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Will You Survive: Zombie Survival Myths
Can a blunt weapon save you from a zombie, or will you be better off with something sharp? Join us on this thrilling episode of "Will You Survive the Podcast" as we shatter common myths about zombie weaponry and reveal the often-ignored dangers of melee combat. Using examples from popular games and shows, we dissect the merits of various weapons and stress the importance of strategic planning in survival scenarios.
Learn about the pros and cons of biodiesel, the challenges of solar energy, and the feasibility of electric vehicles. From the best methods for water purification and food preservation to choosing the most strategic shelter locations, we cover it all.
Whether you're considering a mountain retreat, an isolated island, or a hidden food distribution center, we provide practical advice to help you make the best decisions. Don't miss this jam-packed episode full of insights and debates to help you prepare for any apocalyptic scenario.
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You just want to talk about survival games, Because I'll totally do that oh wait, we could Well, if we're talking about survival games, we should talk about Minecraft.
Speaker 1:Oh, the best survival game, Of course, Easily hands down. Anyways, we're not talking about that. Hello survivors, and welcome to another episode of Will you Survive? The.
Speaker 3:Podcast. Is that a question? It always is.
Speaker 1:Is it a podcast? I don't know. Sometimes there is no order and it's usually when I'm hosting. So, I have a surprise that you guys kind of already know. Okay, you actually, alex, don't know the full story. You didn't watch the movie again.
Speaker 3:Shut up, that is nonsense.
Speaker 1:So two of us may not have watched the movie, but I did have plans in case I didn't watch the movie right, and I actually kind of think this is a better topic, uh, to get into, which is drumroll, please, thank you. Thank you. Myths about zombie survival Myths. Okay, so I want to talk about if you guys have any myths off the top of your head. I would love to just start talking about those, or I have a list of things we can go through going through weapons and their effectiveness, which ones are most preferred, going through different types of shelter, different types of zombie myths and food and water myths. So if you guys have anything that you would want to talk about, I kind of want to open the floor up right now. If anybody has a particular zombie myth, go ahead. I'm tj zombie myth.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know, man, oh, that got us both.
Speaker 3:I waited so long that might be that might be important, huh maybe that might, that might mean something oh well, I guess I'm eric I'm drinking and he's drunk, he forgot his name.
Speaker 1:So anyways, moving on I'm alex okay, yeah it we're. We're a little bit rusty, apparently, apparently, okay anybody, so, um, help me out here.
Speaker 3:What is, uh, what is a myth that we're discussing?
Speaker 1:So myth is kind of a loose term, to be honest. It's a very loose term because I don't think any of these necessarily qualify as myths, but it's kind of more like what we think might be misconceptions Like guns are the best weapon, are they?
Speaker 3:Well, I have to. I'm going to steal yours, TJ, because that was like the most eye-opening thing that you said. There would be so much more infection so much more infection with melee weapons, because I mean there's no way to avoid getting blood splattered in your eye or in your mouth or up your nose even.
Speaker 2:Unless you're going out with a hazmat suit. No way It's're going out with a hazmat suit?
Speaker 3:No way, it's not going to happen. So I think there would be far more infection from actually doing the survival things If you're going out and doing. Let me just throw back here nobody knows, but we used to play Dying Light. You would play, basically, and I would just run around and hide behind you. You would get all of the weapons built up and I would just run around and hide behind you.
Speaker 3:You would get all of the weapons built up and I would kill zombies and I would just I would kill every single zombie that I would come across, which is not realistic in that game. Right, because you would destroy the weapons and you were like no go ahead, I have more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll get you more. I'll do another one.
Speaker 3:And I would just keep going and just kill every single zombie, because you gave me every one of the best weapons, because you gave me every one of the best weapons.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing is, I never. I liked to be Katniss Everdeen in that game. I liked to run around with my crossbow and my different type or my compound bow and my different types of arrows, right. So I never used any of the melee weapons or anything. So I just had a stash of like 400 melee weapons that were all legendary and I'm like I guess.
Speaker 3:But realistically now, with with that tj you mentioned this in a couple of episodes now that that kind of meleeing that we see in every movie it would cause so much more infection. I think that's a myth yeah, no, okay.
Speaker 2:You're gonna get blood everywhere. It's gonna get all up in your eyes and everything that's's one I didn't really think about.
Speaker 3:And your example was key man. Actually, you gave him two points. That's fair because your example was key Rick Grimes would have turned into a zombie.
Speaker 2:with all of that blood all over his face, he's always covered and he's sweating, so it's like when I'm sweating. I get sweat in my eye all the time, so, like it's you know, transferring the blood.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing With that being said. That kind of contradicts a main strategy that has been presented on this podcast a few times, which is the gut strategy. Yep, that could be dangerous if we think infection could be that easy be dangerous if we're, if we think infection could be that easy.
Speaker 3:No, no, I think it's good, but the stress, the way they did, the strategy in uh, in the episode guts, they covered themselves up, they had their clothes, then they put an extra layer on top of them and then they put those um, rubber gloves all the way, those big rubber gloves that went all the way above the elbows. So I mean that made sense, right and they had the face shields, and so it was like make sure not to get any on your skin.
Speaker 1:Like oh okay, no, they were really careful about it. I guess I kind of forgot about that. But you.
Speaker 3:You lose that later in the. In the seasons, they became far more careless, which it would have exposed them far more so my first kind of my first topic was blunt weapons or sharp weapons.
Speaker 1:Which would you prefer if you had to pick one?
Speaker 3:Sharp weapons. Sharp weapons For sure.
Speaker 2:I feel like if you're going to, like you know, only melee, I think a katana is probably the best weapon, especially if you keep it sharp, because if you've ever cut yourself with something sharp, it doesn't bleed right away. So if you're quick enough with it, it's not going to get on you. But if it's a blunt force weapon, that's where the blood splatter and stuff comes into play. I've watched Dexter. I'm basically an expert.
Speaker 1:There's also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true.
Speaker 1:Well, not really. You would know that it's spatter and not splatter.
Speaker 2:That's good your mustache is spatter. Good call host. Thank you Wow.
Speaker 1:Minus one point, whoa. Plus one point for sucking up to me because of that one point I'm an easy host. So, sucking up to me because of that one point, I'm an easy host. So, uh, I do like that point. But I kind of want to bring up zombies. Would they even be like sputtering out blood?
Speaker 3:no right.
Speaker 2:So blood is stagnant, it's not moving yeah, so you really wouldn't have to worry about that probably yeah, which makes walkers like you know, like they walk because their legs are so heavy, so they got weights in their legs they wouldn't be able to run.
Speaker 3:I agree, yeah what?
Speaker 1:what if the blood became like an ooze, like the virus made it become like a thick ooze, and it would just stay in their veins where it was?
Speaker 3:I mean, eventually, gravity, yeah, yeah yeah, if we, if we go back to resident evil the blood was coagulated, remember it's like that's not possible. Why not?
Speaker 3:because that only happens after you're dead yeah but so there's, um, true, can I bring up a different? Are we done with sharp? We both agree sharp. Oh wait, I will say one thing um, I love the idea of a katana. The only problem I have with it is they are super sharp for a very long time, but once they get dull for an amateur like me I mean, I can sharpen virtually any kitchen knife, I can sharpen my kukuri, but I wouldn't have the knowledge, I wouldn't have the know-how of how to sharpen a katana Once it's dull. To me it's useless.
Speaker 1:Well, you just have to get your survivor friend. Who's a katana? Once it's dull, to me it's useless. Well, you just have to get your, your uh survivor friend who's a katana expert, and then which?
Speaker 3:which survivor friend is a katana they'll show up so do I get plot armor? But yeah, I'm on it baseball bats.
Speaker 1:It's a common theme in and before we move away from blunt objects. It's a common theme throughout movies and video games to make a baseball bat with nails. How realistic are we thinking?
Speaker 2:that is because I am not thinking that's very realistic no, I think that's garbage unless it's like really thick nails that can't be bent, then I don't think it's realistic, because after a couple uses it, all the nails will be bent around and whatever it gets stagged on things.
Speaker 3:And I have a different problem with it in a baseball bat, is that thick of a nail is going to split the bat.
Speaker 1:That's. I was going to bring that up. Yeah, If you would have to have thick enough nails that they wouldn't bend and that they could actually penetrate easily, but that would split the bat.
Speaker 3:You would have to drill holes in the bat, which is going to compromise the strength of the wood.
Speaker 1:Also, baseball players break bats on baseballs, not heads. So, heads are going to break them even easier.
Speaker 3:I mean the head would be compromised so it would be soft, but it would eventually I mean your repetitive use. Let me go back to another game which maybe our survivors. I think our survivors like the games and I do think one of these days we're going to have to get into the games, because I've spoken a lot to the survivors on tiktok about left for dead, dead island oh yeah and dying light classics, um which one?
Speaker 3:I think all of them have a common theme where you use a melee or a sharp object enough and it loses integrity. And I think that would be the most realistic thing about a baseball bat the more you use it, even though the zombie's heads are going to be compromised, they're going to be soft, softer, not soft softer, but after a while it is going to deplete the integrity of the bat and it will break.
Speaker 1:Durability is, as a player, a horrible mechanic, but it is a necessary and very needed mechanic in games.
Speaker 3:I would leave a baseball bat alone. I wouldn't put nails in it. It would still break, but I wouldn't put nails in it. You have a lot of problems with what if you get it stuck it's gonna let's say let's say it doesn't bend the nail, you know, but it gets stuck in their head. And you're now. You've got zombies closing in on you and you can't pull it out rapidly. That's gonna be a big problem that's why you keep your kukuri on your hip. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I'm I have a secondary the kukuri that you could find on our pinterest board on pinterest. That's what I'm saying. I'm. I have a secondary, the kukuri, that you could find on our pinterest board on pinterest. That's right. About the podcast, that's right. That's crazy if only I had. You know, if we had, like some sort of video podcast, I'd be able to, you know, show the kukuri off oh, okay, well, maybe post it on our instagram, because don't, don't, don't make me stress about the idea of video editing.
Speaker 2:So, you know I should get one of those test dummies like with the gelatin and the skull on the inside.
Speaker 1:I'll freaking post a video of me freaking like yeah. That'd be sick, that would actually be so sick.
Speaker 3:Okay, so can I bring up another myth? Go ahead. Okay, here's a big myth that we see in every movie. Virtually Long beyond a year into the zombie apocalypse, gas is still being used.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to bring that one up. Yeah, I wanted to talk about that. I know nothing about gas. I just know that it's stored in tanks underneath the gas station and it pumps into the fuel, into the gas pumps and it does not last as long as you think it does. Right, that's all I know about it. What my question is is that something that, with the knowledge and maybe enough material, you could make your own gas that could run a car?
Speaker 3:so I personally don't have the knowledge of how to refine petroleum, but it's not uh, it's not exclusively an engineer level thing what about one of those phd guys that we know?
Speaker 1:you think they would know how to do something like that, or could like figure it out? The materials.
Speaker 3:I think they would be able to figure it out. What kind of materials do you think you would need?
Speaker 1:We would have to make our way to Long Beach, oh we would have to get oil, and they have refineries, oh, okay.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, you have to pump the oil, you have to get it, you have to have certain tools at refineries to do it. I don't have enough knowledge.
Speaker 1:But I but I think, yeah, certain people you'd have to go to a refinery. It's not something you could like kind of redneck your way through in the backyard.
Speaker 3:I don't know enough, I wouldn't be able to tell you yes or no on that. I would love to hear from our survivors and tell me if it's, if it's something.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go on a YouTube deep dive of people making their own gasoline if I may, for all of our survivors listening to this podcast later on Spotify or wherever you're listening to it, go over to our TikTok and we broadcast live. One of our live survivors, lance St Clair, says gasoline for the average person is a stretch, but biodiesel is highly probable. Now I still don't have the knowledge, but I think could a car run on biodiesel? A diesel car? Sure, yes, but I. There are problems with biodiesel.
Speaker 2:Biodiesel doesn't burn as cleanly you'd have to be like really well versed in it you would.
Speaker 3:But biodiesel doesn't burn as cleanly and if it sits stagnant for too long, it it does clog, it separates and it creates this gunk, right, this sticky gunk, and it will get stuck past your fuel filters. It will clog your high pressure lines, it'll clog your injectors. I know that because I just had to get a repair company to repair a diesel engine. The injectors were clogged, the high-pressure lines were clogged. I mean, this biodiesel's not good.
Speaker 1:Gotcha.
Speaker 3:And it has a shelf life of two months.
Speaker 2:Oh, so even worse. What you're saying is the Tesla Cybertruck is probably the best vehicle to be used in the zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 1:This episode is sponsored by the Tesla.
Speaker 3:No, I'm kidding but again, I mean, our biggest problem with with uh, tesla, with electricity, with all electric power to everything, is the power grid.
Speaker 1:Now, what if you're a markiplier and you have 48 solar panels and you're collecting about two kilowatts? 20 kilowatts, what's what's, what's too much is 20.
Speaker 3:None of that.
Speaker 1:None of that is enough gotcha you can look at, uh, so do you think if we had 48 solar panels on our roof that was connected to our apartment, that that could run our apartment for?
Speaker 2:a day okay yeah, you'd have to have, you know, batteries to store it and whatever, but this is all stuff you need to do before but do you know how big, how big that is yeah, I assume he has a massive house 48 solar panels is enormous is that like our entire roof?
Speaker 1:yeah, oh wow, like of the whole complex well, this, this section oh, okay, it would be this whole section, and it's only expensive and it's only efficient for half of the day yeah, while the sun is.
Speaker 3:That's why you need batteries, yeah, batteries so, because the sun is, the sun is pointing at the solar panels. Uh, half the, the other half it's not. Unless you were to do half and half which half of your solar panels are active for the first half of the day and half for the second. It's going to be the same.
Speaker 1:On the topic of solar batteries. I have so much music downloaded on my phone. I swear to God I can make a business in the zombie apocalypse on just listening to music off of my phone with a solar battery, so I mean they're.
Speaker 3:Those are usually pretty cool. You can do that um for small items. You're taught. One of the things that's hard for for most people to realize is solar panels. They, they work. I'm not saying they don't work, but things like your refrigerator run power all night long. That's where TJ's right. You need batteries to store all of the electricity that you've captured all day long, and clouds are a thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm not going to lie. I actually do know all of this because of Minecraft, and I think TJ knows what I'm talking about freaking like electrical system, like I built a whole ass power farm.
Speaker 1:It was a whole solar farm and I I had to figure out how to run it with the cables through our, through our house and to power all of our shit. It was wild and I I had to keep upgrading the batteries because every time we would add a new system it would take more power than I, and then I expected it to, and I would. I would just run out at the nighttime all the time. Our fucking storage system would die halfway through the night or like halfway through the day, when it would be like cloudy, it stormed, like three days in a row and we had no power.
Speaker 3:See, we're I mean we're good with that most of the time in Southern California, but the so TJ's fucked. Well, in the winter months it's just harder because the sun is so much lower in the sky. You're not getting direct hit on your solar panels. So certain times of the year are great and other times are really bad. For us it's going to be summertime is going to be really good, wintertime is going to be really bad and you're not going to get as much power storage, right, one of the things just for we're going to talk real quick about emergency capabilities, right.
Speaker 3:One of the things I think about. The Walking Dead is a good example. Just because they were using electricity in Alexandria, this must have been. Could it have been months, several months after, I mean, it had to have even been longer than several months after. It had to have been at least a year or two into the apocalypse that they were in Alexandria and they were still running power. Right, they still had electricity.
Speaker 3:Now, they had engineers on the site. They apparently knew what they were doing. They had things going solar panels, windmills, blah, blah, blah. Right, but I think all of the houses that they had, with the limited number of solar panels that they had, with the limited number of solar panels that they had, the limited wind power that they had. They wouldn't have air conditioning or, I'm sorry, power the way they had. They had lights, they had TVs. Remember the kids were playing video games. They had refrigerators. Now I do like one thing that they did was they had an isolated commissary that had all of the food stored in the one freezer, one refrigerator. That's more likely than everybody having their own refrigerator in their home. That's just the amount that they had is not likely, and I think we take a lot of the stuff they show in movies for granted that that's not the way it's going to be. Solar and wind are highly inefficient, especially if you're talking about you're rebuilding these systems in an apocalyptic state and TJ, I feel like you might particularly know this a little more.
Speaker 1:What are the odds of getting a power grid back online?
Speaker 2:I think that if you don't got the right people, it's probably not going to freaking happen, especially in like if you know think of like day one zombie apocalypse, shit's exploding. You know like you can't fix something if it's already like.
Speaker 1:You know that begs a different question. Do we, assuming nothing catastrophic happens to the power plant, like if the power plant blows up because zombies get in there and shit starts happening then yeah, that's whatever. But let's say it's Glendale Power and Water. They have that big facility, let's say nothing catastrophic happens there. We've kind of talked about this in the Hashtag Alive episode. How long do you guys think power and water would continue to go?
Speaker 2:Depends on what's powering it. Is it like a hydroelectric dam? Is it solar wind?
Speaker 3:So how do we get our power? This one is uh, there's, there's several different stations and many substations. That is a good question. I I believe, from the look of it, they're using um, I think they're using petroleum, I think they're using diesel, so it wouldn't keep going that long.
Speaker 3:Not for long, but you would have to see all of the different substations. So one of the ones that I would talk about would be well, southern California, edison uses combinations all over the state. None of them use nuclear power, which would. I mean that would be the one that would last for years, but it would eventually melt down without care.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you. We would have to be clear of that area. That would be what is the Burbank one, that big power station?
Speaker 3:That's actually uh, that's actually GWP.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, cool. So that's um, I believe the majority of them are petroleum.
Speaker 3:I believe the majority of them are petroleum. They're not coal. We don't do coal in California.
Speaker 1:Forgive my ignorance. That big power station in Burbank has what looks like the nuclear silos or whatever they're called. What are those if it's not nuclear?
Speaker 3:Where is that at? Where it's in Burbank Nuclear? That's not. We don't have nuclear here, we have nuclear down in San Clemente.
Speaker 1:Well that's what I'm saying. If it's not they're like stacks of some kind, but they kind of look like the nuclear towers.
Speaker 3:No, those wouldn't be nuclear towers. Yeah, I think you're talking about smokestacks.
Speaker 1:Okay, but they're not like thin, like smokestacks normally are. They're very big, very wide.
Speaker 3:I think you're. I think you're misinterpreting what I probably am, because what down, down in san clemente I think it's san clemente, I, I don't want to say this wrong city. It's in between san diego and near oceanside. One of the things that they that they did was, uh, built these two domes and there's no smokestack on it, like they're just these two domes, but it's also out near the ocean. So I think they're using water, they're using ocean water to cool it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:That's how they keep it cool. What you might be seeing is see though, those would be anything like that. That would be towers like that, would be smokestacks, but what would it be? For Cause there's not nuclear in burbank? It would be. It could be coal, which, but I don't think they're allowed to burn coal anymore. It would be vents but um, but for what?
Speaker 1:what it would probably be petroleum.
Speaker 2:That's what I think they're burning diesel okay so about power and shit, you're not really like using that much power, I would think in like they're like people back in the day didn't have electricity and there's so much like you could do with stuff you know, like for refrigeration. Yeah, depending on where you are, lakes might freeze. Go cut that ice, dig a big hole, throw some freaking hay in it and that'll stay like cold and not melted for freaking like the whole year or whatever I think we might be a little screwed refrigeration wise out here I thought about what you said, eric, about the music.
Speaker 2:Vinyl records don't need electricity. Hand crank.
Speaker 1:You can fucking you, you can make a crank and all you need is a needle and you can hear it that could be sick that could be a good source of trade it's the apocalypse you could capture somebody and, in voluntary servitude, have them crank your vinyl this is the end.
Speaker 2:I feel, like that's something that would vinyl like.
Speaker 1:This is the end they don't do that, and this is the end. But I feel like that's something that would happen and this is the end.
Speaker 2:Oh jesus, that's thank you both for laughing at my bad joke, plus one point each water like water power would be pretty good if you move up next to like a river constantly stream.
Speaker 3:Make your own water wheel, you know and, and you know something like that, that's perpetual power. That would never stop overnight. That, and I also think there are ways you could go back into the old days. Um, underground, like wine cellar, food cellars um, you salt your meat, you store it underground, it it holds temperature so much better underground they typically call it cellar temperature as opposed to room temperature, and cell better underground they typically call it cellar temperature as opposed to room temperature, and cellar temperature will typically hold around 55 degrees uh, once you keep it nice and cool and you keep it covered.
Speaker 2:But it's a nice um it's not great, but it's good enough, you know like our fridges. They usually, usually stay like 40.
Speaker 3:Right, but you know, with salted meat, though with salted meat, if you get into over your cooked meat in a solid glass jar and you vacuum seal it which vacuum seals can be hand pumped so it doesn't have to be powered and once you do that, as long as you're protecting your meat from oxygen, it's perfectly fine. It will last for years like that, even outside of the the refrigerator so where are we getting all the salt?
Speaker 3:salt is going to be worth its weight in gold I mean ocean, go, scoop some ocean water, boil it turns to salt.
Speaker 1:How easy is it. What is it? Desalinization?
Speaker 3:it's not, it's not all right, it's very easy. But what he's talking about is actually true, because you're going to get far more salt than you're going to get water.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's called a solar. Still, if you're in a real you-need-water survival situation, dig a hole. If you get maybe some clear plastic or whatever, throw it over that, have a tub of water, of the salt water, and then have it dip to where you want the water to drop. It'll evaporate the water onto the film and then collect where, like you put like a rock or something on the plastic so it dips down and then that's. That's the way you can do it. Um, or you can get like a series of like pipes and whatever and have it like boil off and, like you know, need a condenser and stuff.
Speaker 3:But so here's also a really easy way of doing it. You take a bowl. You take a big pot with a lid right, a fitted lid. You fill the pot about a quarter of the way. You put a bowl that's bigger than the line of the water. You put it in the center. You take your lid and flip it upside down so it's conical going down and you just boil the shit out of that water. It'll evaporate.
Speaker 2:It'll drip and it'll definitely easier than what I said. Same premise, Same concept.
Speaker 1:Now you're so your thing didn't make sense, but after that makes sense now now, I had a hard time visualizing it, but that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 2:Your Honor you aren't a survivalist.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not. That was actually. That was way above my pay grade right there.
Speaker 3:But I'll tell you what both ways everything that we're talking about will leave you salt right, the salt is going to get left behind in the bottom and you have clean water and you have drinking water. No, it's drinking water.
Speaker 2:Once you do that, oh yeah, you purify it.
Speaker 1:It leaves the salt behind now, would the salt have all the germs and stuff from the water?
Speaker 3:no, it would be boiled. Oh, that's true, so here's. Here's the other thing. Uh, remember that distilled water it um, it's not necessarily the best for you to drink, because distilled water will leach your body from minerals. So take a small pinch of that salt and throw it in there.
Speaker 2:That's why they add minerals to like bottled water and stuff Gotcha, because you need that for your body.
Speaker 1:So with that, that kind of leads into this next part, which is about shelters. Kind of got to pick a spot, I guess, close enough to the beach that you could get there if you needed salt. I would say that's probably the easiest way to get salt. I do think a large majority of the population is going to die rather immediately. Majority of the population is going to die rather immediately, and I think that's going to leave a lot of salt shakers behind and more than people could really loot. I don't I mean, unless you're really like trying to get a monopoly on salt and you just go around every house in a neighborhood taking all the salt. I don't think it's a condiment that you couldn't or like a seasoning that you couldn't just go to a random house and find so another myth big box stores aren't the best to go to in a, you know, zombie, apocalyptic situation, that's.
Speaker 3:That's where the first place people are gonna go I agree, we just had this conversation on the live people trample people on black friday.
Speaker 2:You think they're not gonna?
Speaker 3:mess you up for some food water, you know but do you know where the better place to go would be, to our pinterest, where?
Speaker 2:you can get your own bug out bag it has everything you need for a survival situation. You can build your own. You put anything you want in there, especially first aid, which is very important.
Speaker 3:Well, I'll tell you that that's great for planning. That's what we want for planning SHTF. You go to food distribution centers. Most people don't know where they are, most people don't know what they are, and they're mostly solid concrete. They're not open. Stores Like Costco would probably be the better box store to go to, because it has no windows, no doors. They're roll-up doors, right, so they're metal, but that I think TJ's right.
Speaker 2:Everybody knows where Costco is. That could be a good base.
Speaker 3:Take all those shelves. If you can hold it down, you're right I mean Costco would be.
Speaker 1:You could have a straight-up town in a Costco.
Speaker 2:You could.
Speaker 1:Those places are massive, but everybody knows if shit happens, shit's happening in a Costco, that's right. So probably going to be infested with zombies. But that kind of leads to the question what's the best type of place to to hold down? I've got some examples here. I'll read them off and then we can discuss malls, basements, prisons, schools, apartments, houses, farmhouses, shops, discuss well, let me say the first thing.
Speaker 3:I think TJ, you and I will agree on this Not a basement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one exit, one entrance.
Speaker 3:You're stuck. I like the idea of the mall because it has some supplies, but I also think it's like the box stores it's going to be raided. People are going to go there in mass.
Speaker 1:I also think just too many exits and entrances to secure not a lot of food either at a mall, yeah, it's all like prepared food already it's yeah, I'm gonna go to ross nara bread.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna freaking on the ends.
Speaker 1:Go get a pretzel like what I'm gonna take someone's mobile order yeah I I okay.
Speaker 3:so out of the ones that you named, I would probably say a country, farmhouse. Out of the way, out of the city. You want to be as rural as you can be. Now I will say this I do not recommend a city in between San Francisco and LA or San Diego and LA, even though they're rural, because the hordes will trample, they are going to— They'll migrate. Yeah, they're rural because the hordes will trample.
Speaker 1:They are going to-.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're going to meet each other.
Speaker 1:You at least want to be out of the way, out of the main-.
Speaker 3:The path of least resistance is between San Francisco and San Diego. You start going east, you're hitting mountains. They're not going to naturally migrate east, they're going to naturally migrate toward each other.
Speaker 1:I think we should go up to the mountains if a zombie apocalypse happens I like mountains, I love mountains they're hard to traverse.
Speaker 2:That's the first season of the walking dead showed that if you make any noise up there, it, like you know it, echoes they'll start coming.
Speaker 1:That's true but that's the same problem that I had with hashtag alive. No human would hear that and go oh, it's from over there. You would just start hearing echoes bouncing off of all the mountains.
Speaker 3:You'd have no fucking idea where it's coming from yeah, if humans are so confused about that, zombies would have no idea what they're hearing or where it's like in hashtag alive, where they shot the gunshot on the top floor at a certain apartment.
Speaker 1:They shot it and now the zombies are like, oh, I know exactly which apartment they're in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what yeah, no, I, and I completely agree with that, because me I'm not a tracker by any stretch of the imagination, but I have really good hearing, and when I hear helicopters in the city I've been fooled many times. All the skyscrapers where, all the buildings I'm looking to the east, you know, thinking wow, that helicopter's so close. And I'm looking to the east. I'm like when am I going to see it?
Speaker 1:it should clear this and it comes through this building and then it goes up above me, passes over.
Speaker 3:I'm like oh shit right and I've been fooled like that. I think a zombie is going to easily be fooled. The sound it sounds like it's coming from the east. I'm going to keep walking that direction and then all of a sudden, the helicopter passes over and goes exactly the way I'm going and it's like, oh okay, or you know, the sound dissipates and doesn't. There's no more sound. So I just keep walking in the same general direction. It's going to be it's. It's going to be a great distraction to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the only thing you have to worry about in the mountains is the wildlife.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that would be mine, but I'm going to give you my number one choice. If I have my choice of where to go, I am getting to Catalina Island.
Speaker 1:You don't worry about. Islands are good you don't worry about uh ocean zombies like in like in world war z the book minecraft no or what about the drowned in minecraft?
Speaker 3:no, because once I, once I get over there plus one point for drowned once I get over there, I'm gonna be okay, right, I have to get over there, but um what?
Speaker 1:if it's dead island? What if you get there and they're already zombies?
Speaker 3:well, there's gonna be some zombies there, because there are people on catalina island assuming that this is a it's gonna be a frat girl who just thought she drank too much.
Speaker 1:who didn't think anything of it? Of the weird homeless guy who bit her in the CVS parking lot, it's always Kathy.
Speaker 3:So, in this particular example, I'm not too worried about Catalina Island. The population is very small. It's going to be mostly vendors and not a whole lot of people live there. So either the infection is a global phenomenon and you're not able to get away from it, or we're going to be able to get on the Island and it hasn't hit there yet and you're going to have. You're going to have what you're talking about, where people are going to be like what? No, I just got to go home, I got to go to my family. I have to get out of here.
Speaker 1:You know that's the kind of stuff you're going to be dealing with. Uh, you'll have to, you know, tj it and cap someone in the kneecap so that, no, he didn't say the kneecap, he did. No, he did. I said, he said he did.
Speaker 3:Oh, did you yeah, but I didn't know he did and I thought he meant off the person. I was like whoa, what the hell? Then he said kneecap. Later I was like oh, I get it.
Speaker 1:Even after editing, I think I still thought he just wanted to assassinate someone and be like now listen, I'm not fucking Negan, that's where I thought you were going, Eeny meeny, miny moe and then frickin' merc somebody. It's not eeny meeny miny, moe, it's eeny meeny miny. You're causing a problem. I don't you know.
Speaker 2:I'll kneecap and then I'll perform first aid on them, but that'll tell you. I'll take them out of the situation, but I'll tell you what like, but then I do a good thing after, but then I help him in that situation.
Speaker 3:Look at it from Negan's perspective. They were all causing a problem.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they merked an entire, like an entire squad, right so like while they slept right.
Speaker 3:So it's like you're, you're all a problem and I'm letting you off easy. I'm only offing two people, but I'm not saying it's right right, right right I'm not saying it's right I'm not saying I agreed with negan, I'm just saying from his perspective it's Daryl's fault.
Speaker 2:It kind of, was it kind of was anyway for.
Speaker 1:Glenn and then. So where are we landing?
Speaker 2:So after VR base left.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking I do. I think Catalina Island would be the best place, cause you'd be able to get there before the ocean, before the zombies would figure out that they can walk underwater uh, they will eventually figure it out, but then you can fortify the, the island, and make sure that they can't just walk up anywhere. There are some cliffs around it, so it's not easy to walk up all over the place, but then there are some beaches that you would have to protect, so you would have enough time you'd be able to do it. And then, uh, then you'd have plenty of fishing. You would have, uh you know what?
Speaker 1:I think your biggest problem with that plan is what people sure it it has now turned into like but what do we say on this podcast all the time?
Speaker 3:the zombies aren't the problem.
Speaker 1:That people are yeah, that's what I'm saying is you're escaping the zombies, but you're walking into a new civilization of people who are not gonna get along la I mean, that's true, all people it's the lesser of that's right in a sense but why not go up to the mountains less?
Speaker 3:people because the mountains are still going to be invaded eventually. I think kind of best place would be a farmhouse.
Speaker 2:I think I'm going to build a really deep trench all around it and then, you know, as maintenance, I'm going to perform my maintenance duties and I'm going to. You know, when zombies walk in the pit every once in a while, burn pit Easy. Oh yeah, all of them burnt to ash. The next ones can come in. That's gonna stink well, there's well depends your
Speaker 1:fire depends if it's just one, just a small amazon air purifier put right in the middle.
Speaker 3:Even even easier than that an even easier solution to that is remember the hotter, the. That is, remember the hotter the fire, the less smoke the hotter the fire, the hotter you can make that fire, the less smoke and the less smell the smoke is like leftover particles of whatever you're burning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's all the particulates. So the hotter the fire, the less particulates are going to be escaped, and the less smell, the less. So how are you going to make it hot, though? That depends. So I mean particulates are going to be escaped and the less smell, the less. So how are you going to make it hot, though? That that depends. So I mean you can just use a lot of fuel. You can use stuff like you could use a lot of tinder, so what if I use rocket fuel?
Speaker 3:gone. Okay, good, but light it. How do you? How are you?
Speaker 2:gonna light it. If it can melt fuel beams, it can melt rocket fuel jet fuel.
Speaker 3:Uh, diesel, diesel. You can light. Light a match and put it to diesel and see what happens. It'll just extinguish, it just goes out, damn.
Speaker 1:How do you light it?
Speaker 3:Actually, do you know how a diesel engine works? You know that diesel engines have no spark plugs in them. No, it ignites from compression.
Speaker 1:Oh, from getting crushed Yep.
Speaker 2:Everything has a flash point. That's like why if you put a match in vodka it's not gonna light on fire, because it's not the flash point, but if you heat that up and then go to light it, then it'll light interesting, yeah, so also alcatraz, I think would be a better island al.
Speaker 3:Alcatraz isn't bad, no.
Speaker 2:There's only tours there, so at most like what 20 people?
Speaker 3:And nobody even lives there.
Speaker 1:Now hang on. I counter you with Mob of the Dead the zombie. I've never seen it. No, it's the zombie map from Black Ops.
Speaker 3:Oh, Well, here's, I'm just saying Zombies are going to make it through the ocean.
Speaker 1:It started there. What?
Speaker 3:if it starts there? My only problem with Alcatraz is getting to it. Right, you what I? I'm capable of, just book a tour in advance.
Speaker 3:I'm capable of getting on a catamaran or a small vessel and getting to Catalina Island or a small vessel and getting to Catalina Island and we have a very similar problem down here, except for it's not as extreme getting through San Francisco and getting onto a boat in the bay or in the harbor and getting out to Alcatraz. We would be going from the city to the city, going out. That would be death. Now we would have to get a larger boat, which I don't know how to drive but we can find a captain somewhere, I'm sure and get out to sea and then get up to Alcatraz.
Speaker 1:We just have to get there. We don't have to park the boat, no.
Speaker 3:I'm not worried about that. I know some of those larger vessels that would have the fuel to get from down here to up there.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're talking about. Sorry, we're talking from down here to up there. I was thinking we're still in San Francisco.
Speaker 3:No, I would not want to get into a car and drive from here. Fight in San Francisco to get to a boat to get to Alcatraz.
Speaker 1:Well, I would say, if Alcatraz is even a viable option, you are in San Francisco when it happens.
Speaker 3:Now there is an alternative for us is the Santa Barbara Islands.
Speaker 1:It's a little further north.
Speaker 3:It's much smaller. You also have further south, you have Coronado Island, but that's a lot easier to get to. For the zombies, they can easily wait out there. It's not very deep. It's deep enough to drown.
Speaker 1:It's not deep enough to to like slow them down now, but realistically do we think the water pressure would crush their heads?
Speaker 3:not, definitely not at catalina. Or uh, not, definitely not. Yeah, either Not Catalina, not Coronado, definitely not Alcatraz.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not even you know what I realized is that I said Alcatraz like I live in California but I live in Washington and we have a lot of islands over here, that is true, and they're not very like super populated.
Speaker 2:You could also just keep going north until it's too cold true, I I would say that I would go on one of like the more eastern or western like islands like that are closer to canada, and that would be like where I would hunt and stuff, and then I would take it back so I have to I have to uh interrupt this because our subscriber, your number one fan, uh, is in the chat.
Speaker 3:So he's worth a shout out because he definitely loves us and he says oh, where did you go?
Speaker 2:he said I miss glenn oh, he did.
Speaker 3:Uh, he said, or even even from oakland would be difficult. That was to our last conversation of getting to alcatraz from san francisco, but yeah, even oakland would be difficult. So, um what, what other plan would we have?
Speaker 1:so my only other thought would be the desert and my only thought there would be that maybe the heat would slow them down, but I think that just makes survival too difficult for humans right and I think it would just be better to go to the mountains or an island so washington has deserts.
Speaker 2:We got everything up here yeah, we have everything.
Speaker 3:You're kind of similar to arizona more than I thought I was so surprised with arizona that it has like something like 23 different climate zones.
Speaker 2:Damn arizona's cooking, though like they are on fire. There's like a large chunk of like greenery in it, but like we're green on one side and like saying well, they're other, they are too. They're green on the north, so like saying well, they are too.
Speaker 3:They're green on the North. So if you go up to the uh, the grand Canyon, it even even on a hot, hot day, and I'll give you the example. I went up there one day it was in October and I get to the grand Canyon and it was. I was dumb because I thought Arizona is Arizona and I'm like I'm in shorts and a t-shirt and I get out of the car and step out into the Grand Canyon. I'm like holy crap, it's cold up here. I was pretty chilly.
Speaker 3:I could have cut glass, if you know what I mean and uh so we, we hang out there, they have a museum, so that was cool because I was indoors, and then we get back in the car and we we go down South. So straight shot made it into Phoenix same same afternoon. We got to Grand Canyon in the morning, looked around, did a walk, a little bit of a hike, for probably about three hours ate, lunch went down, got into Phoenix probably by about four o'clock and it was like 114 degrees. So the swing in the same state from the Grand Canyon down to Phoenix was probably close to 40 degrees, 50 degrees probably 50 degrees.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's some diversity right there 60-something to 100-something and something 114. Yeah, it was ridiculous you guys hear, vegas was like 120.
Speaker 3:I heard that's crazy I heard, I wonder what baker was. Or, or, uh, death valley that's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1:That's see, those are when you say desert.
Speaker 3:That's kind of what I thought and I thought no effing way I'm not trying to survive in a desert it's too harsh.
Speaker 1:Um yeah, I think either islands or mountains would probably be your best bet.
Speaker 3:In a hole, though where you get in your water.
Speaker 2:You need a lot of water to survive an aquifer from what I know, what bear grails told me is that I can just drink my pee.
Speaker 3:So I'm not trusting that.
Speaker 1:I'm not trusting that. I heard that too. I am not trusting that. Also, if you use a LifeStraw from our Pinterest board, then, yeah, you'll be able to drink your own pee.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say that we might be responsible for some things.
Speaker 1:No, I mean you could. You shouldn't, but you could.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good save, good save, good save your honor, good save. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Let's talk our last topic let's talk zombies now.
Speaker 1:I think the most eye-opening one came from the night eats the world, uh-huh, and that's that zombies would more likely than not be silent, and that's pretty terrifying. So how do we feel about that? I think that's legit, because in most movies they're not.
Speaker 3:In most movies they're very loud, I think that's legit, and may I pair along with that the myth that you actually you, with none of your survival skills, actually brought up to me, I think.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Speaker 3:Which was, I believe you pointed out to me someone told you, but you pointed it out to me that all of the gunfire would have deafened you and that's why the zombies could have shambled up and surprised you and you'd never know Like it made sense after. I never would have thought that. I thought this is crap. I I was gonna say that's a myth, but I think the better way of doing it was the night eats the world which was they wouldn't make sense. They have no air in their lungs, they're not breathing, they're they're dead.
Speaker 2:If they're, if they're zombies and not infected, yes, it would probably be silent. If they're infected, let's go with, like last of us, infected, where they're still like alive, in like the early stages, then yeah, they're, they're screaming. But if it's like, I agree, dead, there's no air coming in, or out.
Speaker 1:I agree, um, I think them uh. One that we can really quickly agree on is zombies don't just eat brain, definitely that was only in return of the living dead. That was exclusively that movie as an add-on to that, do zombies eat for the necessity of eating, like in most zombie movies, or do they bite with the intention of spreading infection, like in world war z?
Speaker 1:I think they they eat out of instinct, not necessity so if they see another moving target, are they just in it for the, for the hunt? Because my thought process would be if there's two zombies eating a body and they're perfectly content eating that body and I walk by, are they going to try to get me or are they already satisfied? They're already eating? Are they more like an animal, as long as you're not invading on them if they see you in the distance?
Speaker 3:are they?
Speaker 1:going to chase you.
Speaker 3:No, they're not. They're not like. They're not like an animal in that, an animal, god. Let me say it this way Humans are animals, but we're animals with a soul. You take away our soul and what are we? We're just an animal that knows nothing about forgiveness, compassion, remorse, talk about. Look at how we are while we're alive, how greedy we are, how self-serving we are, and now take away any moral conscience and we're just machines of our instinct, of our basic, our most basis of instinct, which is eat, and I think I believe it would be anything they see, anything they hear, and wasteful, the way humans are, completely wasteful. Go to a Target, take a bite of it and oh, I hear something else. Go to that Target, take a bite of it.
Speaker 1:We waste everything. I don't think they're eating it. I thought you meant the store.
Speaker 3:I'm like they're eating the target dog.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're eating to be satiated. I think they're just eating to like that's left over.
Speaker 1:Because they're bored.
Speaker 2:That's leftover stuff in their brain from when they were alive.
Speaker 1:So they're just comfort eating zombies. Comfort eat is what we're getting at.
Speaker 2:They're there to like it's relatable. The virus says, hey, kill that thing.
Speaker 1:And your brain says, hey, I'm gonna eat that, so that you know and the virus is like whoa I didn't necessarily say eat and then your body's like nah, I did, we don't kill things to not eat them, unless they're like bugs, you know.
Speaker 2:And then people still eat bugs.
Speaker 1:So true, so kind of. Uh, I think the last thing I want to end us on is an interesting thing I saw. Would a headshot kill a zombie instantly, or would they kind of headless chicken it for a while?
Speaker 2:no gone done yeah, gone, because, yes, people have lived like from gunshots to the head, you know, but like it still shuts down parts of the brain. So if you're aiming for the part of the brain that's still like alive in quotations, then it's just going to instantly shut that off like in the walking dead. It's only like here, like right at the base of the brainstem that's alive.
Speaker 1:So if you're, if you're shooting, like their entire thing off now, let's say, the bullet enters in right here in the forehead right right here on the side of the forehead and it's possible to miss the brain.
Speaker 3:Well, let's say, the bullet enters in right here in the forehead, right, right here on the side of the forehead. It's possible to miss the brain.
Speaker 1:Well, let's say it hits the brain but it only destroys, like the front half. But let's use walking dead logic and it's only this back part that's active. If it destroys the front half of the brain, is it still walking? I think it's possible. It might.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Because a living person could go through that.
Speaker 1:What so it might? Yeah, because, because a living person could go through that. What if it nearly headless nicks it and it's definitely almost decapitated, definitely hanging on by a string. We've seen that before.
Speaker 3:Um, oh my god, what movie was that? What movie was that? The zombie was walking with no head and the person was like what the heck they were like. It went to investigate and then all of a sudden it flips its head up and bites them. I think that was a return. What the heck they were like went to investigate and then all of a sudden it flips its head up and bites them. I think that was a return of the living dead, but it was still a cool trick. So I think they would live with the neck cut. But the what?
Speaker 1:about full decapitation? No, do you think? The head?
Speaker 3:is still. Oh yeah, no, I think the head is still chomping.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think the head is still chomping, but if brain is destroyed no, yeah, no, because if we're going Walking Dead rules, brain does still like, head still chomps if it's off. Right, because they showed that with the governor's head collection. Yep.
Speaker 1:Yep For sure. So I think, to sum up, blunt weapons not ideal. We're thinking sharp weapons like katanas, yep, and probably probably not close range sharp weapons, necessarily, like, probably not kitchen knives, uh, because of the possibility of being infected, although blood will probably not be as big of a deal with actual dead zombies as long as they're not infected like, uh, 28 days later, nails with baseball bats, which was a big one I wanted to talk about, not no go, oh, we didn't talk about. Okay, really quick chainsaws, effective or no?
Speaker 2:definitely, but you're getting infected, yeah definitely you're okay chucking everything at you. You know for sure you're gonna get covered we moved on to food, water and gas.
Speaker 1:Gas, uh, to be determined if you can make it yourself, but probably not very easily and does not have as you would think it does, right, uh. And then we talked about mostly we talked about different ways to get power, like, uh, wind and solar and kind of ineffective uses of that but, and water, but possibilities. Shelters, I think we determined either islands or mountains would be the best way to go. You two seem to agree. Islands I kind of like the idea of a mountain a little better islands or farmhouse with the trench uh, yeah, farmhouse with the trench, that's right.
Speaker 1:and then rocket fuel to burn the bodies, and then zombies would most likely be silent.
Speaker 2:Don't eat brains Infected. They're probably not going to be silent, that's true. Infected, they'd be normal and lots of us they're in pain and they're screaming at you, and then a headless zombie could still bite. I think those are all and the last of us.
Speaker 1:they're in pain and they're screaming at you. And then a headless zombie could still bite, I think those are all the main key points to point out.
Speaker 2:What if you line your weapon with zombie teeth for people?
Speaker 1:what if you keep zombie heads on stakes in front of your compound so that they're constantly like ah oh, zombie heads on stakes in front of your compound so that they're constantly like oh, that's pretty vicious kind of wild that's pretty vicious right there that might work. You'd have to have balls of steel to keep walking through. That we could do it, tj yeah we could.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is crazy for our compound.
Speaker 1:In the future we'll have to have some trees surrounding the property, so let me Please wear bike gloves while you do that.
Speaker 3:I know this is going a little long here, but I got to say I think that's a great idea and what we could do is set them up via tripwires Right, so they're hanging there in what would be like a harness Straight up home alone in what would be like a harness Straight up Home Alone. Yeah, they would be like in a harness right, and then somebody trips it and the zombie comes down and is like right in your face.
Speaker 1:This is what I needed when I was talking about Home Alone traps in our Scenarios episode. We needed zombie heads falling via tripwire.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't even do the zombie heads dude, I would do full zombies in harnesses. Ooh, we can do like in.
Speaker 2:Vietnam when they have the traps where you fall, we can have zombie heads, Zombies. They fall through and then they get their leg bit.
Speaker 1:Oh, dang, Wow, we are coming up with some real inhumane brutal ways God dang guys, this is getting gnarly. All right. Well, we might need a whole episode of just an episode that never gets released, because it's just too much okay, so here's the, here's the the top line.
Speaker 3:Can we get another drum roll okay? Uh tj who won the episode?
Speaker 1:okay, drum roll. No, I'm kidding. I think this episode, even though I think you started with minus two points, I think tj won this episode because let's go because I agree with him on the sharp weapons thing and he was the first one to bring that up. And what was the oh man? Now it feels bad because I forgot the main reason that I was picking you. What?
Speaker 3:was it for.
Speaker 1:Oh, it was the farmhouse trench with rocket fuel oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, but you didn't answer my question. Nobody answered my question on that. How are? You giving him points for that. What do you mean? Well, because nobody answered my question on that. How are you giving him?
Speaker 1:points for that. Who won the? What do you mean? Well, because the whole uh trench with rocket fuel. How are you lighting it? It's not gonna just light with a match. Step on it really hard, oh my god oh my god, I've been gypped?
Speaker 3:no, I have been gypped.
Speaker 1:I think he just won it for his fucking heads dropping via heads hanging in the forest. That is, that's win worthy, right there.
Speaker 2:Dude the freaking like Vietnam, you freaking step on something your foot goes through.
Speaker 1:There are little thing biters, you know you would never have to worry about raiders trying to raid your place.
Speaker 3:OK, I feel validated now because our sub agrees with you. The head's idea is boss level.
Speaker 2:That's worse than Bill in the Last of Us dude that's bad.
Speaker 1:That's going to spread nightmare stories to every survivor in the area.
Speaker 3:Don't fucking go in that forest, especially if there's nothing worth it right, like if you keep everything concealed in your farmhouse. There's nothing worth it.
Speaker 1:Don't go over there, don't risk it. That's the best advice. Yeah, wow, I think we found out how we're surviving the zombie apocalypse all right, tj, you're gonna.
Speaker 3:We're gonna have to make our way out to uh the midwest and find ourselves a farmhouse.
Speaker 1:So who's collecting the heads?
Speaker 2:I'll have my kukuri, he'll have his.
Speaker 3:We'll have heads. I've got my kukuri Heads will be fell.
Speaker 1:We'll get head.
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