeah, good, that's very important to know, because you can do that with like you know and you don't need electronics to do it.
Speaker 2:You can flash a mirror, or yeah, you know something like that, it's actually something in literature that when you read on SOS, they actually point this out on purpose is that it's a very modern convention, that people will write it out in the sand and the way they did on the roof, because, of course, when this was first invented, airplanes wasn't even a possibility.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so no one was going to see you from the sky, right? You might know this because you were born in 1601 and my source is that, uh, somebody said that in the chat. I think Josh said that um is 911 of sorts of acronym. Has it always been 911? Has that always been the emergency?
Speaker 3:No, nine, nine, nine. There's one. Nine, nine, nine is Europe.
Speaker 1:No? What was the no? What was the American emergency line before 911?
Speaker 2:Before 911, I believe it was simply operator.
Speaker 3:Well, back in the day, Alex would just have to go out, get out, hang his head out the window and just help, help me, help and eventually.
Speaker 2:I never once did that.
Speaker 1:Remember he had the only other. What was it a telegram with? Was that who made it? I thought it was Franklin.
Speaker 2:Oh, the telegram. You might be right there, but Graham Bell made the phone.
Speaker 1:No, no, like the essentially. Yeah, he's old, that's the joke. He's a kid who used smoke signals.
Speaker 3:You know technology's advancing.
Speaker 2:When he got to Jamestown and he met the indians, so I do actually know a couple of smoke signals not helping your case I do actually. Well, I mean, you know it's, it's stuff that you would you should know. Right, use the earth to find help bro, this is not going to be a short episode bro, I'm not going to, I'm not going to bash the natives in the slightest, because those motherfuckers are awesome. And I really do respect their way of life.
Speaker 1:No, I do too. They do things right, they actually respect nature and they use it as intended.
Speaker 2:We have screwed up so bad. And one of the sayings I got now this is terrible, to admit, because I got it from the TV show Yellowstone, but I still thought it was an appropriate saying is the Native American way of life is living with the land, and we have come to live on the land and off of the land. Right, we take from it, take from it. Yeah they, they believe in giving back as much as they take from which. I think that's like the best stewardship. If you're, if you call yourself the dominating force on the planet, why are you not taking care of the planet? And I'm not, I'm, I'm really not like some uh, tree hugging hippie. I don't believe in all of the nonsense that that they so far no oil burning, blah, blah, blah, because, let's face it, the Native Americans believed in fire, burning wood.
Speaker 2:But the biggest difference was they gave thanks for everything. They would cut down Use every part of animals, use every part of the tree that they would cut down. They would strip the leaves, the bark. They would be able to use everything. They would waste nothing. They were brilliant at using all of it. And the fact that we, you know, we can't, we can't do that and really the more I love buffalo yeah
Speaker 1:well, as a species, we're well not I mean, I think it's species wide really like. I think, uh, not all, but most of humankind does this that we're very much like. Uh, particularly in america I'll focus on america we're very wasteful, um, especially in america, when it comes to food. The way that our food is grown, where so much of what's grown is not used or not sold right, um, purely because it doesn't look right or it just wasn't big enough, or whatever the case be, it's a lot of wasted food, yeah.
Speaker 2:One thing I could use as an example of lack of waste that has been banned is hemp. We used to be able to use hemp for paper or rope or clothes.
Speaker 3:We're starting to get back into it, though.
Speaker 2:Why did it get?
Speaker 1:I know, why did it get banned?
Speaker 2:so that's a big conspiracy theory. That, uh, we should get into some other time, but it's, it's huge, like and I do believe some of it is. It was the newspaper conglomerates that had pushed to ban hemp because they could make hemp paper so much cheaper, and hemp because it's weed. It is a weed. They could grow it so fast and so cheap and they didn't need irrigation, they didn't need any, it would just grow. And now it wouldn't be, you know, smokable.
Speaker 3:but that's not the point of hemp. It's a different thing, all right.
Speaker 2:And so. But you could make baskets out of it, you can make rope out of it, you can make clothes out of it. You can make rope out of it. You can make clothes out of it, you can make sacks out of it. Take the oil. Use the oil for burning lamps.
Speaker 3:I use that. I use it for my hair. I have hemp seed like stuff.
Speaker 2:Hemp seed oil is really good for your skin Like every single part of that plant could be used. What do you guys think about the themes of isolation, of having to be alone, all the different groups? I'm glad that some of these people didn't have to be completely alone, like, say, the firefighter. Yeah, but how do you think you would fare in a situation like this?
Speaker 3:all on your own. I'd be completely fine. I like it, what I don't like people anyways. So I would be chill. Uh, you know, if I was held up in that closet with the food, I'd be vibing okay, speaking of her, well, do you think she was vibing?
Speaker 1:oh?
Speaker 3:absolutely no she definitely wasn't, she was tweaking she was seeing dead people so but like yeah, I get both sides.
Speaker 1:Tj and I got into a discussion about this that I think you walked in on while we were mid conversation, but you only heard my side of it. I felt bad for her, um, not to say. This is nayeon, I think her name was. She murdered that guy. Yep, she straight up killed that guy. It was cold, it was calculated.
Speaker 1:She is a murderer. Her actions are not justified. However, we have to remember that this is a high school, so she is a child, and this is a situation none of us can say we have been in or even been in something close to it. None of us have been in anything as stressful as a zombie apocalypse. That will do something to the human psyche.
Speaker 1:I can see how her upbringing in combined or in conjunction with that's not the right word in combination with the stressful situation, the beyond stressful situation, could cause her to do something like that. I don't think she was right. I'm not saying it was justified. However, when she was alone in that closet and she was watching that video of them, she was feeling that connection that they all had that she never felt like she had and that was why she committed that murder in the first place, even though it is a horrible. That does not get her what she wants at all, but I felt bad for her Because she is a horrible that that does not get her what she wants at all right, but I felt bad for her because she is a child.
Speaker 3:I really did not care about her feelings once you kill somebody. You're not a child. I don't care about your freaking childhood there are so many people who have had bad childhoods. I don't care if you're in a stressful situation. That gives you no right to kill somebody for no reason. Um yeah, no, like if it's self-defense I mean yeah, of course what you got to do to survive, but there was literally no reason.
Speaker 1:She had, she had a reason.
Speaker 3:It's not a good reason and calculated and she was like that from the beginning she had a reason.
Speaker 1:It wasn't a good reason, but she had a reason. Well, yeah, a reason doesn't it was a reason it wasn't a good one but she had a good reason and it's not like she just decided I'm gonna kill him because why not still?
Speaker 3:cold calculated.
Speaker 1:She knew what she was doing I agree, I feel bad for her. I saw her, I don't know. I do think ultimately, I get your perspective.
Speaker 1:I get your perspective, but like, I, where I felt for her was. I could see like she wanted to open the door and show them that she was there and offer them all that food, because she heard that they were hungry and that they were thirsty and she was going to help them. But then they started talking about. They're like, yeah, fuck that bitch, because you know she's over here killing people. That's crazy. And then, uh, and then she was like never mind and didn't open the door. Um, and then at night she collected all that food, she started tweaking a bit and then she was like you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make my way to the roof and give them all this food that I collected. It's the least that I could do.
Speaker 2:And then she was unalived by the bully which was, which was kind of a, shall we say, provoked by the teacher, who said well, she was like remembering what the teacher had said, was she standing in the classroom looking out the door? And she saw the teacher at the window again saying help them in any way, do something to help them. She was like I'm going to bring them food. She was remembering their conversations. God, I'm so hungry listening to the video.
Speaker 1:She was trying to make amends. Now ultimately, she sucks. Yeah, she's an awful character and she made me hate her, and the actress did a very good job. The actress did a very good job of looking so dumb when she was watching miss park outside. That the True. Do you see her face? Yes, oh my God. Yes, but that isolation. I don't know if I would survive alone.
Speaker 2:TJ's doing. Okay, I don't like people generally.
Speaker 1:But I don't think, unless you're that firefighter dude who has intense motivation to keep going, I don't think you can really survive this alone just because, like, the more people the better, like all these situations that they, that the kids, went through, they would have never survived if they were by themselves. Okay I'm so not long term because, like chong san, was able to to be alone for quite a while in the library let's, let's save that, because there's no such thing as long term yet.
Speaker 2:That's true, that's true. We've only been a couple of days.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean long term in this situation. I mean like more than a few hours, oh interesting, because like I don't think anybody alone has survived, yeah right, no, I mean like closest was not young, well, the firefighter well, there's also the guy, you're contradistinguishing the between the uh, yeah, I'm saying and the children he has intense motivation as well to stay alive and get to his daughter, and he and he had military and he has training yeah yeah, so I think that was also the teacher locked in the room, um, you know, the room where the the fish were yeah, he died, he lasted.
Speaker 3:I guess he lasted a little bit, that's just, he lasted a little bit yeah there were super zombies like who's gonna think that there is a like zombie that can, that has like the cognitive ability to just like open a door oh yeah, I fully agree, but but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like this situation is so bad I don't think you can survive alone. I think that everybody who was alone was shown dying. You know, this is just not the type of situation that I think you survive by yourself. Even the bully like because I don't, oh yeah, even the one the car Is that the one you're talking about?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep. I don't think he survived, oh, he did survive.
Speaker 1:He did survive, you're right, hmm.
Speaker 3:I think, yeah, maybe you'll be the guy on the roof. I was angry at that guy.
Speaker 1:But I'll tell you what. If that guy why lie? Why not just say them but let's go if I'm on that roof and I get rescued and I see him in the fucking camp, knowing that I'm beating the fuck out of him. He ain't surviving, he's dying. Yeah, but they didn't even know it was him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, that's true yeah, they didn't see him okay, so, uh, we'll quickly move on.
Speaker 2:Um, I want to talk about some of the moral dilemmas that are brought up in this. We have a few things, okay, there's a few things you guys can bring up.
Speaker 2:The moral dilemmas that we have are the things like the firemen breaking out of the quarantine camp and I mean essentially causing a ruckus right, you have the detective who I personally think did the right thing of saving the kid, the baby right, then rescuing a kid, then rescuing the. Well, I guess he rescued the streamer first and then rescued everybody else, and doing all of that in what is like the most hostile environment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the cops are badass I understood the idiot who kept telling him just leave. Like yeah, wouldn't it be better for us to save ourselves?
Speaker 1:and then send help back is like bs, but okay yeah, and he was such a coward there's no other way for me to word it. The cop had the right mentality. So, the streamer truth be told, I would have left because there's no room on the bike.
Speaker 2:You have a baby and a child with you, and that's why I don't think zombies would ever be a real threat I agree because whoa, I'll get my kukuri wait, I think he's saying something.
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Speaker 2:All right, so onto, uh, another moral dilemma that I had in this whole entire series is the government. Okay, I have big issues with the government. I want to bring up something that you and I talked about, which was the government cutting off all communication inside of Hoisan and meanwhile, you know, everybody else outside of hoisan is still broadcasting fake news it makes negative sense it really doesn't.
Speaker 2:I don't think the government ever makes sense right, but the moral dilemma, I think, comes when everybody who is trying to escape and they're going to the neighboring cities and the neighboring cities don't want them can I really quick?
Speaker 1:So I generally agree that the government never makes any sense, that the government does everything they shouldn't. Essentially, I heard someone say something recently that makes a lot of sense to me, and they said everybody likes to say the government is horribly inefficient. Right, but I don't think that's true. This is his words and I kind of agree. I don't think that's true. The government is probably the most efficient organization in the world. The problem is, we're assuming that their goal is their stated goal, because they're really good at making themselves rich. They're incredibly efficient in that manner. They're not efficient in helping the populace like they're supposed to.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So the whole cutting off communication within Hoi San just makes negative sense to me. It doesn't benefit the government in any way. Because they were talking about in the board meeting. They were saying that uh, all the fake news is happening from outside of hoisan. All the fake it's. Uh, people keep saying that it's spread to seoul or that they're, they're.
Speaker 3:I forget all the rumors but all these crazy rumors causing more panic exactly why cutting them off because none of the real shit's coming out, so everybody's making up stuff exactly. So the board was saying like should we censor the media?
Speaker 1:and that one guy was saying no, we, just because we've enacted martial law does not mean we should censor the media. The media is owned by the people. But then, like two scenes later, the guys up there like we're gonna censor everything within hoisan. Negative sense doesn't make any sense at all. It doesn't help government, it doesn't help the people within Hoisan, it doesn't stop the spread of fake news. It does nothing. It's so weird.
Speaker 3:It just makes it harder for them to fucking reach out.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's like zombies aren't using the internet. That's a good one. Zombies aren't using the internet.
Speaker 1:So it's like I don't know. To me it kind of seems like a writing flub, but the show's so good it kind of seems like plot weapon like they're trying to to push it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're. I think they're just trying to make it as, like you know, difficult as possible for the characters, because that's kind of if they could reach out and, like you know, call somebody and like reach the government, then they would have came and picked them up way but, they didn't know that they were. You know, they didn't know that they were there well, what I would say in response what I would say in response is the government.
Speaker 2:The government is not good, it's not efficient at anything. All of the people getting rich see, it's not the government quote-unquote getting rich, it's not the tax coffers getting rich, it's the individual politicians working with private sector businesses getting rich but they make up the government and they use the government to do that well they're not only using it to get rich it's the companies using the government which is so who's really the? More efficient ones? Is it the government or is it the corporations who use the government?
Speaker 1:well, I suppose. So I, I guess it. I I guess it's more of a semantic, but either way, what the government is doing is efficient, if you consider that what they say their goal is might not be their goal.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's where I say that they are absolutely inefficient for the fact that they do not do what their taxonomical purpose is.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree, by our standards they're incredibly inefficient, right, but to their standards, I think. They think they're very efficient because they're getting rich like. So the example that they brought up and this was andrew schultz on his podcast um, the example that they brought up was obamacare, and they said that and now I don't 100 know how true this is, but they said when obamacare came out, the insurance companies fucking skyrocketed. They got super fucking rich off of it, using government to put money where they want the money to go right. So incredibly efficient if that's your goal, but obviously to the americans, very inefficient which is the, the, the objective statement being the objective purpose is not being met, which means they're inefficient, so it's massively inefficient.
Speaker 2:The fact that they are benefiting a small subsect isn't efficient. All it really means is they're corrupt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess their version of efficient is it's just corrupt, that's it so. But we're assuming that the Korean government is like the American government. Are we willing to say that all governments are the same?
Speaker 2:Well, okay, what? What I'll say is in this universe, let's pretend that this government, the South Korean government, is actually out for the betterment of the people and they are trying to do what's best, but they are limited by actually adhering to the rights of the people. If I'm that government, I can actually understand why they would put a restriction on Hoisan. Not that it makes sense, not that it's good, not that it's a what is the word? What is the word? It's not um, it's not expedient to block out all of the communication from within hoi san that you, you now can't get any information in or out of. I don't think that's a good idea. However, you're trying to do whatever you can and you're trying to say words to your people to tell them we're doing something.
Speaker 2:I guess I can understand blocking the information out, and the only reason I can justify that would be that streamer who broke in, who then is streaming out. I'm going to uncover the real truth of Hoi San. Right, it might have been well-intended, but it could have led to a lot more problems. Now, I still don't think that justifies the action, but I'm trying to give the government all of the benefit of the doubt in saying we're not going to restrict the communication in areas that we have not declared martial law, but in the area that we have now we are. As, as I brought up before, the government can only ever be reactionary. If it is truly concerned about the rights of the people, you're reactionary, then the only thing you can do is block off the communication in hoisan. You can't block it off in seoul or in uh other parts of korea where there's no problem yeah, well, it's like they're really trying to hide like any fuck-ups they might have.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, I guess you know, hey, this helicopter just left without me. There's like freaking 12 people with me. Well, you know what's happening government and that gets out everybody's gonna be pissed at the government so like they're hiding fuck-ups whether they're intentional or unintentional fuck-ups. That's what they're doing I get it.
Speaker 2:So with that, I do a little segue here to something that I'll call external threats. The external threats are this exact thing. The government would have been an external threat, right, but what other external threats are there? Of course you have. If we're talking about we're the group of kids, right? You have these new should we say mutated I don't know if that's the right word, but these new Halfbees Halfbees, that's what they call them. We have these new halfbees.
Speaker 1:Apparently they also call them hambies, which I think sounds way dumber.
Speaker 3:Hambies is that's a good band name, right?
Speaker 1:there.
Speaker 2:I like halfbees.
Speaker 1:See, it's the problem that it says ham so directly Hambies, that just doesn't vibe. See, it's the problem that it says ham so directly Ham bees, that just doesn't vibe with me.
Speaker 3:Well, it's Zombees.
Speaker 1:No, I get that, but that's like when you combine couples' names together to make a name, there's always a good one and a bad one. Yeah, they're not both winners. Usually, ham bees is not a winner to me.
Speaker 2:No, I get it. So you have the half bees, you have the government. Could you think of any other external threats that these kids were facing?
Speaker 3:Food Did we ever see them eat?
Speaker 1:No, they were getting hungry, then they brought it up.
Speaker 3:The only person who was eating was chick, locked in the closet, and the one half bee who walked up and ate some fish crunching on it.
Speaker 1:Did she throw up? Because the fish? Why did she throw up a?
Speaker 2:person.
Speaker 3:I think well, but she's still like cognitively there. Would you not like be horrified with yourself if?
Speaker 1:no, she did not seem like that type of person.
Speaker 3:To be honest, maybe he just tasted bad maybe, well, I'm thinking well.
Speaker 1:So what I'm wondering is maybe she threw up because she ate something that wasn't human. The fish yeah, the fish, or um half bees can't actually eat zombie or eat people, they can only infect no, that dude, could he ate?
Speaker 2:that he ate. Uh, that bully ate. Um, what was the? What was that punk girl's name?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, no young no, yeah, no he, yeah, he gobbled. Yeah, no, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he didn't throw up, so I think it was. I don't, I think it's just you know guilt, by the way I think it was guilt, or the fact that I like the. You know, maybe she ate something that wasn't human she can only eat.
Speaker 1:I think it's because she ate the fish, because she specifically ate the fish. And then we haven't seen anybody.
Speaker 2:We haven't seen any other uh, zombie eating anything else besides a person so I gotta say what one of the things that um just annoyed the hell out of me with this, this set of of uh episodes, was when the bully ate her. The fact that I kept having to hear him chew and slurp and smack his lips annoyed the hell out of me. That was just that. That's just a personal pet peeve.
Speaker 3:I can't stand, yeah listening to or watching or whatever where you can't hear mouth sounds. It'll irk you.
Speaker 1:I mean it's not that bad but I think you're like me, Like I hate ASMR.
Speaker 3:I can't stand that. I can't stand it. I love ASMR. I don't like the mouth sound ones Like that's not what? Oh, I can't. I be watching dudes get haircuts, like you ever just like listen to scissors sounds Like that's very calming. You know, I could see that.
Speaker 1:Like a buzz. Or like scissors cutting I could see that, but yeah, the mouth sounds ASMR. That stuff I cannot do. Or like the food chewing that was my thing in the 2000s.
Speaker 2:It's so gross. In the 2000s, carl's Jr had this big push of showing they were beautiful women. No, no doubt about it, eating these giant burgers Right.
Speaker 1:I feel like I remember that I couldn't stand it.
Speaker 2:Nothing more unappetizing than watching other people just scarf food. Now, I'm not trying to suggest that I eat proper in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1:I'm an animal no, but you don't stare at other people eat like and and I don't want anybody looking at me when I eat- I feel the same way, like, hey, like when you're at the dinner table and you're talking, you're looking at the eyes. Yeah, you're not watching people eat, can't stand it, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm the same way and if you're, if you have manners, if you didn't grow up in the freaking forest, you're not talking with the full mouth. Right Like you may be like right after you, like swallowed a little bit.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I don't chew. I don't chew in full. I don't talk with a full mouth.
Speaker 1:If I have food in my mouth. I'll like block my mouth so you can't see oh.
Speaker 3:Matty does that.
Speaker 1:If my mouth is like full full, I'm not going to try to talk through the food, but if I have like just a little bit in my cheeks, I'll just cover my mouth while I finish my sentence really quick. And you'll also notice if you ever come down to, uh, our neck of the woods, tj.
Speaker 2:We have an absolute woods. We have an absolute talent. I do where everybody in our family will start talking to you. The second you put food in your mouth for real it is brutal okay, so now let me move on uh final, final uh category here final jeopardy I'm gonna go to the themes of hope versus despair, so all the way through this.
Speaker 1:What's that? What onjo brought up?
Speaker 2:well, okay, now I, because I I want to kind of, uh, I want to oh wait, no, that was namra namra yeah she brought that up what I kind of want to uh center on is the um is the final.
Speaker 2:Let's go to episode eight, which you guys are a little rusty on, but we actually, we watched it, we watched it but at the end there they were talking about how, if the government was going to come save them, they would have already that. Yeah, um, you know they don't care that nobody is there. We already knew this because of their recordings. You know how that one girl really felt.
Speaker 1:Oh, she annoys me, jamin, she annoys me Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, she said, my parents came back, but they died. So if you find this, punish everybody involved, punish them all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know she annoyed me for more reasons than that. Maybe I was just annoyed at her for everything she said beforehand. I get it. She saw her parents were dead. She felt like she had nothing else to live for. I understand that. But gosh, she just became a miserable person like to everybody it like so. Just she started becoming like the new nayan and I I started to really dislike her so what other themes of hopelessness do you think you witnessed in this?
Speaker 3:I think.
Speaker 2:I think we saw a few things um you can expound on. They were getting hungry. They had already discussed the fact that they were, uh, two without water.
Speaker 3:The door being locked.
Speaker 2:The door being locked. That's rough. That was a good one. Oh, that's really rough, Like they had.
Speaker 3:you know they got out, they had the whole plan. I'm not going to say without a hitch, but their plan worked. No one died With that blockade. Nobody died, you know.
Speaker 1:Which does something crazy.
Speaker 3:There were no zombies there when they got there. That would be perfect to get to the roof, but it was locked.
Speaker 1:That was some insane structural engineering from these high school kids.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that blockade they made, that was insane. There's an American schools joke here somewhere.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm sorry, I don't think real Korean students are building a blockade that sturdy, to hold that many zombies who don't feel pain, who are just pushing? No, you can tie stuff together. That was structurally sound, that was that's insane.
Speaker 3:Mostly they were still holding on to it. It wasn't like perfect but it was good enough. The whole other half of the room was full of zombies. Exactly, they were still holding on to it. It wasn't like perfect, but it was good enough to. There was. The whole other half of the room was full of zombies, so exactly.
Speaker 1:Ain't no high school students anywhere in the world? I'm sorry. No high school students are building a blockade. That sturdy that can hold that much weight there's.
Speaker 3:That was incredible also thinking of a trap that they could have made if they took some piano wire from the piano, strung it up in front of the door, the zombies would run through the door, clothesline like wire through the neck type thing. I think that would have bought them some time too.
Speaker 1:That could be cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I thought of that. I was like use everything at your disposal. There's a piano right there. Kill that zombie.
Speaker 1:It's just there making noise? What would you use to attach the wire to the doorframe?
Speaker 2:Piano wire.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm sure there's something somewhere. What would you use to attach the piano string? I can find a stud. I can get a piece of metal. There's gonna be nails around.
Speaker 2:There's gonna be. Yeah, you're gonna find, especially with all the shit they destroyed, like everything that they made yeah, barricade screws from the desk those things apart. Yeah, you have, you have nails, you have screws, you have and you can attach the— but it's piano wire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so are you tying it around the nail?
Speaker 2:What I would do is probably tie it on one end around a nail that's already secured and then on the other side I would have it on some form of leverage like a chair leg, something that won't cut my hand off right, so I tie it to that in such a way that I can pry. I could pry it off and pull it tight. So I would want to secure that the leg against the door and, in a leverage fashion, pull it so that it gets taut across the door this is why y'all need me in the zombie apocalypse, because nobody else is gonna think of that.
Speaker 1:You do come up with cool traps like the zombie heads hanging in the. I'm straight up home alone up in here bro yeah, you come up with good traps and they're so clumsy and like fast, they're gonna run into it they're the zombies. I thought the gate would stop them. They knocked it down instantly.
Speaker 2:How much time do we have? They're already here. We should have bought that beautiful Los Angeles dream house in that safe neighborhood that Corinne showed us.
Speaker 1:I know it was so much more defensible and Corinne would have had us moved in before the apocalypse.
Speaker 2:Do you think it's too late to call her now? I'll try.
Speaker 1:No, no, we should have called Corinne sooner.
Speaker 2:Don't wait until it's too late. Call Corinne Salas today at 714-510-6443 and buy your Los Angeles Dreamhouse now. That's 714-510-6443. You can also find her on Instagram at nexthomebycorinne, or visit her website at corinnesalasnexthomegrandviewcom. That's c-o-r-i-n-n-e-s-a-l-a-s dot. Nexthomegrandviewcom.
Speaker 3:What were we talking about, oh?
Speaker 1:hopelessness and hope despair. Oh, we were talking about despair piano.
Speaker 3:I think the the singing on the roof was cute. I don't know if that gave them hope, but like I'm sure that gave them a sense of like togetherness, which incense gives you know?
Speaker 2:I think so dude, because I mean, what else does a bard do?
Speaker 3:I mean, what else does a bard do?
Speaker 1:jay sue's got a voice, bro, he was a bard man, yo, he was holding up that whole wall by himself. Yeah, he's a tank. Yeah, he did, the guy's talented. I. Okay, I don't know if this quite counts as despair, but the commander of the of the containment camp, or what would you call it, uh, quarantine zone, quarantine zone. Um, when he talked to the assembly woman, she told him uh, send a chopper to the high school. We have to try and save the kids. There's a firefighter going by himself. You gotta send somebody. And he walked away very like I'm not listening. But then he gets to the, to his office, and he's looking. And then he's talking to somebody below him, like somebody who reports directly to him, and he's saying send a chopper to to the high school. And there was more in that conversation. But my main point is he looked distraught that he hadn't thought of that and and I don't know if that quite counts as despair- also another, because he, you know, he said there's more of that, he all the subordinate, whatever he was like.
Speaker 3:Hey, so should we send somebody to? You know the part of town that your mom lives in you know? And he said no and he's like nah, you know, when we get the call to do it, we'll do it. And like you could see the look on his face, Like you know, does he do his job or does he save his mom type thing. You know that's despair.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what. I think it wasn't even saving his job. I think it was him realizing like I left those kids, I haven't sent anybody for the next generation Like that's I I. To me it seemed like he was none in the yeah. To me it seems like he was very distraught with himself that he did not think about that I'll tell you what I liked was when the assembly woman broke it down.
Speaker 2:Children represent hope, the adults represent wisdom did she break that down?
Speaker 1:I think that was also Namra or one of the students in the broadcasting room.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:I think they said that and they said which one do you think our country is it?
Speaker 2:was Prez. It was Prez. And the fact that she broke it down in such a way that because I think they cut to the assembly woman right after she had referenced this and then, of course, their whole thing was getting back to the school and the the um staff of the assembly woman was stopping the firefighter from going. He was gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna get my daughter, and everybody wanted to stop him and that was the conversation. Do we send so? And so his mother lives right over there. Do I send him? You know, it's like no, you don't send him because he's probably not going to make it. I'm going to make it, uh, but the idea behind children represent hope. The adults represent wisdom.
Speaker 3:You can't let all hope extinguish and you can't let all wisdom die yes, yeah, and like with the. You know them being students still, in this horrible situation, they're still like finding time to like be kids still, you know, like confessing their love to you know their crush or whatever. Oh man, so cute stuff like that is like that's, that's the hope part of completely agree the next generation completely agree.
Speaker 2:so with that, all of uh you survivors, thank you for tuning in. I want to tell you about our uh social media. You can find us on tiktok, instagram and facebook by searching will you survive the podcast? Uh, something I never mentioned, but it does exist out there. So go and find us on YouTube. You can search will you survive the podcast? Or search at the boys right At the at symbol, the boys at WIS. Go check us out on YouTube.
Speaker 2:We don't have a whole lot of action going on over there, but we got a bunch of short clips and stuff like that. So we uh hopefully we'll get full episodes up at YouTube soon. But we also have our email that we would love to hear from you and I do have something to read from you, but let me give a read to you. We do have our email, which is the boys at the boys at will you survive the podcastcom that th e b o y s at? Will you survive the podcastcom? And on Spotify we got a comment and this is from Sutton Haviland. He says hey guys, great podcast, started listening this summer and really enjoy it. If it's not too hard, talk more about zombie fighting weapons. Thank you, keep up the good work. So we could do that. I think we should. Uh, we should potentially come up with some zombie fighting weapons and uh, no, I just did piano wire.
Speaker 3:Well, you did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're talking like creating our own. I think so, that's interesting.
Speaker 3:I think any lawn tool can be turned into a survival weapon. They got, like you know, chainsaws, basically chainsaws on a stick used to cut branches. That'd be perfect for a freaking zombie apocalypse. Long range.
Speaker 1:Yeah, keep away from me.
Speaker 2:Josh says you mean the Russian necktie? And Sam says throw a stapler at their head.
Speaker 1:That'll do it. I agree. I don't know about any yard tool, because when you said that, I immediately started thinking about little pruning shears. I could use that. I mean, I think you could, I don't think you you definitely could Break the handles off.
Speaker 3:There's already a screw going through it. Ninja throwing star.
Speaker 1:You're right. You're right. You could definitely modify them, batarang. What about a trowel? Sharpen it, I mean, I suppose. So I think there's better ones, like maybe, hedge clippers, or like the long or the chainsaw on a stick.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that what we're going with? What's it called? Which?
Speaker 3:one. It's a chainsaw on a stick, I don't know. It's basically a long chainsaw on a stick.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a hedge trimmer yeah. It's a hedge trimmer.
Speaker 1:Okay, chainsaw on a stick, but lawnmower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, joseph says use bush trimmers. That's essentially what you're talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I will go to Home Depot and make one. We'll put it on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Okay, here's something. Okay, because I just watched. Do you guys like good God, this is so hard to say Good, bad movies.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like Sharknado, stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Very similar.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, so this was the room the room, I didn't watch that I've never seen that. You never seen the room tommy wazell no so okay here's.
Speaker 2:Here's one that I just really freaking enjoyed. It's based off of the video game dead rising oh, I think it was I think it was called end game dead rising end game. It was absolutely silly. Good story, not good acting.
Speaker 1:That game is kind of the same way actually.
Speaker 2:Well it's I think it was fun it's a very japanese game I did, but set in america but you do make a good point because that's one of the very. Yeah, I watched it on tubi. That's exactly where I watched it. Good job, sam. Uh. I noticed that, uh, when I played that game, I didn't actually sit and listen to the cut scenes no, because it's just about the killing of the zombies.
Speaker 1:It's just awful yeah, you just step outside with a shopping cart that has, like fucking, chainsaws attached to the side but I wanted to point out through a bunch of zombies.
Speaker 2:I wanted to point out. Some of the weapons they made was like the uh, the bolts through the, the baseball bat, uh, with a nail put at the tip of it, so it's like a spear. You had, um, they made like a bladed. I mean, it's like a huge axe but with what looked like, um, a saw blade on the end of it, so it was like 360.
Speaker 3:You could hit the zombie from anywhere you get a baseball bat, you cut a slit in it exactly blade stick it in there and bolt through it yeah, and uh, so it was.
Speaker 2:It was pretty interesting some of the weapons they came up with and, of course, one of the guys had a uh, a nail gun, sam, is that where you got the nail gun idea?
Speaker 3:because that was, yeah, that was one nail guns are complicated because you gotta like they all have like a safety on them, like you have to have it pressed up against something for it to work. But if you press the safety back and then do it, it'll shoot the nails and I did that when I was working construction and it was fucking. It's funny, um so with.
Speaker 2:Uh, all of that, I think we're, I think we're about done here. So thank you all for tuning in. Remember that we broadcast all of our podcast episodes every Friday at 7 am. If you're listening to us on Spotify, you can also find us on Apple Podcasts, tunein Amazon Music, iheartradio, goodpods or anywhere that you get podcasts. We're everywhere. Go find us and make sure you email us your ideas, your criticism. Help us out. We want to make this a real running podcast so we could use your help. Tell us where we can get better. Thank you all for listening all the time and we always appreciate you, survivors. Oh, by the way, you can also comment on Spotify. That was one of the comments that I read. You can also leave us a review on apple podcasts and so on and so forth.
Speaker 3:So with that, thank you all we will be uh signing off now. Good luck editing this tj and um until next time stay alive and uh, you know, confess your love before you die. Happy birthday, alex. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Happy birthday, Alex.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
