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Will You Survive "Cell": Technology Gone Rogue and Strategic Survival Tips

September 06, 2024 Will You Survive... The Podcast

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Ever pondered how you’d fare in an apocalypse triggered by rogue cell phone signals? Tune in to our latest episode of "Will You Survive. The Podcast," where we dive headfirst into the chaotic world of the 2016 movie "Cell" starring John Cusack and Samuel L. Jackson. Kicking off we explore the film’s eerie scenario and use it as a launchpad for practical survival strategies. From flipping through memories of early 2000s technology to debating the necessity of destroying compromised devices, Eric and TJ share invaluable tips for ensuring your gadgets won’t turn against you.

Ever felt like smartphones are taking over our lives? We discuss the gripping reality of society's tech addiction and compare it to older generations' love for nature and solitude. The episode takes a deeper dive into how constant connectivity affects political transparency and trust in authority figures. We also touch on the heavy burden of leadership in crisis times, drawing parallels between historical and modern figures. For those prepping for doomsday, we underline the necessity of building alliances to pool various skills and enhance security, proving that sometimes, it's better to face the end of the world together.

Imagine surviving an apocalypse alone—sounds daunting, right? Our conversation highlights the critical role of community and teamwork in managing vital tasks like farming, defense, and healthcare. Personal anecdotes bring these points to life, showing the vulnerability of solo survivalists. We also don't shy away from the lighter side of survival, debating whether to shelter on a houseboat or integrate into a larger group. Wrapping up with practical insights and a hearty farewell, we remind you to stay positive, appreciate the value of community, and keep those survival instincts sharp.

Speaker 1:

Hello survivors and welcome back to another episode of Will you Survive.

Speaker 2:

The Podcast.

Speaker 1:

Today I am your host I'm Alex and I'm joined by my co-hosts I'm Eric.

Speaker 2:

And I am TJ.

Speaker 3:

Can I derail this right away? How are you going to derail it? When people ask me my name, I'm a very indecisive person, and it's not that I'm trying to lie, it's that I genuinely, for a brief second, forget my name and I usually go um and then I'll go. I'm Eric, and multiple times I've had people go oh nice to meet you, merrick.

Speaker 1:

I'm Eric.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, when I'm trying to say I'm Eric, or I'm Eric all the time I've gotten. Oh, nice to meet you, merrick. And I don't have it in me to correct them.

Speaker 2:

Well, anyways, that's why I go with.

Speaker 1:

TJ. Today we're going to be talking about the movie Cell. This one comes from the year 2016, starring John Cusack and Samuel L Jackson. It was. I thought it was pretty enjoyable. There was some goofiness to it, but I read a little deep into the fandom and it made it sound so much cooler reading the fandom.

Speaker 3:

What year is this supposed to take place? Ooh, that's a good question.

Speaker 2:

I seen a Samsung Galaxy S3.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is a 2016 movie. This looked like an early 2000s movie.

Speaker 1:

The whole vibe was early 2000s. There were flip phones weren't there.

Speaker 3:

He used a pay phone.

Speaker 2:

That's right he did. I haven't seen a pay phone in freaking years. I lost juice.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, who says that I haven't seen a pay phone in freaking years? I lost juice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, who says that this is like such an early 2000s movie. Charger for his phone was like connected to the block. Do you remember when chargers were connected, like all one thing like that?

Speaker 1:

I remember, for forever. I remember some old stuff. So for those of you who by some chance haven't seen this, let me do a quick little storyline. When a strange signal pulsates through all cell phone networks worldwide, it starts a murderous epidemic of epic proportions. When users become bloodthirsty creatures and a group of people in New England are among the survivors. To deal with the ensuing chaos after Pretty good, I think we'll start off right away this format. What we're going to do is I will read the question that I have for you guys, and you're both free to answer. We'll keep it a little organized, so I'll switch back and forth. We'll start off with Eric first and then TJ. You give me your answer and we'll give you award points accordingly.

Speaker 3:

TJ, I just want you to know right off the bat I was such a good student and this was nothing but homework that Alex gave us. You're fucked.

Speaker 2:

I literally just held up my notebook.

Speaker 3:

You are absolutely cooked, my man. You're done, I love this.

Speaker 1:

I love the confidence from both of you.

Speaker 3:

I don't even remember the first question.

Speaker 1:

I think it's going to be a good episode first question that comment right there is avoid technology.

Speaker 2:

The signal that turns people into killers is broadcast through cell phones. You need to avoid using cell phones or other technology that may transmit the signal. What measures would you take in an unknown apocalyptic scenario where technology may be compromised?

Speaker 1:

So the purpose of this question is we're going to bring this not only from the movie Cell, which you can answer in that, but this would apply to any apocalyptic scenario. So what measures would you take in any unknown apocalyptic scenario where technology may be compromised?

Speaker 3:

so, judging off of his experience, our main character, his name being um god, I have it right here mr john, yeah, john cusack, uh clay clay.

Speaker 3:

So based off of clay's experience, he caught on pretty quickly that it was the cell phones. Honestly, I think they played with that way too much. Um, him and samuel jackson's character with the like okay, that when they first walk into the apartment and the phone, he like picks up the phone and like holds it kind of up to his ear. He like he tests it way too much, for when you saw what it did, that the signal just made you go crazy right away. He tested it way too much. Um, I think get a pair of ear earplugs, to be honest, um, something to try and block out the sound. Uh, not completely, but at least so that like I'd worry about a speakerphone well, but what I mean is, um, bring this outside of just this movie.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, in this movie. I? I agree with that answer. If you caught on that fast, you would think that you would take measures that fast.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right, because he caught on in the airport, kind of like in bird box. How they blinded themselves like they found out.

Speaker 1:

They found out real quick and they took measures real quick. I get what you're saying. Now let's take it outside of that specific scenario and any apocalyptic scenario where technology is compromised, it's not just, it's not just the fact that it's um, let's not necessarily say it's deadly to you, but it's dangerous to use. Enemies are tracking it. Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, enemies are tracking it. Uh, cell phones have gone down because a nuclear blast has occurred. You have what are some other major earthquake and cell phones are disrupted. What measures do you take in that scenario to communicate without relying on that technology?

Speaker 3:

I mean truth be told, you have to go to things like radios, like shortwave radios or like two-way walkie-talkies, things that aren't so connected to the internet, and then anything else. Unless you know computers really well enough to protect yourself, you might as well just destroy them. Why keep it around? If it's that compromised that your life is in danger by using it, get rid of it. You don't need your phone anymore. You don't need your computer anymore. Get rid of it. Yep, why you don't need your phone anymore.

Speaker 1:

You don't need your computer anymore. Get rid of it, okay, dj. What do you do in any apocalyptic scenario?

Speaker 2:

I think, yeah, radios was a good idea. I was thinking about that. I was also thinking about destroying, you know, all the you know. If it's of harm to you, why not get rid of it? Um, I was also thinking of distancing myself from it. Right here I wrote to the boonies. I go is the answer to the question. Um, I'm going away, I'm out of there, I'm going. I got, you can go to our pinterest, get that bug out bag baby. I'm gone. I'm like getting out boonies, distancing myself from all technology, making some sort of you know fort chilling yeah, I mean honestly.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, becoming a recluse, just running off into a forest somewhere, is probably your best bet.

Speaker 2:

Trying to just go off the grid freaking which is from last of us I'm gonna.

Speaker 1:

This is really consistent with you guys, all of us, all three of us, because we've all said we've all said you're right, that's where I said you're right, that's where I'm going.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to the houseboat, the last episode we just today we just released that video.

Speaker 1:

Why a houseboat is the answer? Because it's just the best. We've also talked about going to islands. We've talked about going to the mountains. So all of these things, you guys are consistent in your answer. I give credit for that. Okay, thank you. So the second question stay mobile. The survivors in cell are constantly on the move to avoid large groups of phoners, people affected by the signal. Staying mobile reduces your chances of being overwhelmed. How would staying mobile help keep you safe and what kind of planning would you need to make to stay safe while mobile in any apocalyptic scenario? You don't have to stay within the movie to answer the questions.

Speaker 3:

You want to start this one, TJ.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, please Alternate.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I want to say stay mobile until you're in a place of security. You don't want to keep on moving the whole time, cause that offers up like new risks. You know everything that you're walking into is a question. You don't know nothing about anything. You know hey, there's, I got to go to that building over there. Oh wait, there could be things in there, right, it's all unknown.

Speaker 3:

That's actually something they mentioned. Um, nevermind, I completely lost my train of thought. Go on, I had something and for that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, this is going to be my new drinking game. Every time Eric loses his train of thought, I have to take a drink. You're going to be trashed.

Speaker 2:

Might as well, just go grab the bottle.

Speaker 1:

That's why I filled up the glass so much.

Speaker 2:

Ways to like I'm going to stay within the movie Ways to stay safe and like mobile in this universe is one a quiet vehicle. Don't go driving around on a fucking motorcycle.

Speaker 3:

What were they?

Speaker 2:

thinking the loudest possible vehicle and just be surprised when, like you, get messed up, you get overrun yeah.

Speaker 3:

He was zooming too. He went like halfway down the street before he turned around and he got him and his girl killed. Right, if you're going to cycle, fucking bicycle.

Speaker 2:

Do that, that's quiet Tesla. I think, yeah, a Tesla would be kind of good, but then again it's all. You know, it's more technology than car, so I'd be kind of scared to. That's true, quiet vehicles won or on foot. On foot's always good.

Speaker 1:

This movie was also in fucking 2003,. Apparently Be aware of your surroundings.

Speaker 2:

Stay away from cities, aware of your surroundings, stay away from cities and always have a go bag. Should have everything you need in it. That's why, if you have it, it's easier to stay mobile. You don't got to go like searching through stuff and hold up places. If you don't, stay mobile is like the best thing to do.

Speaker 3:

So I get that they were staying mobile because they were in a bad spot. They were in. It looked like they were kind of in the outskirts of a city and I think you need to try to get away from that. But they did break a rule that we kind of hold firmly, which is to hunker down Especially in that first apartment they were in. None of the phoners knew where they were. There was that close call where that girl was just staring out the window and almost got got seen.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, stay mobile until you get it to a place of like security.

Speaker 3:

Well, I mean, they were there right away, yeah, the only reason. The only reason they were mobile was because he wanted to go find his son.

Speaker 2:

Right, that was the only reason they were mobile up till the point that they got to the apartment and then they were like let's keep going, that doesn't make any sense, right?

Speaker 3:

right yeah, I don't think. I don't think staying mobile in this movie is a good idea at all, because I think of it the same way I think of a zombie apocalypse. You're not, you don't want to be on the streets? Yeah, going unless you have a reason, like you're trying to get somewhere in particular, which he was, but I don't know he was in a place of security.

Speaker 2:

He it's his apartment building. He knows the layout, he knows like he has all his stuff in his house. You know, he, what's better than that? You can lock that place down. And now you know it's not like they'll know where you are. Just destroy all your phones and stuff. They're not going to come get.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think you just need better If you are going to be mobile. They needed better weapons than what they had A bat, a crowbar. But these are tough because these aren't just dumb zombies who are just trying to eat you.

Speaker 1:

These are. These aren't even zombies. These are people.

Speaker 2:

They're people with a hive mind. I think the count is infected Exactly.

Speaker 3:

It's not even like 28 Days Later where they're just brutally trying to mutilate you I mean these guys were, but these guys would use weapons. They would use bats or or what were some other things you saw, I see yeah, they were using weapons so they had all kinds of shit in this is way more advanced, which so it kind of leads me to one question do we think these things would eventually be able to drive?

Speaker 2:

I think if they were in a car when they went free-go.

Speaker 3:

What if they just went to run over? Yeah, what if they were just trying to run over a bunch of people?

Speaker 1:

I think they would, but they would all crash their cars instantly. It would be to cause as much chaos as possible.

Speaker 3:

So were these things also trying to unalive themselves? Because remember that girl in the airport smashing her head into the wall yeah like. That was very much like um. Do you guys remember the happening? Yeah it was kind of like that, but it was weird because I think that's the only one we saw that mutilated themselves it could be like the virus gets in you.

Speaker 2:

So once it gets in you it like tries to dumb you down a little bit.

Speaker 3:

But we never saw that happen with any of the others it was just her Inconsistent.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's true, but you know, four out of ten I don't.

Speaker 1:

I don't think it. I don't think it has to be consistent, if if I'm going to say, you know there's, there were a lot of, if I may, there were a lot of, if I may. There were a lot of political and social statements being made in this movie, a lot of which I think the majority of our survivors who listen would agree with. We've all seen an uptick in society far too reliant on the phones, right? One of the things that I think of is there's very few of us, I think. For me, when I would go to Sequoias and you don't have access to cell phone, your cell phone's dead, there's no signal up there. It's irrelevant to even try. So you're cut off and you're back to nature and you're walking around in the dirt and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

I love that and I've realized that a lot of people younger than me who would go up there would freak the F out Like they hated being away from their phones and they would go there for two days. Maybe, you know, one night, two days, three days, two nights, but the rest of us were there six days. You know six days, five nights, or seven days, some people, and it's a disconnect. Or seven days, some people and it's a disconnect and being disconnected feels good to a lot of people, to a lot of us older people. You know us boomers, or what did you call me? The silent generation.

Speaker 2:

You fucker.

Speaker 1:

And you know, because we grew up without cell phones or even the telephone. So it's good to get away, it's good to unplug, and I think a lot of people this is one of the things we've even talked about on the podcast is a major event. We talk EMP, a major event of earthquake, war, something that downs the grid. You know that the majority of people are going to go haywire because they don't have their phones, they don't have information. I think it's the equivalent of putting somebody in a room and turning off the light and leaving them in the dark. Your imagination makes it so much worse than it is and you, having access to the news and Twitter and reports of what other people are going through instantly, is gone.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean I have have said before I don't think humankind was ever intended to have this much access to the entire world at all times. I shouldn't be able to talk to someone in korea right now with no, with very little latency.

Speaker 2:

We're, you know, evolving as a species you know, eventually we're just gonna be fucking vr'd up. You know. Well, my point is species. You know, eventually we're just going to be fucking VR'd up, you know.

Speaker 3:

Well, my point is to say I don't think humans, I don't think we were ever built to have that much communication with each other. It's proven to be a lot.

Speaker 3:

No, I think we'll overcome it and I think we'll figure it out, but it has definitely posed a lot of problems, especially with people being addicted to their phones. I do think that's very much a thing where everybody's recording everything it there's benefits and there's pros and cons, because the pros are like everything is recorded. Think of like a really big political moment that happened recently with uh uh, trump's attempted assassination um, that was caught on so many different angles and it's exposed so much. So many lies from the secret service have been exposed by different camera angles of just people with their phones recording which you know and it's not just that incident, but it kind

Speaker 1:

of you know there's pros and cons. If we use it right, like in that scenario. Uh, because I'm one who I always say, never trust the government, right, I don't. I don't ever trust anybody who wants authority over me. You know, someone who wants to be in charge is either a nut or is a criminal. You know, I don't ever want to be responsible for another human being. I don't want to be responsible for your well-being. I can't take care of you better. I can't take care of your family better than you can, and I don't. I don't want to pretend to.

Speaker 1:

And these people in Washington DC, they love to pretend like they know what's better for you. And I don't care what party affiliation you're with, I'm speaking on both sides. We on the podcast have constantly said right wing, left wing, same bird. I'm not attacking anybody's political ideology. I'm attacking these politicians who've gotten rich, claiming that they're looking out for my best interest and my family's. I'm attacking these politicians who've gotten rich, claiming that they're looking out for my best interest and my family's. And I'm sorry, but if you don't know me, if you don't see the struggle that I go through, you can't possibly do what's best for my family.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I actually I was thinking about that this morning how people who generally want power probably shouldn't have power and it's usually the good leaders are usually the ones who didn't want it in the first place. I was thinking back on medieval kings and stuff like that and realizing that, yeah, they had the best situation out of everybody, compared to common folk or peasants who were in the street in literal feces, but at the same time they had a responsibility that I cannot imagine. Like I struggle sometimes with the responsibility I have as a manager of a dog daycare. I cannot imagine being a noble having to be responsible for thousands of human lives.

Speaker 1:

Form alliances. Now, this one, I really did. I liked this question because it's going to pose a conundrum to us all, because all of us know, and we are all aware, that people pose the real problem to an apocalypse right Humans In this case, they're all people, but the non-infected could be as much of a problem, or more, as the infected right. That's what we all agree all the time.

Speaker 3:

Yes, although in this movie it proved a little different it did so forming alliances.

Speaker 1:

The characters survive longer by forming alliances with other survivors. Working as a team provides security and different skill sets. So I want to ask you guys what are some ways that working as a team is more beneficial than staying alone?

Speaker 3:

Well, first things first. You can't do everything on your own. I mean, there's very few people who can. Can you elaborate?

Speaker 1:

detail. You can't do everything on your own.

Speaker 3:

Okay, there's people who can just go out into the forest and survive on their own. But if you're trying to rebuild civilization in any sort own, but if you're trying to rebuild civilization in any sort of capacity, if you're trying to create a survivor camp or anything like that, you can't do it on your own. You can't be the farmer and the person taking care of the animals and in charge of security and building walls and building houses and building you just can't. And getting water, you can't do everything. You have to have a group of people. That's why people humans, we're pack animals, we're herd animals, we have to be around people. That's why we live in cities and very few people live in rural areas by themselves and even then they usually live with a family who helps take care of the farm or whatever they do. Humans, we don't. We're social creatures.

Speaker 1:

We're not supposed to just be alone. As small of a community as it is, it still needs to be a community.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I do want to say I. I think this movie did illustrate the fact that, um so shortly after an apocalyptic event, I do think people's humanity is still with them. For the most part, I don't think humans become a problem for survivors until later when humanity has pretty much when, like the humanity and people has died. I think right away there are going to be some people who are going to take advantage of it, but I think the mass majority of people are still in shocked, trying to just stay alive mode, and I think they're much more willing to work with somebody, maybe hesitantly, but I do think the what was it? Like a bar that they were held up in. Those people were like we're just, we're going here, come with us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now so basically, you can't be everywhere at once. That's why teams are good. You cannot, you're not, you can't be everywhere at once. That's why teams are good. You can, you're not. You may not be a farmer, you may not be great at building things, you may not be good at you know a bunch of things, but you may be good at getting resources. So you can't do all of those things, so that's why you get people to do them for you Stuff like that, I have the winning answer what I.

Speaker 1:

It better be really good, because I was about to interrupt right now to say that tj got the point I have the winning answer go what if you get sick?

Speaker 3:

oh fuck, we talked about it. You need to have a team, because if you get sick, you're dead, so you need people who can take care of you while you're sick, and then you, that coochie. I don't think that's a solid argument, as a settlement.

Speaker 2:

I think it's a higher probability of coochie in the survival situations.

Speaker 1:

I'm giving you both the point he got a point for coochie no, no, because he listed everything else TJ almost listed. My entire answer verbatim. Well, because he just everything else TJ almost listed my entire answer verbatim.

Speaker 3:

Well, because he just said everything.

Speaker 1:

I didn't the answer. What are some ways that working as a team is more beneficial than staying alone In survival situations? Collaboration can improve your chances. Group up with others who can help with defense, resource gathering or strategic planning. You said defense and resource gathering, resource gathering or strategic planning. You said defense and resource gathering, the uh, strategic planning. Nobody said but when you, I didn't actually have this on the list. You're getting a point where tj had a point. You're getting a point because you listed something from our personal application that it was absolutely spot on.

Speaker 1:

When you're sick in a zombie Both of us, we were sick the same week. You had food poisoning, I had the flu and I said, oh my God, if I ever get the flu during the zombie apocalypse, I'm a goner. You said the same thing. One of our survivors had said hey, that's why you need a group. Like damn good point. Yeah, like the only thing I could think of doing in a zombie apocalypse. If I'm not in a fortified area, uh, the only thing I could do is break into a home, go into the attic space and hope I have enough water to survive the days that I'm sick yeah you know, you, you gotta be, you gotta be completely isolated.

Speaker 2:

I can just to get well him up in an attic like sick as fuck freezing cold, covering himself in insulation fiberglass too, sick to even be itchy. Keeps the house warm it's like I'd rather be itchy but I, I have a, I have a sleeping bag.

Speaker 1:

So yeah that's what I would be walking with all right so I like all of that. I'm not gonna lie getting a point I'll take the point.

Speaker 3:

I'm not complaining, your honor. What I will say, though, is that I did say that you can't do everything by yourself. You need people for to build walls, you did, and so like I feel like I mentioned a lot of that I he didn't even give you a point for coochie okay, I think there's a little bit of a point for coochie I. I look dj. Oh, he's not denying it. Oh, this is fucking rigged, I am married okay, okay, hear me out, hear me out and she listens to the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Okay here. So say something very flattering to my wife hearing you out you can.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

You can.

Speaker 2:

She got a whole instagram, I'm pretty sure some stuff and she does.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure she does.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, this one goes to tj and I like this question. Avoid large groups in movie. Large groups of phoners are especially dangerous. Avoiding them is crucial to survive In any post-apocalyptic scenario. What are some examples of threats that large groups of people bring and give cause to be avoided? In what specific scenario would you stay in place? You don't have to stay in the movie.

Speaker 2:

What are some examples of threats that large groups of people bring and give cause to be avoided?

Speaker 3:

Ooh ooh, me, ooh ooh ooh, eric, your beard is stupid. Stop it. This guy didn't have an answer. This guy didn't study. I studied, I did my homework.

Speaker 2:

I would like you to see, I have this whole thing fucking filled out.

Speaker 1:

He's thinking, suck my ass. He's thinking, suck my ass. He's thinking I would like to see if I, because I did these notes like two days ago.

Speaker 2:

I'd like to see if I have any more thoughts.

Speaker 3:

That was my bad. He can't read his handwriting.

Speaker 1:

Your Honor, I came back too late, I was still ready to go, but you know some people are like oh, I gotta sleep, Jeez.

Speaker 3:

I don't work this week.

Speaker 1:

I'm chilling the tj's like, oh, I have to get up at six o'clock in the morning. I'm like dude, it's only fucking 2 am. What's wrong with you guys? True?

Speaker 2:

large groups of people large groups of people bring a lot of uh, you know threats. If, if you're, you know, if you're not forming alliances, how are you going to defend yourself from a large group of people there's more people. They could do more damage come at you from all sides, that's that one.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't really think of anything for that In what specific scenario would you stay in place? I would say that if it's any sort of nuclear attack, I think staying in place isn't the best thing. I think you need to go as far away from the, you know, bomb zone as possible. Um, I think if it's like an emp, I think you need to already have your stuff stocked up. You got to always have extra food in your house for the shelter in place situations. I think an emp would be the situation for that. So you say EMP you bug in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if it's like a natural disaster, like, let's say, an earthquake, shelter in place, make sure you're in a really good spot where you're not going to get collapsed on by a building, because in that situation there's a lot more dangers than just the ground shaking. Shit explodes, you know. Depending on the size of the earthquake, craters will freaking. You know form and deep cracks in the earth. Um tornadoes stay in place. Um zombies. Don't stay mobile during that. You gotta be mobile up until the point of security then you have a great tip.

Speaker 2:

I have a great tip for tornadoes uh, don't drive into them yeah, you know, actually, if you do drive into a tornado, make sure you're filming, make sure you're filming. I want to see if cows actually get sucked up and do they moo as they go past you, that, that, that now, that's some research.

Speaker 1:

Cow, another cow I think that's some research Cow, another cow I think that's the same one.

Speaker 2:

In movies they always as they're going past. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Now, this is where our government, this is where our tax dollars should be going.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but I also need to know during a tornado, do you get transported to a magical realm? I?

Speaker 3:

did Asking for a friend. I'm sorry, Okay moving on.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it was a whole different kind of tornado uh what?

Speaker 3:

no, that was a great joke.

Speaker 2:

I think that was hilarious.

Speaker 3:

Good job host your honor, he doesn't get it, he's just sucking your ass. Uh, your honor, I have. I have answer. Okay for question.

Speaker 2:

So first of all, so what I was saying was no, I swear.

Speaker 3:

We all know the walking dead right Um my answer to we all know what the walking dead so basically my answer to avoid large groups really is are you idiot?

Speaker 2:

That's not even where I was going, because, as they're moving, they can knock down your defenses.

Speaker 1:

Hey, hey, hey, hey your honor.

Speaker 3:

I want to point out, this guy tried to steal my answer and wasn't even fucking close.

Speaker 1:

I would like to argue that it is hilarious to bug eric is it not?

Speaker 2:

is it not hilarious to bug him?

Speaker 3:

he just tried to steal my answer content. He wasn't even close.

Speaker 1:

Look, look, he wasn't even close I'm I'm trying to be unbiased here. Okay, let's let eric answer. Do we remember the governor? Go on eric in the walking dead in the walking absolutely I think that's probably one of the best villains.

Speaker 3:

I think that's a reason to avoid large groups, um, because when you say large groups, I'm not thinking of even in cell, I'm not thinking of the, the infected, I'm thinking of people. I think large groups of people are not always bad, but it is, I don't know. It's kind of concerning because there's a lot of power there and you got to really know, like, who's leading that power, who is in charge of all that power, because someone like the governor or negan?

Speaker 2:

is not using it for good. It's always like eric said it's always the people who want to be in power that always end up being the worst well, I said that, oh yeah our great. I said that our great host actually said that, eric. I heard him say that, yeah, reload the clip, reload the clip.

Speaker 1:

I said that I'm gonna reload the clip.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna roll back that I'm at this point. Editor note. I'm gonna replay who said it editor.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm gonna replay. Who said it? Okay, buddy, you're not the one editing here, I am the great tj.

Speaker 1:

Now back to our regularly scheduled program I kind of monologued that when I said anybody who wants to be in power is either a madman, a nut or a criminal madman, as in, they got the whole I don't even remember you

Speaker 3:

saying that saying I am negan that's some crazy cult shit, that is some crazy cold shit. Uh, and then any specific scenario that I would stay in place. I I think if you're in a rural area, like particularly a farmhouse or something hunker down, you're as far away from, I mean, unless you're like right on the outskirts of the town. But if you're like in the middle of fucking bum, fuck nowhere ohio, then yeah, maybe just chill in the cornfields or something your honor.

Speaker 2:

I'd like to point out that a farmhouse is my most perfect place to be at, because I will make moats oh, actually, I take it back alone traps and I will um, I will have plans yeah, I take it back.

Speaker 3:

I also have the. I have the winning answer for this one as well. I would stay still if I was in a houseboat.

Speaker 2:

That's the scenario but like hear me out the will you survive?

Speaker 3:

houseboat.

Speaker 2:

I would stay put.

Speaker 3:

I'm fishing. Where's the houseboat on a lake? We've already discussed this. We're going to pick a lake between where you live and where we live. Show me your fishing rod right now, eric, go get it oh my god, we're gonna be on a lake, dude, you're not. You don't think?

Speaker 1:

there's no doubt that our humble host has a fishing rod somewhere I, I don't anymore, but you know what I have fished with freaking stick and string exactly.

Speaker 2:

You wouldn't have thought of that, eric. I'm a great fisherman. You're so lucky to be in.

Speaker 1:

He is really good. Learn that good from this man.

Speaker 3:

No, you're so lucky to be in the room with this man. Learn from this man. No, you're not, he is really good. I used to have like an expensive ass tackle box you need to fish that caterpillar off of your face.

Speaker 2:

I had a bone cutting there are three two are attacking your eyes and one is attacking your upper lip in these last few episodes you have just been at my throat what is up. That's how I like it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, oh who got the point I think what he said is he doesn't like being choked whose point is this? Well, he really has no neck to choke so you got, you got, you got the point in this one all right, we have.

Speaker 2:

We have time, we have time for one oh, why did I get the point? I feel like I gotta got the point, but that's fine because I said houseboat.

Speaker 1:

That's why. Well, it was, yeah, the houseboat, but my my total answer what I was looking for, um, he got closest to. In any apocalyptic scenario, large groups of people or threats should be avoided unless you're in a fortified area. Nobody said that. Uh, well, he did when he said houseboat even then I feel like don't fuck with it.

Speaker 1:

Crowds can attract danger and one of our survivors actually said this, so shout out. Survivor who got disease, because, uh, that was one of the things that I had crowds can attract danger or increase the spread of infection, panic or violence, and both of you kind of hinted at the violence, but Eric actually hinted at the he didn't say directly infection, but he got close and all right. Final question, final one we got time for one more. Stay vigilant and adaptable. This is my favorite one, because this is what we have talked about a lot on the podcast is staying vigilant and adapting to your survival.

Speaker 3:

Your Honor, this question is the one I studied the most.

Speaker 1:

Oh, look at this.

Speaker 3:

Here we go.

Speaker 1:

But TJ gets to answer first. So the situation in cell constantly evolves. With the phoners becoming more organized over time, survivors need to adapt quickly to new threats. In any survival situation, adaptability and awareness are crucial. What challenges?

Speaker 2:

and changes should you be prepared to experience? Good luck, tj. Okay, so I'd like to uh opening pointic is a little bitch um. For the rest of the question, um, in any survival situation, adaptability and awareness are crucial. What challenges and changes should you be prepared to experience? Challenges, I would say weather. I would say, um, like eric said, sickness, um, you can never be like too careful with that. You always need to be prepared, always washing your hands, always. You know stuff like that, um, and really you can't really be aware of everything. So that's why you should always be prepared, you should always adapt. You don't know anything, so you should always be prepared to adapt to situations. That's all I really got.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, going going back to. Actually I think it was either the first or the second question, when we talked about, um, like hunkering down, um, well, I I read a comment on the live stream. One of our survivors was saying like, uh, being in a building, it's easy to get overrun. But one thing I thought about it I just didn't say it is that you should always have an escape plan, some sort of escape route, and I think that's part of being prepared and staying aware.

Speaker 2:

I read that from one of our commenters on the live stream. I'm just saying Well, no.

Speaker 3:

I read the concern I already had the idea I just didn't say it about We've already talked about in previous episodes. You need to always have an escape plan, no matter where you're at, and I think that's part of being prepared and staying vigilant is always knowing your escape routes, always knowing your exits exactly what I never, never walking into a situation with no knowledge, at least trying to prevent that as much as possible, because I don't think that's always.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't think it's realistic.

Speaker 3:

Now, when it comes to um challenges, I think the main ones you need weather is actually one I didn't think about that, one's really good but kind of ties into food and water. I think you need to be ready for food and water shortages because as humans, we've gotten very comfortable with the fact that we can just go to a grocery store and get food. I can go to the corner store and get food or get a drink. I can turn on the tap and get water. You can't do that in an apocalypse.

Speaker 3:

So you need to be much more concerned about preserving your food, keeping a supply of food, keeping a supply of food, keeping a supply of clean water, because that's going to be, I think, for a lot of people surprisingly difficult to maintain. So I think those are things you need to be ready to adapt for, because what happens if deer stop coming around your area and that was your main source of food? You need to be able to adapt. You either need to move camp to somewhere where the deer are or you need to um send hunting parties further in one direction trying to look for them. Whatever it be, whatever your I don't know that much about deer hunting, but whatever your situation may be, odds are you're going to face some sort of food or water shortage at some point and you need to be ready for that.

Speaker 2:

I'd also like to point out that you will also be facing situations such as you will not have access to health care. You need to be prepared. Oh yeah, have things at your disposal to help yourself because there are no doctors or nurses to help you, so always have the last thing epi pen, medications that you need, freaking bandages, just a whole med kit. You need.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, last thing you want is for somebody to get hurt and nobody thought about what if somebody gets your ankle? Yeah, so I I think that's also part of being vigilant and adaptable, like you're never going to avoid injury completely, but you can at least try to not put yourself in dumb situations, um, although most of the time when people hurt themselves, it's in retrospect that you look at it and go yeah, that was a dumb situation um it's never jumping off a roof I that I may or may not have been thinking of a particular instance, yeah, where maybe a host jumped off a roof and hurt both of his ankles fucking tj I can't believe when tj did that why do you think you could do that?

Speaker 1:

do what you're advanced at your advanced age I'm 24.

Speaker 2:

Um, I'd also like to say that you should always be prepared to adapt to god. Not having shelter age, you should always you know, you're not always gonna have something to cover your head. You always got to be prepared to make that yourself or know where some sort of shelter could be.

Speaker 3:

And then I I think my last point on this is um about just being vigilant and adaptable. You, which is that you know it's the main part of the whole fucking question, but I think the something that's kind of under, maybe under thought about is that you're gonna have to be on your toes 24 7. You don't get to relax anymore. You don't ever get to really just sit down and just chill. Things are out to kill you at all times. We're no longer at the top of the food chain, in a situation like cell or any zombie scenario something like that.

Speaker 3:

We're not at the top of the food chain, we're being hunted. So I think it's gonna take turning, I mean like flipping that switch in your mind that says I am now the hunted. I need to be on guard at all times, my ears need to always be listening. I need to sleep with one eye open.

Speaker 2:

I'm always at the top of the food chain. I'm going to turn this bitch into a terminus from Walking Dead.

Speaker 3:

All right, and with that wonderful, lovely comment, your Honor, I think, tj dies Let me announce our winner.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to announce who got that point. I actually gave the point to Eric TJ. The reason why I gave the point to.

Speaker 1:

Eric is. There were three specific things I was looking for. You actually pointed out two. He pointed out all three. It was environment, threats and available resources. Now, you did say available resources after you know that's where weather was environment and the staying alert and flexible, and that's you know, that's where I weather was environment and uh, the staying alert and flexible and uh, that's you know being alert and flexible is the difference between life and death and in these types of you know, any type of apocalyptic scenario and with that that gives us. Tj got avoid technology. He got a point for form alliances. Eric got a point for stay mobile, form alliances, avoid large groups and stay vigilant and adaptable but do I so?

Speaker 2:

eric is our winner. Your balaclava, though that's crazy. Um well, you're, you're definitely gonna get.

Speaker 1:

You're definitely gonna get uh props for that when uh we're able to, you know, help our. But do I get an extra?

Speaker 2:

point if Eric didn't get the podcast out on time this Friday.

Speaker 3:

I got mine out last Friday right on time, baby.

Speaker 1:

He was like I thought you did it.

Speaker 2:

In no way. You've never put up the podcast. Why would he even think that okay?

Speaker 3:

you don't know the situation. Okay, I walked into the kitchen. He was sitting, uh, at the. There's like a little office attached to our kitchen. He was sitting at the at the desk with his computer open. We were talking about the episode. He pulls it up and I was like, oh wait, I don't think I actually uploaded it yet. Like it's, it's in there. The file is uploaded, it's just not published yet, and so he looked at it and I could have sworn. I saw him hit publish, but he didn't. So that's my bad, I messed up, my bad, it really is Well, I mean to, to be fair.

Speaker 1:

But one thing that I will say in regards to this, I did not publish and will say in regards to this uh, I did not publish. And the reason why I didn't publish is eric was telling me he doesn't like the way the descriptions were written, and so I was looking at it and we were, we were reading it. He was reading it to me and he goes yeah, I, I usually change those. Um, I don't like the way they're written like that. So I was like, oh well, I was telling him don't reduce the quantity of words, just rewrite it to your liking, but we want more words because Google actually likes more text.

Speaker 3:

So you know what AI will do, though. So in our description it'll have something like something we just said right now. It'll literally say at the end of a paragraph it'll be like and listen as we discuss how ai adds weird words in description it'll say something like that and I'm like that's not part of the description of the episode.

Speaker 1:

I'm not arguing that. I was just saying when you, when you rewrite it, try not to take down like I don't mean don't take out words, I just mean don't yeah, don't add words in in place of it yeah, you know a lot of work, but yeah, I know what you mean.

Speaker 1:

I know what you mean it doesn't need to be perfect and I don't. I don't need you to. You know, if it's, if it's quote, unquote, 500 words, I don't need you to keep it 500 words. I'm just trying to mean, like, keep it generally close. So with that, uh, let's say thank you to all of our survivors for tuning in live, listening to our rants and raves, and I have a winner speech, huh can I give a winner speech?

Speaker 3:

go ahead, um, I won this because I'm the superior scholar and I think everybody knows that I took my time to research, uh. But now that I am the winner and the confirmed host of next episode, I must admit that last question I didn't have shit for I. I was like we'll just see what happens, because I read that shit like five times and couldn't think of jack shit to say. So I'm impressed, I got that point. I'm happy with the outcome. I'll be here next week.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 2:

I'm going to keep saying it everybody, sure, remember if you want to send me $1,000, I will get your name tattooed on me. I feel like this is not the best.

Speaker 1:

Thing to be promoted. I really want Josh to do it, Josh.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you I will kick Josh on my freaking kneecap or something. No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not the name you get to put.

Speaker 1:

That is not the name you get to put. Josh, you're number one official fan. You're number one official fan Fan official oh yeah. Well, okay.

Speaker 3:

You're number one fan official too. So here's the thing.

Speaker 2:

This is official two so here's the thing this is not a thousand dollars that goes to will you survive?

Speaker 3:

it's a thousand dollars.

Speaker 1:

This is just a tj thing, I don't care like well, no, I just want this to be clear for the survivors this is just something tj is offering.

Speaker 3:

Will you survive? Has nothing to do with?

Speaker 1:

oh, that's true, this is just tj's offer it is true, but but he still has to get Josh's screen name put on him, your number one fan official too.

Speaker 2:

Screen name or I'll get his profile.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we got to start a GoFundMe for Josh just to get him $1,000 so that TJ has to put your number one fan official on his body. That would be comical, it would be quite the spectacle.

Speaker 3:

I think we're done, we're done.

Speaker 2:

You can find us on everything.

Speaker 3:

Apple Podcasts. I think he already said all that I've signed all of those and until next time.

Speaker 1:

The only thing left to say Until next time.

Speaker 2:

Stay alive brother brother, get that bread, get that money, send me a thousand dollars. I'll put your name on me and I love y'all. Goodbye, thank you.

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