Will You Survive... The Podcast
Immerse yourself in the world of cinema as we embark on a journey to equip you with the skills to tackle any disaster head-on. Through the lens of thrilling tales, particularly those of the zombie apocalypse, we'll unravel the secrets of preparedness. Join us as we explore the silver screen to empower you for the challenges that lie ahead.
Will You Survive... The Podcast
Will You Survive "Flu": Pandemic Realities and Cinema Survival Tactics
Ever wonder how you'd fare in a real-world pandemic, like the ones in films? Join us, Alex, Erik, and TJ, as we take a detour from zombie lore to dissect the harrowing Korean movie "The Flu." We're breaking down the gripping performances and discussing Ma Dong-Seok's incredible range as an actor, from his roles in "Train to Busan" to "Eternals." More than a review, we’re exploring the survival tactics depicted in the film and sharing our chuckles over the sometimes over-the-top heroics.
Let's get real about pandemic preparedness and responses—this isn't just movie magic. We're sharing firsthand how cultures differ in crisis, like South Korea's unique challenges seen in "Flu," and comparing them to our personal anecdotes from the COVID-19 pandemic. You'll hear our take on the controversial choices characters make, the societal behaviors under duress, and the odd places you might find essential supplies. Plus, we'll tackle that one scene in the film that's bound to get everyone talking, without spoiling the plot, of course.
Ending on a note as serious as the topic itself, we delve into the dark past of sanatoriums and relate the difficult decisions they faced to those in "Flu." We're not shying away from the tough discussions—government actions, leadership in crisis, and the complex nature of high-stress decision-making. And for those survival enthusiasts, we've curated something special on Pinterest—gear recommendations that could make all the difference in an emergency. Tune in for a conversation that's as thought-provoking as it is entertaining, and who knows, you might just come away more prepared for whatever the world throws our way.
Hello survivors and welcome back to another episode of Will you Survive.
Speaker 2:The Podcast.
Speaker 1:I'm your host today. I'm Alex and I'm joined by my two co-hosts.
Speaker 2:I'm Eric and I'm TJ.
Speaker 1:And today we are discussing a little off-topic from our norm, from my norm. I typically enjoy the zombie subgenre, but this time I went pandemic. Uh, this was just a flu, if you will, and that was the name of the movie the flu. What did you guys think?
Speaker 3:solid eight out of ten yeah, I actually agree, that was a very well-made movie eight out of ten you say yep.
Speaker 1:so for all of our survivors. If you don't know, this was a Korean movie. It came out in 2013. Let me just read you a little storyline here.
Speaker 1:The worst epidemic ever seen is sweeping through Bundang, the suburb of Seoul. After smuggling illegal immigrants into the country, byung-woo dies from an unknown virus. Soon after that, the same symptoms are plaguing scores of residents in Bundang. People are helpless against the airborne disease and the number of infected increases, quickly spreading chaos as the worst-case scenario. Precaution the city of half a million people, just 19 kilometers from Seoul, is about to be sealed off. The government orders a complete shutdown to be sealed off. The government orders a complete shutdown. Meanwhile, infectious disease specialist In-Hai and rescue worker Ji-Goo go into the closed city to find the blood serum of the index case, a crucial part of developing the vaccine, and I think that pretty much covers the whole story. I think this was a fantastic movie. I am being very turned over into the uh, the korean genre because I'm loving what they're doing with these movies yeah, and that one actor, that one dude who is apparently in like every korean movie ever made for us who is also so?
Speaker 2:yeah, do you really all the time?
Speaker 3:he's so versatile. I had no idea that that was him until he was shouting let's go infect soul and I was like wait, that guy looks so familiar.
Speaker 1:See, it was funny to me because I didn't notice it until I saw his credit. Once I saw the cast and I saw his name, I was like oh my goodness. And just because it's a standout name John Gu Kwan I knew I was like dude, that's the guy, that's my hero from Train to Busan.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he made me hate him this movie.
Speaker 1:And such a good actor for that, because I didn't recognize him number one and number two. I hated him so much while he was doing the March on Seoul.
Speaker 2:Also his name is Ma Dong Suk suk. Uh, he was in the eternals movie for from the mcu, which is what my wife just pointed out which one, uh, eternals, he was gilgamesh oh, interesting.
Speaker 1:I'm not familiar with many of the marvels.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah I bring that nerd shit to the podcast. You know me. That's what I here for. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1:And, by the way, you have to look at his IMDb picture if you ever get a chance. He's just, it's freaking hilarious. My dangsook. He's giving a thumbs up, cheesy smile, but he's a buff dude, so oh yeah, yeah, I'm seeing it. I might reserve telling him that to his face, although you know he listens.
Speaker 3:So oh yeah, you know, every major celebrity listens.
Speaker 1:They do survive and especially after we covered train to busan he was a big fan of ours.
Speaker 3:You you know. His manager was like hey, you gotta check this out just for legal purposes.
Speaker 1:This is all satire.
Speaker 3:No, I'm serious.
Speaker 1:Okay, so some things that I would bring up regarding the survival aspect of the flu as it went down. I like the premise of this movie because you as a citizen are unsuspecting. You no warning, of course, because this was human trafficking. That's what was going on that brought this into the country. So all of a sudden, it starts in the hospital, which I think you know.
Speaker 3:That's probably where it's going to start, anything like this I was trying to think, like how do you even not get infected in the beginning? And I really think this is kind of like the zombie situation where it's honestly at best 50 50 odds that you just happen to make it through the initial like I guess, crisis or crash or whatever I.
Speaker 1:I mean, how else can you put it?
Speaker 3:because um our guy the rescue worker, um man, he really, he threw that title around a lot, yeah, yeah. And the emergency response team emergency response team.
Speaker 2:I have to save people. It's what I do it's what I did.
Speaker 3:There were so many, you know, like I was reading the subtitles and I'm like I know that's not an exact translation, I guarantee you this is like the most cheesy thing a korean dude could say in this moment. Like that's the vibe I got every time he said I'm part of the emergency response team. Every time he said that I'm like man, that had to be super cheesy in Korean.
Speaker 1:What do you think the equivalent in English would be? I know what I think it would be.
Speaker 2:Firefighters.
Speaker 3:It'd be like don't worry, I'm here to help, or something.
Speaker 1:Some stupid like okay, dude, don't worry, I'm here to help, or something some stupid like okay, dude, so I think if I was throwing around a title, right, I think the cheesiest way to throw down that title would be no, don't worry, I'm a first responder.
Speaker 3:Yeah, or something like that, where you're like, okay Isn't that kind of lame Like.
Speaker 1:I think, that might be the closest thing that you could say, but I did notice that he really was fond of himself for being an emergency response team member.
Speaker 2:I mean, he backed it up though. That's what I was going to say he was in there, no matter what the fuck was happening. He's like I got to save people.
Speaker 3:Exactly. At least he wasn't just all talk, at least he was willing to put his life down, even so far as to call himself number 2066 yeah he was willing to to die for that little girl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, there were so many parts in this movie that just had my blood boiling. I know there was one that we'll get to that. Oh man, I I actually yelled a little in our living room because that made me so mad. But this particular moment where, um, they were still new to the camp and his friend I forget his name, but his friend was telling him like oh, are you so obsessed with this girl? And he's like it's, it's nothing like that. He goes yeah, no, I know you too well, it's about that. He's like dude, it's not fucking like that, like knock it off. It's not fucking like that. Like knock it off, it's not a joke. Like that had me mad where I'm like, dude, you're in a literal concentration camp and I don't know man, I feel like you got to have a little more social awareness there.
Speaker 1:Well, there were a couple of things I thought like they did really really well.
Speaker 3:And, frankly speaking, the fact that this came out in 2013 and we all went through 2020, it was so ahead of its time.
Speaker 1:How fast everybody turned against each other, like neighbors against neighbors. You know you're you're infected, you know you've got to be, you've got to be quarantined. Well, yeah, the government needs to come in and take you away, like the attitude change of everybody. And then the attitude of all of those who were quarantined, when they, of course, rose up and can't say overthrew, but overtook and escaped, right, and they wanted to march on Seoul.
Speaker 3:Well, they overthrew. They overthrew the camp.
Speaker 1:Well, the camp, but not like I didn't. I didn't want to confuse. Like they didn't overthrow the government. They just they escaped the camp and, and you know, the government was kind of waiting for them. But so one of the things that I look at it, that is, you know, without our personal experience, which is impossible to do now if we were in 2019 and you were looking at this movie, would you think there was any possibility of this happening in the United States? I mean, I know this was Korea.
Speaker 2:I mean like when did the Ebola thing happen? Like that was pretty, that was 2013.
Speaker 3:That was pretty fucked yeah that was about then. But, there were no lockdowns ironically that was very isolated, that was just Dallas.
Speaker 1:And the funny thing about that is Ebola has a 50% kill rate. Yeah, and they didn't% kill rate.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they didn't lock anybody down.
Speaker 3:No, well, because they caught it very early and it was like it was one case that I that I know. I think it was just one case in a hospital that freaked everybody out because they're like, holy shit, we have a case of Ebola in the US and then, and then nothing ever came from, thankfully.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I also have the number 13 in my head somewhere. So maybe like whoops, maybe like 13 people died or so I don't know, but it wasn't. It was very isolated and we were able to catch it very early on.
Speaker 1:So with the strict measures that they took, the thing that, and just because I had, oh, go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Um, um, I in the us it's kind of tough, because I I would hope that we would be a little more hesitant to literally walking into a concentration camp, because that's exactly what that was, and I would hope that we'd have enough general basic knowledge of world war ii to know that you shouldn't just go walking into a concentration camp no matter what the government tells you it's for right.
Speaker 1:So then, I guess one of the things that would be important to discuss survival wise is what would you do if your home, you're hearing about all of this? Um, let's say, you're in, you're in Bundang and you're seeing people all around you get deathly ill. What, what measures do you take?
Speaker 3:Six feet Okay that wow, yeah, well, you'd be immune. Then you would never get it six feet that would just cover it okay stand back dude six feet. You know, if all these people just stood six feet apart, none of this would have happened and you, really, you didn't even buy toilet paper.
Speaker 1:You're, you're fucked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't done tj I didn't see one person with toilet paper in that grocery store. I although they clearly don't know how to really handle a pandemic.
Speaker 1:I really hope somebody is uh from korea or has experience in korea, but I believe that's because uh bidets are far more common out there okay, well, that would make sense, but what about the hand soap? Oh, no hand soap, no sanitizer that's crazy that the fact that it's no wonder why so many people got infected exactly dude those filthy.
Speaker 2:No, I'm kidding the real reason everybody got infected was because nobody was covering their mouth with their freaking elbow or something did they not learn that in? Like fucking preschool, like I did. Like, if you're gonna sneeze or cough or like that, you know.
Speaker 3:Like the whole first 20 minutes I was literally thinking does no one know how to cover their mouth in Korea?
Speaker 1:Let me tell you guys something, because I am significantly older than you both. I did not. I did not learn cough in your elbow until about 2002, when it became a common thing in the restaurant that is so crazy that that has not always been a thing, not always. It was always innate cover your mouth with your hands and then wash your hands.
Speaker 2:Dude was in that pharmacy fucking coughing on. Everybody turned to the little girl was like I'm a cough on you, like what are? What are you doing? Yeah, he's like oh, hey, kid.
Speaker 3:Right, I mean, but we also do not know how viruses spread.
Speaker 1:I also know that these two guys are complete dicks. Right, these two are especially the fucking one older brother, no, the younger brother.
Speaker 2:I feel like fucking hated him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, I think the younger guy was kind of just peer pressure dragged along by his brother. Because I definitely see, because he was gonna buy him.
Speaker 1:What was he gonna buy him?
Speaker 3:he said uh, michael jordan, my air force yeah air jordans.
Speaker 1:That was it, and uh, but I mean, come on, seriously. Well, okay, all right, so, but but you know in, in reality, do you think you saw the city right? We saw how tight packed everything was. Do you even think that hunkering down? Hey, cover your mouth, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3:Do you even think that?
Speaker 1:you can isolate in your apartment and get away from this thing.
Speaker 2:It's clearly airborne. It depends on a lot of factors. Have you been around people you know? But if you like haven't been around people you know, you've been inside you know for like the past week or whatever. Fuck, yeah, you could just, you know, stay inside, but like you're gonna run out of stuff eventually.
Speaker 3:So the best way is to like prepare well, that's why it's important to be prepared for this yeah, always be prepared for it so like this would be a good example of the second you hear something like this is happening hunkering down, filling up your bathtub, filling up your sinks and just getting ready because I mean, at least this virus was killing in 48 hours, as crappy as that sounds, because that's incredibly dangerous and it pretty much means if you get it you're dead. But if you don't get it, then you know okay, I can wait two weeks and this thing will kill itself out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's a good point. Right, because it was so fast. You knew you had symptoms within 48 hours. Right, and you were dead within 48 hours. I'm sorry, you knew you had symptoms in the first 24 hours and so something like that. You're absolutely right. You hunker down. All you got to last is 72 hours. You can hunker down for two weeks. The odds are you've gotten past the major infection rate. So that takes me back right, because one of the things I remembered during the whole outbreak of COVID was I went to the grocery store, I went to Smart and Final and it was so bizarre because you guys, everybody we joke about it now but everybody was getting toilet paper and paper towels and stuff.
Speaker 3:Right, it was all sold out, up and down all of those aisles, and I mean, we had my cousin who was a manager at Smart and Final, who was like our dealer.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah.
Speaker 3:Supplying us with the first grabs of toilet paper and hand sanitizer.
Speaker 1:But well, the other thing was, I could get it from Home Depot. Nobody knew Home Depot sold toilet paper and paper towels.
Speaker 3:Oh, and didn't like Virgil's. The hardware store sold eggs. Virgil's Hardware Store, yeah, which was another thing that was going on a lot. Well, not until later.
Speaker 1:But, like, the first thing I did was I went and I grabbed a whole boatload of canned goods which nobody was touching canned goods and frozen meat. As I'm walking through, I just remember the looks of people at me when they're looking at my cart and I don't know if it was like this guy's stupid or if it's like fuck, why didn't I get shit like that?
Speaker 2:because later I went back and then all the canned goods were cleared off of the shelf and I was like okay, well, everybody caught on eventually so you're the reason that all there was no canned food or nothing.
Speaker 1:It's your fault I hope so you showed these dumb asses. I hope it was all my fault, more secretive about it? Yeah, you should have been like hey, I want to check out in fault.
Speaker 3:You should have been more secretive about it, yeah. You should have been like hey, I want to check out in the back you should have gotten toilet paper and circled your entire cart with it and hid the canned goods in the center. That they would have never known. You're like, I'm one of you, no, so you're the reason there was a shortage.
Speaker 1:So there was something that happened in this movie that I'm jumping over a lot of stuff, but it's worth it because this was a controversial. Take here Was when they were in our main character here, Kang Jikoo, when he was in the stadium where they were putting all of the bodies and you saw how many people including our protagonist, little girl there were live people in there and they were supposed to all be dead oh yeah, right, they were telling everybody that they were.
Speaker 3:They were taking care of the bodies, but look at how they were doing it so I was so conflicted because when I saw them using the crane to lift like 20, 30 bodies at once, I was like wow, that's so fucking inhumane. Like I get you gotta mass burn these dead bodies but like, at least have some sort of human, anything like this feels completely inhumane. And then to find out that not all of them were even dead right, they were dropping those bodies like 20 feet, which is another thing. How the hell did the girl, how is she okay?
Speaker 1:presumably she got lifted by the crane I assumed there was a little bit of plot armor there. Um, she had to have been on the top and when it dropped her. She fell on top of these other bodies, but I mean she was pretty wrecked right, kids are durable.
Speaker 3:She was also wrapped in plastic.
Speaker 1:She was wrapped in plastic. They are durable. Kids are very bendy. But that brings up like uh, there was a um in colorado. There was a sanatorium that had transformed. Well, it wasn't a sanatorium at first and it got turned into a death house. It was from tuberculosis and the amount of people who were dying there was so numerous that they ended up using a body chute to remove the bodies from the ward. They didn't have enough room in the morgue so they would just drop the bodies down this chute. So it's kind of like when you, when you say that the inhumane handling of human remains was it's not uncommon, you know, when it becomes that numerous it's just like you gotta get rid of the bodies I think the chute's a really good idea.
Speaker 2:You know, one last slide before you're gone.
Speaker 3:You know you're like and if you're still not fully dead, at least you get to enjoy a nice little slide where it won't kill you.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, there was probably so many people that weren't dead yet and so that.
Speaker 3:So that was kind of what I was getting. I was so back and forth because I saw them using the crane and I was like, wow, that's completely inhumane. And then you see the aerial shot of just how many bodies there were right, and then I was like, well, I kind of see it. And then I see them burning the bodies, and then you find out that they're not all dead and I'm like, well, no, now there's no grounds for that now it's even worse.
Speaker 1:Now you're burning people alive yeah, alive. You have to admit that. I mean coming out of survival mode, going into movie review mode. This director really messed you up, didn't he?
Speaker 2:Oh, the last 20 minutes was stressing me. The fuck out, right.
Speaker 1:Kim Sung-soo, he would get you. I mean, you said it, I felt it. I mean you said exactly what I felt when I watched this was I was on both sides, so fast from scene to scene. I was pro-government, then I was anti-government. I was, I was pro-government, then I was anti-government, then I was pro-government again and I was just like, oh my god, this is freaking great, it's good intentions, horribly executed, because the whole like control them now, explain later.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, you can't. You can't do that when you when't do that. When you run a communist country, sure, but when you run a democratic country, you can't do that.
Speaker 1:We kill. We're going to kill 200,000 people or let 200,000 people die to preserve over a million people.
Speaker 3:Also the arrogance of these fucking officials to just completely disregard the doctor every step of the way. Who's trying to tell them you are killing everybody? Every and the complete lack of accountability from them all the way. The same one saying we'll take full responsibility for it, or the same one's going oh how did this happen? Because the doctor said it would happen. You did it anyways. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:no, was, that's another good point. So okay, there's the point we already kind of talked about. It was for us. We're, we're not the I can't imagine us being you know little kid anymore. But you're that little kid I'm. I'm curious of what you guys think I thought plot armor. She's wrapped in plastic completely head to toe. It's. You're that little kid. I'm curious of what you guys think I thought plot armor. She's wrapped in plastic completely head to toe. It's not like her head was out. Oh yeah, she's completely wrapped in plastic and she was picked up by that crane and dropped, and the fact that he was able to find her in all of this, I mean, well, she was in the vibrant pink plastic jumpsuit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Also didn't like what her phone was going off or something her phone was going off because her mom was calling how the hell was it hearing that?
Speaker 3:well, that was also like how did she hear the daughter in the supermarket?
Speaker 1:yeah it was kind of like mom ears yeah it's like mom instincts I mean I get that because I've seen, I've seen my wife do that, where it's like, do you hear that? No, what? And then I come back and I hear, oh, my son was way up in bed.
Speaker 2:And he wasn't crying.
Speaker 1:He was just up and he made noise and she heard it. She said that to me too.
Speaker 3:There was a time where, apparently, Ann was talking to her from her bedroom and Corinne was in the kitchen and she was like what? I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:like I didn't hear it. I'm like, what are you?
Speaker 3:doing. She was like why? And I'm like what the fuck is she talking about? She starts walking away and she goes why? And then I hear and I'm like holy shit, I, nothing was happening, the microwave wasn't on, I didn't have earbuds in nothing. I just did not hear that she's got mom here.
Speaker 1:So I mean that one, that one, but this one we all agree. Plot armor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the little girl was underneath bodies, which meant they got dumped on her. Yeah, that's a lot of weight Now granted, she's sick, she's completely limp, right.
Speaker 1:So going into we'll say anecdotal, nonsensical evidence here, it's drunk limp people in car accidents that survive, right. They don't react, they don't tense up, they don't do anything. They're the ones who survive. The people who are sober and aware are typically the ones who pay the price.
Speaker 3:But not when you're wrapped in plastic. I think you suffocate just the same that part.
Speaker 1:I think it doesn't matter. Well, the only rationale I tried to make for myself was, when you're that sick, typically your heart rate speeds up and your respiratory speeds up right, but if you're unconscious— Shallow breathing it's shallow breathing, yeah, and your body does start slowing down and stuff like that. But because she was near death, right, so that was. That was the case there.
Speaker 3:Now she was getting better. She'd already gotten shot by then, no, I thought it was right. After that, no, no, before that they separated her after she'd gotten the antibodies, and then they got rid of her.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're right, You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3:She was already getting better.
Speaker 1:Right, that's right.
Speaker 3:Just makes it even worse. It just means like she definitely would not have survived that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I agree, plot armor there.
Speaker 1:Plot armor there.
Speaker 2:I could survive it.
Speaker 1:But you know any, any normal person definitely want to survive that Would you be amongst that crowd marching to Seoul, do you think?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:If you're sick. You're sick and the government is telling you, fuck you, you're going to die, are you going to say, fuck you, we're going to infect all the rest of the country. And then what are you going to do?
Speaker 3:No, because what?
Speaker 1:did the rest of the country? Do I mean? Can I argue against that? I would say they're abandoning us.
Speaker 3:Okay. But so here's the thing. This is where you got to put away emotion and use a little logic. This thing, from what they said, had a 50% chance to infect and pretty much a 100% lethality besides that one guy. So you know, if you get this, you're dead, that's it. Why do that to the rest of korea? What did they do if? I all I would be pissed about is the camp that was completely uncalled for and not okay and just a complete violation of human rights, that that's a straight up nazi camp. That's what that was. But once I escaped that and the stadium right and the stadium.
Speaker 3:That's what I mean killing people who were alive so once I escaped that and that camp has been overthrown, I'm going home.
Speaker 1:Fuck that do you justify at all their decision to kill those people who were still alive, knowing that it's virtually a hundred percent kill rate?
Speaker 2:yeah, they're saying like like we know.
Speaker 1:We know you're not dead yet. I mean mean to make it lighthearted. This is kind of like Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Have you guys seen that?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That bring out. Your dead bring out. But I'm not dead. Oh, you will be soon. Stop whining, Right.
Speaker 3:I mean it's I was thinking about that. It's tough because I understand that you have to separate yourself from that. You have to separate your like that one guy, uh, when he said like this guy's still alive and he's like he's gonna be dead soon see, I, I, I completely agree.
Speaker 1:But where I struggle is when I'm sick. I'm not rational.
Speaker 3:I'm not rational when I'm sick yeah, and I know that about myself. What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1:I mean like like I've withstood serious trauma, serious pain, serious injury and come out of it fine, and then I catch a little flu and all of a sudden I allow the games to be played in my head of oh my God, is this, what am I ever going to get better? And I used to get sick and put on track suit and go for a run and I'm talking like I used to get a hundred and 101, 102 degree fever and I'd put on a track suit and run. Right now, I can't imagine getting out of bed, am I? How? How is it so much worse now, you know 23, 24 years older? Damn how, how am I so messed up that?
Speaker 3:you're right, you really hit him with the damn I expect nothing less.
Speaker 1:I mean, I am 24 years old.
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Speaker 1:So you know, one thing that this brings up is there are certain ways that you can make your own like respirator. Typically, you can't make something good enough to filter out viruses without suffocating yourself if you're not like precise on this, but there are. This was something funny for me. Me was there are things that you can order. You can't buy them in the store anymore, but you can order them from home depot.
Speaker 1:They remove, uh, very tiny, microscopic particulates and it's for like cleaning out like asbestos and stuff, right uh and and more, like cleaning mold, like when you're when you gotta go and clean out a moldy room, right, you break down drywall. You don't want to be in that room unless you have full protection.
Speaker 3:You're covering your hair, you're covering your eyes, your nose, your mouth how do we feel about those super freaking cool masks that they had dude?
Speaker 2:I brought that up. I fucking love dude those were cool why don't we have those? Where the fuck were those at during covid bro?
Speaker 3:we had all the I would have worn that. I would if that was what they brought out. I would have worn that because that actually seems like it might protect. It would have worked.
Speaker 2:There were three types like that was in covid it was the guy people with the cloth masks with like you know the you know n95 ones, or they had like the neck gator things. It would go over your shit and it really was like micro thin there was. But if those were a thing, I think it'd be kind of badass.
Speaker 1:If we had those, I feel like everybody would do those and that was what I had thought was so good about this movie was. This is what would actually call for that kind of response.
Speaker 3:Yes, see, a lot of the COVID shit that we had would be completely 1000% justified in this situation, and more would be justified.
Speaker 1:And it was. This was I think it was. I don't like using the word scary, but it was so ominous because it's airborne. It's nearly 100% fatal. I mean 99, clearly, because the guy survived and then the kid with the vaccine survived. So still not a hundred percent fatal, but damn near close it was. If the virus didn't kill you, the government was going to. Now I want to get to the part that you were talking about, when all of the government agents are now making the decision to just exterminate all of the, the.
Speaker 1:What can we call them rebels?
Speaker 3:so kind of yeah, that one, so that one congressman tj the old dude who overrode?
Speaker 2:the president yeah, long head.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, yeah, I'm gonna start calling him that wow good actor, but what pissed me off the most in this whole movie it made my blood boil was he overrode, the president gave the order to fire on the civilians and then, while they had monitors in that room observing what was happening, and while all those innocent people were getting murdered by his order, he had his back turned and his hands and his head in his hands. Yep, don't you dare look away. I, that made my blood boil. I I cannot believe you would have the fucking. What a coward yep to turn your back away from what you just did yep, live with your fucking decision, homie yeah, their whole fucking.
Speaker 3:We'll take full responsibility for it. Then take responsibility and look.
Speaker 2:You're going to cause all these other fucking people nightmares. You better fucking look and give yourself some.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Every single innocent life you better take responsibility for. That blood is on your hands. That, oh man, that made my blood boil.
Speaker 1:That was. But I mean, you're right, that was great acting, Great writing. Because I was so freaking pissed too. I hated that guy so much and I mean again back and forth, Right, I felt like such a hypocrite during this movie because I hated the president so much because he was. He seemed so damn weak.
Speaker 3:And I just kept getting convinced by them. When I'm like you had it, dude, I'm gonna say you had the right response and then you let them influence.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say it tj, such a pussy waffle. Yeah, he really was he just he just waffled back and forth back until the end, until the end.
Speaker 3:But now we have to talk about the american cia guy well, I mean, I made that up. I don't know that he's cia but I had to be we can, he's a plain suit american and uh yeah, snyder sucked snyder gave america a bad name so my bring up your point, because then it's fucking hilarious my point that I had uh made.
Speaker 1:When the americans call in these fighter jets into seoul, uh, they're screeching at at high speeds. I'm not so confident that north korea would not have seen that as an act of aggression. Uh, there's no. There's no guarantee that they're going to just stop at Seoul and redirect their pollen ass into the country. Why are they there? What are they doing? Not only that, but you have another act of aggression if there is this deadly flu and you did not warn North Korea. Hey, we have this problem. North Korea, hey, we have this problem. We're going to try to take care of it. Because, frankly speaking, if they really wanted to do this diplomatically, I would have told the North Koreans hey, we have this problem, do you want to take care of it? I mean, at least in that case you're not killing your own people. North Koreans are killing them. But that's just my cold heartedness.
Speaker 2:They should start charging. See, they're like we gotta go to seoul, go towards north korea, charge the dmz?
Speaker 1:yeah, charge the fucking dmz, bro. Yeah. But but then nobody would have cared, because north korea would have opened fire on them and like yeah, and then it would have just not mattered yeah, that kind of is just what it is.
Speaker 3:That would happen anyways right, but your point is that those jets had to come from somewhere, which means that there was um, where did they come from?
Speaker 1:how did they come in the peninsula?
Speaker 3:there's no way. You're so right. There's no way north korea wouldn't have seen all of our aircraft carriers pulling up, and there's no way. They would have just been like yeah, that's fine, but that would have been world war three for movie going experience.
Speaker 1:I absolutely loved that's when the president got his balls when he had said I still have control over the military, don't I? Yes sir, you do. I want you to get your Super State Air missiles ready and I want you to down those airplanes if they enter Korean airspace. You can't do that, I just did korean airspace.
Speaker 3:You can't do that, I just did it. That was the first time where I'm like no, fucking tell him, what are we doing there? What are we doing? Yep, and then and that to you know what. You won't handle it, so we'll kill your citizens for you what?
Speaker 1:well, the the argument he had made was it was a part of the uh peace treaty with north Korea.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That was the argument he had made. Right, you have to do this because if they infect Seoul now, that virus is getting so close to the DMZ. And what are you going to do when North Korea gets wind of all of this? So it was the argument could be made, but nonetheless it's ridiculous that we would even be over there.
Speaker 2:When fucking President Fuckass finally pulled through, Mr CIA man was like if this goes wrong, I'm going to tell the UN on you, Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shut up. What a little baby You're going to tell dad Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1:You're lucky you didn't get fucking arrested for real, I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tell dad, I'm tell dad on you, I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna have to submit the what, what did he say? The highest complaint? Yep like, oh my god k get out of here.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:What the fuck.
Speaker 1:You think I care.
Speaker 3:Like what.
Speaker 1:So again still on movie review mode here. What did you think of the little girl?
Speaker 3:She was a very good actress.
Speaker 1:I freaking. I was just melting over her when she was screaming don't shoot my mom, don't shoot me, and she's like standing in front of her protecting her, which, come on, we all know that was serious plot armor that she got hit in the arm oh man, I thought that little girl was gonna die I did too, so many times I thought the little girl was gonna die.
Speaker 2:That's how stressed out the whole fucking time. Dude, she's so cute. I wanted to squeeze her little cheeks. She's so fucking cute.
Speaker 1:I know I'm telling you, just like the girl from Train to Busan, those tears that these kids can summon up.
Speaker 3:It's not the same actress, is it?
Speaker 1:I don't think that was the same actress. No, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 3:I didn't look. She was incredible, very good actress.
Speaker 1:I think you guys bring up some really good points that that shattered my belief of how I would survive this thing. Now I will say this if I'm the emergency response team member, for some reason he never got infected. He was around everybody who was infected. He had a neck gear. He was around everybody who was infected?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he had a neck ear.
Speaker 1:He was okay, so that was good. Maybe a little bit of plot armor for our guy.
Speaker 3:I think just a little bit, but like because he took that cloth off his face a lot.
Speaker 2:They all had Especially around the little girl. The mom. He met the mom after she almost fucking dove into a giant pit with her car and she survived.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:They all it's genetic plot armor for the mom and the little girl.
Speaker 1:Which, by the way, I'm not tripping right, but that whole thing became irrelevant.
Speaker 3:Her flash drive and all of that.
Speaker 1:Everything was dead right.
Speaker 3:It was just a way for them to have met beforehand.
Speaker 2:That's kind of what I thought, and then meet after you know yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, so any final thoughts of our movie here, I would give this movie an A tier.
Speaker 3:I'd give it an A tier. Yeah, that was a really good movie. You said B tier before, but I think you undersold it.
Speaker 1:Well, I just. We have a lot of movies in in uh S tier and A tier, but I, I think it's it rivals the A tiers, definitely. So, uh, all of you survivors out there, take a look at 2013. Flu, I don't have an original name was gamji um. Take a look at it. If you understand korean, you should watch it in the original, because the subtitles kind of suck in english.
Speaker 3:I did that weird. I did that thing that I think everybody does with foreign films, where I stopped looking at my phone for like 20 seconds and I was doing something and then after a while I realized I don't speak korean.
Speaker 1:I have no idea what they were saying. But to all of you survivors, go check out Flu. Let us know what you think and tell us will you survive. And until next time, stay alive. There you go Now. We also didn't hit him with the socials.
Speaker 2:Okay, so cut all of this right, okay, and then Alex, just say your little thing again.
Speaker 1:Okay, so do you want to do? We've got to hit him with the socials, yeah let's do the socials.
Speaker 3:All right, we're nailing this, guys.
Speaker 1:Oh, we did pretty good all the way up until now. After you guys have checked out out flu, you let us know. Hit us up on our email at the boys at will you survive the podcastcom, or check out our profiles on instagram, tiktok and facebook also. Will you survive the podcast? You can check us out on twitter. Drop a line at uh a, eric W-Y-S, I know.
Speaker 3:Is that one just like a hard one for us to change?
Speaker 1:I just keep forgetting Twitter, because the only thing I ever do is I post the clips to there and I forget. That's the only one. That's not. Will you Survive the Podcast? But we'd love your emails. Hopefully we haven't lost one of our survivors because you guys keep telling him he doesn't exist.
Speaker 3:Oh, it turns out.
Speaker 1:Mobster Straubs is from the UK.
Speaker 3:Yeah, which I still don't fully believe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the accent's not real. You don't believe. He's from the UK.
Speaker 3:I mean when I read those emails.
Speaker 2:I don't hear it. You think he's AI Oi bruv.
Speaker 3:He's not typing right. There's not enough apostrophes in Replace of the T's.
Speaker 1:Alex, come on, namesake, you got to come back at us again. I need another email from you to prove that you guys are real out there.
Speaker 3:Alex, I need you to type bottle of water.
Speaker 1:Water bottle.
Speaker 3:Get water bottles.
Speaker 1:You monsters, you animals.
Speaker 3:Have you heard that meme where British people make fun of the names that we have for things? There was a funny meme that kind of went around a few years ago where people were like oh, you call this a light switch, we call this a flicky, flicky doodad.
Speaker 1:Well, before we devolve into absolute madness, we apologize. Another another social you guys got to go check out is our pinterest boards, where you can see our survival gear. We have uh recommendations for bug out bags. You can get all of your survival gear right there. It's all laid out for you. Check it out. Make some purchases, because we do get commissions on qualified purchases. That would help us out a lot and help us to keep making these videos for you. We love doing it anyway, but the money would help. I got to be honest. So, with that in mind, you guys go check out Flu one more time and let us know what you think and tell us if you would survive flu and, until next time, stay alive. Thank you.
